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As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

First link says NOTHING about the economy.

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Crossroads Generation, a new super PAC formed with the help of a handful of established GOP groups, is tapping into the economic frustrations of under-30 voters facing dim job prospects, crippling student loans or the prospect of having to move back home with their parents.

Starting Monday, the PAC is launching a $50,000 social media ad campaign targeting younger voters in eight swing states, including Ohio and Virginia. Their ultimate goal: woo younger Americans to the Republican side, including some who supported Obama in 2008.

Second link says "Obama bad" and NOTHING about how they're going to fix it.

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Mitt Romney on Wednesday issued a withering dissection of President Obama’s speech at the Democratic National Convention in Denver four years ago, delivering a point-by-point rebuttal of what he said were his opponent’s unfulfilled promises to revive the economy.

Standing in the shadow of Bank of America Stadium, where Mr. Obama will accept his party’s nomination in September, Mr. Romney said that “on the measures the president himself indicated would determine whether we’re making progress or not, he has failed.”

Now you want actual numbers? Keep changing those goalposts Bill, deflect, deflect, deflect.

Third link "Romney pledged to repeal Obama’s federal health care law and the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act." That's it.

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CHESTER TOWNSHIP – During a campaign stop in Delaware County on Monday, Republican Mitt Romney laid out reasons why he believes be would do a better job than President Barack Obama.

The former Massachusetts governor – and presumptive GOP nominee for president – said Obama has been “anti-job, anti-investment and anti-growth,” during his term in the White House.

Gee, not one word about abortions, gay marriage, or women

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Fourth link, Precisely the same as the second.

Different venue, therefore another discussion of the economy, and not gay marriage... Same with the last three links, all different campaign stops.

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Fifth link Ditto
Sixth link. Same old same old except this time, Romney is claiming that he "Feels the pain of the middle class"

In all seriousness, did you read this crap before you posted it?


So, what we have is the Republicans are saying "Obama bad, we good" and claiming they'll kill health care reform and deregulate Wall Street just like their handlers told them to.

As for a national Republican figure focusing on something besides the economy, How about the chairman of the RNC? Is that national enough for ya?

http://www.sba-list.org/suzy-b-blog/rnc-chairman-candidate-reince-priebus-expresses-pro-life-positions-sba-interview

Again, you wanted proof Romney was campaigning on the economy, and NOT on social issues, I proved it, now man up and admit you were wrong.

I never claimed Romney provided his plans, that's your fallacy.

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Lying with statistics for partisan purposes:

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

If you want to have discussions, offer responses, not dodges.

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You do know the DHS is new under Bush, and employs 180,000 people, right?

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Bill Maher laments the status quo under Obama and wonders what the right is screaming about.



The "left" certainty didn't get what it wanted--in fact, we got mainly what the right wanted.

Republicans have no ideas. Actually, neither do Democrats, leaving, as Maher proposes:
"Elect us--we're lame, but the other guys are nuts."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax15XRL1URQ&sns=fb

I have to confess--that largely sums up my own feelings.

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

First link says NOTHING about the economy.

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Crossroads Generation, a new super PAC formed with the help of a handful of established GOP groups, is tapping into the economic frustrations of under-30 voters facing dim job prospects, crippling student loans or the prospect of having to move back home with their parents.

Starting Monday, the PAC is launching a $50,000 social media ad campaign targeting younger voters in eight swing states, including Ohio and Virginia. Their ultimate goal: woo younger Americans to the Republican side, including some who supported Obama in 2008.

Second link says "Obama bad" and NOTHING about how they're going to fix it.

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CHARLOTTE, N.C. – Mitt Romney on Wednesday issued a withering dissection of President Obama’s speech at the Democratic National Convention in Denver four years ago, delivering a point-by-point rebuttal of what he said were his opponent’s unfulfilled promises to revive the economy.

Standing in the shadow of Bank of America Stadium, where Mr. Obama will accept his party’s nomination in September, Mr. Romney said that “on the measures the president himself indicated would determine whether we’re making progress or not, he has failed.”

Now you want actual numbers? Keep changing those goalposts Bill, deflect, deflect, deflect.

Third link "Romney pledged to repeal Obama’s federal health care law and the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act." That's it.

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CHESTER TOWNSHIP – During a campaign stop in Delaware County on Monday, Republican Mitt Romney laid out reasons why he believes be would do a better job than President Barack Obama.

The former Massachusetts governor – and presumptive GOP nominee for president – said Obama has been “anti-job, anti-investment and anti-growth,” during his term in the White House.

Gee, not one word about abortions, gay marriage, or women

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Fourth link, Precisely the same as the second.

Different venue, therefore another discussion of the economy, and not gay marriage... Same with the last three links, all different campaign stops.

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Fifth link Ditto
Sixth link. Same old same old except this time, Romney is claiming that he "Feels the pain of the middle class"

In all seriousness, did you read this crap before you posted it?


So, what we have is the Republicans are saying "Obama bad, we good" and claiming they'll kill health care reform and deregulate Wall Street just like their handlers told them to.

As for a national Republican figure focusing on something besides the economy, How about the chairman of the RNC? Is that national enough for ya?

http://www.sba-list.org/suzy-b-blog/rnc-chairman-candidate-reince-priebus-expresses-pro-life-positions-sba-interview

Again, you wanted proof Romney was campaigning on the economy, and NOT on social issues, I proved it, now man up and admit you were wrong.

I never claimed Romney provided his plans, that's your fallacy.

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Go back and read post 26 again. I said "Show us where the Right is pushing the economy more than abortion, birth control and gay marriage. "

I didnt mention Romney. Who is moving goal posts?



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Kinkier than a cheap garden hose.

Whoever said "Religion is the opiate of the masses" never heard Right Wing talk radio.

Don't blame me, I voted for Gary Johnson.

(in reply to subrob1967)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


Go back and read post 26 again. I said "Show us where the Right is pushing the economy more than abortion, birth control and gay marriage. "

I didnt mention Romney. Who is moving goal posts?

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


Go back and read post 26 again. I said "Show us where the Right is pushing the economy more than abortion, birth control and gay marriage. "

I didnt mention Romney. Who is moving goal posts?

"We're lame, but the other guys are nuts" campaign slogan

Is this not the title of the thread?
Isn't Romney the GOP Presidential nominee?

Sorry Bill, I didn't move the goal posts,I addressed what the GOP Presidential candidate was campaigning on, and it ain't the bullshit war on women. What GOP state legislatures do has no bearing on this thread, and was thrown out there to distract people from the real issue of the campaign...

To quote James Carville, "It's the economy, stupid!"

Romney knows it, Obama knows it and is trying to avoid it, and now you know it too.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


Go back and read post 26 again. I said "Show us where the Right is pushing the economy more than abortion, birth control and gay marriage. "

I didnt mention Romney. Who is moving goal posts?

"We're lame, but the other guys are nuts" campaign slogan

Is this not the title of the thread?
Isn't Romney the GOP Presidential nominee?

Sorry Bill, I didn't move the goal posts,I addressed what the GOP Presidential candidate was campaigning on, and it ain't the bullshit war on women. What GOP state legislatures do has no bearing on this thread, and was thrown out there to distract people from the real issue of the campaign...

To quote James Carville, "It's the economy, stupid!"

Romney knows it, Obama knows it and is trying to avoid it, and now you know it too.

I've been saying it for a year but only 2 GOP candidates have mentioned it in any depth.

Let me explain slowly what "Running based on the economy" means.

It does NOT mean saying "the economy is bad, vote for me." which is what Mitt is doing.

Only Ron Paul (who I voted for in the primary) and Herman Cain (who I supported early on before he got wierd on us) have run on the economy.

Running on the economy has 2 parts.

1. Identify the problem. Everyone has done that.

2. Explain their plan to fix it. Only Paul and Cain had a plan. (maybe not so good but at least they had a damn plan)

Everyone else mentioned some vague tax breaks or went Morality on us.

Romney's latest statement from this morning is "I give Obama an F in everything".
Know what he didn't do? he didn't say fuckall about "Here is what I'll do different" except to say he'll give a small tax break to employers who hire someone.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57444955/romney-gives-obama-an-f-across-the-board/?tag=re1.channel

I'm a business owner. A $2000 tax break isn't going to convince me to hire someone.

Remember the old joke told by conservatives early in the primaries.

A conservative, a moderate, a liberal and a mormon walk into a bar. The barkeep says "What'll ya have Mr romney?""

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Isn't Romney the GOP Presidential nominee?