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I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Creato... - 5/27/2012 10:31:56 PM   
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THE JOB UNCREATORS???? Especially when they hail DIRECTLY from their own party and have been the stick with which to bludgeon people that have created more sustainable jobs than these jokers can count to.

Take for instance the curious case of Curt Schilling ... Ironic name really cause that's basically homophone for what he has been doing for the GOP since he was fortunate enough to pitch in a series of games that made baseball history (course a lot of his fame comes of a romantic bloody sock episode and the fact that he upstaged the great Pedro Martinez .. the truth is, the credit for that amazing ALCS Series should go to the basemen, outfielders and hitting staff of the Boston Red Sox).

The Fans of the Red Sox Nation, were happy to regale a braves performance of course. Curt was much lauded for what he did contribute. But then he turned on the fans and New Englanders in general by appearing with George Walker Bush in New Hampshire bad mouthing John Kerry and democrats in general and really not knowing a fuckload of ANYTHING about politics... but he had a bloody sock and they used it to try and destroy Kerry in NH, MA, RI, ME, CT, and even in NY. It was the ultimate lead balloon endorsement. But that's not the point it was a divisive tactic and it flew in the face of the image and culture the Red Sox had faithfully crafted for decades with their fans. And Schilling crossed a line with most New Englanders in those days after OUR victory. The Sox themselves were pretty pissed as well. It was absolutely Co-opting a moment huge importance to us that transcended ANYTHING else.

So fast forward to several years later. Deval Patrick was now governor and when Schilling set himself up in the software business (namely gaming software) in a state where software is a major area of expertise. He presented the Governor's economic development commission team with with a total VAPORWARE business plan and basically went over their heads to public opinion to try and force the heavy buy-in the state would have to kick in and all the tax breaks to "Green Monster Games" they were rejected big time (the prick was STILL Thieving from the Sox by stealing the name of Fenway's most legendary feature ... lying about what the name meant whenever he was asked... guess the cheap shit was worried about a trademark suit). He renames the company after his Red Sox Jersey number and starts the hard sell of his yet to exist product again. But ...You can't run a scam on a state having NO PRODUCT, and having no clue about an industry that something on the order or 25% of the state very clearly DOES.

So what's Schilling do? Well instead of taking up a business investment more suited to his intellect and life experience, like a CAR DEALERSHIP for instance, he makes some big hires and starts hype about going after World of Warcraft's market share and a game called Everquest ... still, nobody takes the bait.

However, in 2010, he takes his con-game to lame duck governor Donald Carcieri who was literally DESPERATE to make some positive headlines after his attempted 12 day furlough state workers blew up in his face. And after a bunch of phony dog and pony shows for the EDC in RI, and even some glad handing from his old pal Dubyah, the state of RI bites on the hook to the tune of a $75m.

And from here, well 38 Studios ALLEGEDLY finally was preparing to release it's first two products 'sometime later this year' ... REALLY?!?! Can you IMAGINE if someone who'd been given BAIL-IN by a state government having taken over 7 years to bring a piece of SOFTWARE to market, being a democrat, and getting away with that. In fact, can fathom ANY business playing VAPORWARE for that long? SHIT MAN, EVEN MICROSOFT wouldn't go there.

So three weeks ago, rumors start up, first in the business that 38 Studios has been spending money like drunken sailors and is about to announce they can't make the loan payment against what the State of RI guaranteed on their behalf... AND THEY MAY NOT EVEN MAKE PAYROLL.
So naturally the state started asking questions and Schilling started a back current of finger pointing at the current governor (course, the public didn't really hear any of that beyond murmuring and rumors being spread by Schilling's talk-radio cronies).

Now in the last 10 days the shit really hit the fan. First Schilling blows his loan payment deadline REQUIRING the state to step in to review the circumstances and determine what, if anything they actually needed to do. What does republican and celebrity advocate of smaller government, and critic of "Obama's Bailouts" as for? Well of course A BAILOUT.... Why not? He got a BAIL-IN, might as well get a BAIL-OUT. Meanwhile, there were also stories kicking around about multimillion dollar personal loans he recently took against his equity that do not appear to have gone back into the company. Boy, when this guy turns totally bullshit in regard to the positions he takes publicly, he goes ALL THE WAY.

Anyway, he got a reprieve from the governor and within days he was implicating Linc Chaffee with his woes, first for not buying them the 6 month breather they were asking for behind closed doors and then for making disclosures to the public that were inappropriate... Hahahahahaha Schilling went and told his employees, whom he apparently convinced that if they lost their jobs, it wouldn't be because the company sucked and they produced no product that brought in REVENUE, but that it is a Governor's fault for keeping the people that voted him into office IN THE LOOP.
Then Schilling's next move was to write the Servicers of his loan 1.1 million dollar RUBBER CHECK... Then he announced being unable to make payroll and he then laid off in their entirety a few days after.

So now, the taxpayers of the State of RI are stuck with the damages, which with the business's total debt, penalties, unpaid interest, etc will easily reach $112 mil and will see no assets out of this company period, unless right wing bullshit suddenly becomes a commodity.

Breaking News
Chafee: 38 Studios back in default; seeking forensic audit
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May 25, 2012 5:34 pm
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PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- 38 Studios is back in default on its $75-million loan because it didn't give the state advance notice it was laying off its whole staff Thursday, Governor Chafee said at a Friday-afternoon news conference.

Chafee said Curt Schilling's videogame company has 30 days to cure the default.and become eligible for millions of dollars in tax credits it wants. He said he is doing everything he can to help the company find outside investors, but is "very pessimistic."

Chaee said he wants a forensic audit of the company. He said he is confident its records are secure, but wouldn't say why he's confident.

The governor said he didn't know at the time that Keith Stokes, his former economic-development director, had signed an agreement to let IBM submit oral reports monitoring the company's status, rather than the written reports originally required.

"I did not know, and I assume the [Economic Development Corporation] board did not know," Chafee said.

Chafee chairs the board.

-- reports from Kate Bramson, Journal staff writer
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/05/chafee-38-studi-2.html

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/27/2012 11:26:03 PM   
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Curt must have really messed up his finances. The game he released in Feb. has sold well, projections are over 300k physical copies.

I have a hard time being unhappy with the guy since he saved a big chunk of Avalon Hill's portfolio from going out of print.

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/27/2012 11:59:53 PM   
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Curt must have really messed up his finances. The game he released in Feb. has sold well, projections are over 300k physical copies.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 12:06:34 AM   
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I have a hard time being unhappy with the guy since he saved a big chunk of Avalon Hill's portfolio from going out of print.


Dandy, you should definitely hop on some of the message spaces Rhode Islanders frequent and tell them what a great guy and how he saved some old throw away shit and all it cost was the the livelihoods of 400+ people. They'll no doubt appreciate that.
The real thing to take away from this is obvious.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 3:43:47 AM   
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Curt must have really messed up his finances. The game he released in Feb. has sold well, projections are over 300k physical copies.

I have a hard time being unhappy with the guy since he saved a big chunk of Avalon Hill's portfolio from going out of print.

What? Avalon Hill? Are they still around after all these years? I played AH games back in the 80's, and they were cheap low-end products even then - long outdated.

Strolling down Memory Lane is all fine and good, but how can anyone turn a blind eye to a political hustle which takes down $75M plus of taxpayers' money? Some people need to go to jail there in RI.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 3:51:16 AM   
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Are you sure about that?
Back in the '80s the AH edition of Runequest was about the most expensive RPG you could buy. The deluxe box set went for a lot more than all three of the core AD&D hardbacks put together, iirc.

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 5:16:51 AM   
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Curt must have really messed up his finances. The game he released in Feb. has sold well, projections are over 300k physical copies.



But if it took seven years to produce a product... assume that each employee costs $100K, wages/salary plus benefits. That's $700K per employee over seven years. Wiki states that they have 309 employees. So that's about $30 million spent. They'd have to sell the game for $100 a pop just to break even, ignoring the time value of money.

Let's face it - any software company that spends years to get a product to market is out of control. If their payroll is 300+ employees, there's no way they could survive in the private sector. They're essentially a public works program.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 6:28:08 AM   
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Wiki states that they have 309 employees. So that's about $30 million spent. They'd have to sell the game for $100 a pop just to break even, ignoring the time value of money.


The nice the lady on my facebook page is saying 389 in total claims came to her office as of last friday. She's been a director at RI Dept Of Employment Training for like 5 Governors. She had the greatest tits in high school. they were the tit equivalent to Lucy's ass. There are also 60 contractors servicing the company 1/2 of whom are described as small enough to be on the verge of going out of business.
I believe her over wiki any day. Wiki also still has that BULLSHIT story about "Green Monster Games" being "named after someone from outside of the country who's never heard of the Red Sox"... they need to bring that article up to date or make it reflect the totality of reality.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 6:31:46 AM   
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They're essentially a public works program.



With so many taxplayers... Quite the game, wouldn't you say?


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 6:45:36 AM   
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They're essentially a public works program.



With so many taxplayers... Quite the game, wouldn't you say?


Right wing corporate welfare at it's finest.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 10:21:52 AM   
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But if it took seven years to produce a product... assume that each employee costs $100K, wages/salary plus benefits. That's $700K per employee over seven years. Wiki states that they have 309 employees. So that's about $30 million spent. They'd have to sell the game for $100 a pop just to break even, ignoring the time value of money.


That's right, under a lame duck republican governor gave a real prick of a right wing has-been pro athlete/bully pulpit spokesman the sweet heart deal of the century. I know, it's hard to believe good republicans would participate in corporate welfare on that scale, yet there it is Welfare that would embarrass any honest poor person to accept.


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Let's face it - any software company that spends years to get a product to market is out of control. If their payroll is 300+ employees, there's no way they could survive in the private sector. They're essentially a public works program.


And just so we're clear... no freaking gaming company sees anywhere NEAR retail for their product, never mind $100 One of the children's game divisions of EA is down the highway three exits and I have neighbors who work there. The lady in my son's Boy Scout troop who works in their development unit says it probably $10 - $20 for the hottest games on the market.

But why worry, Mitt Romney's Sports Figure Endorsement has saved that glorified Atari shit Ken worships.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 11:09:28 AM   
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Hi there!

My name is Joe Gubbermint!

I will borrow money and create jobs for you!

It will create a deficit that will enslave your children deeper as (bond slaves) every year but thats ok aint it?

Bond Slavery is legal when the gubafia does it isnt it?




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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 12:41:38 PM   
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Are you sure about that?
Back in the '80s the AH edition of Runequest was about the most expensive RPG you could buy. The deluxe box set went for a lot more than all three of the core AD&D hardbacks put together, iirc.

I distinctly remember not buying it because of the high price.

BTW Schilling is credited with keeping both Panzerblitz and Advanced Squad Leader in print. And its a seperate company from his software business.

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/28/2012 7:19:48 PM   
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Hi there!

My name is Joe Gubbermint!

I will borrow money and create jobs for you!

It will create a deficit that will enslave your children deeper as (bond slaves) every year but thats ok aint it?

Bond Slavery is legal when the gubafia does it isnt it?


Well to Linc Chaffee's credit, he is taking the political hit and saying "NO MORE" to this bullshit.

YOU in particular might find the wiki on Linc an interesting read.



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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/29/2012 6:27:04 AM   
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Are you sure about that?
Back in the '80s the AH edition of Runequest was about the most expensive RPG you could buy. The deluxe box set went for a lot more than all three of the core AD&D hardbacks put together, iirc.

I distinctly remember not buying it because of the high price.

I'm very surprised that any bugger did buy it, given that.
It was repackaged by Games Workshop for the UK market a few years later, and was quite a bit cheaper, but I'd imagine that version didn't make it across the Atlantic. The really bizarre thing about the AH/third edition Runequest was that it dumped all of the stuff about setting. I'd always assumed that Runequest was about Glorantha first and a rather good set of gaming rules second, but obviously AH didn't agree. Idiots.

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Are you sure about that?
Back in the '80s the AH edition of Runequest was about the most expensive RPG you could buy. The deluxe box set went for a lot more than all three of the core AD&D hardbacks put together, iirc.

I distinctly remember not buying it because of the high price.

I'm very surprised that any bugger did buy it, given that.
It was repackaged by Games Workshop for the UK market a few years later, and was quite a bit cheaper, but I'd imagine that version didn't make it across the Atlantic. The really bizarre thing about the AH/third edition Runequest was that it dumped all of the stuff about setting. I'd always assumed that Runequest was about Glorantha first and a rather good set of gaming rules second, but obviously AH didn't agree. Idiots.

AH never really "got" RPG's. They were always much more interested in and capable at making boardgames.


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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/29/2012 8:11:51 AM   
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It showed in that case, I think.

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/29/2012 11:43:55 PM   
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Schilling has been for the past 24 hours trying to infer that the state's disclosures are to blame with regard to a collapsed negotiation for a new round of financing for a third game they now claim they had in the works.
He's also trying to get a tax credit normally reserved for Movie Makers fiklming on location in RI


RI gov: Schilling's wrong to blame woes on state

By DAVID KLEPPER, Associated Press – 7 hours ago

PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — Rhode Island Gov. Lincoln Chafee on Tuesday dismissed Curt Schilling's accusations that his remarks about the former Red Sox pitcher's video game company hurt its financial position.

Chafee's administration also disputed Schilling's assertion that the state reneged on film tax credits promised to 38 Studios. Chafee said he has worked since he was elected to assist the company and protect the state's investment in it.

"Obviously I want to see it succeed," Chafee told reporters Tuesday. "But I have to be honest in my dealings with the taxpayers and tell them what's going on."

In his first public remarks on the company's problems, Schilling told The Providence Journal for Tuesday's editions that Chafee's recent comments that the state was trying to keep his company solvent were "devastating." He said that shortly after those remarks, a video-game publisher pulled out of a $35 million deal to finance a new game.

"The governor is not operating in the best interest of the company by any stretch, or the taxpayers, or the state," Schilling told the newspaper. "We're trying to save this company and we're working 24/7. The public commentary has been as big a piece of what's happening to us as anything out there."

Chafee said any potential investors weren't likely to be scared away by his comments. "Any time there's a chance to make money the investors will be around," he said.

Schilling also said the state promised and did not deliver film tax credits for 38 Studios and refused to allow the company to defer a $1.1 million payment to the Economic Development Corp., forcing it to miss payroll on May 15.

Rhode Island Tax Administrator David Sullivan said 38 Studios' request is still under review and that the company was never promised tax credits.

A message left for Schilling was not immediately returned Tuesday.

38 Studios, which was lured to Rhode Island from Massachusetts in 2010 with a $75 million loan guarantee from the state's Economic Development Corp., laid off its entire workforce last week, including about 300 employees in Providence and more in Maryland. The state would likely be responsible for some of 38 Studios' debts should it collapse.

Chafee said Tuesday that EDC Board member Lynn Singleton has resigned from the board, becoming the second board member to step down since questions arose about 38 Studios' health arose. Board Vice Chairwoman Helena Foulkes and EDC Executive Director Keith Stokes — a vigorous backer of the guarantee — have already resigned.

The firm's financial troubles came to light this month when it defaulted on a $1.1 million payment to the EDC that was due May 1. The company later paid — but only after first delivering a check that it acknowledged soon after would not clear.

Now the company is again violating its loan agreement with the state, Chafee said. Under federal law, employers who have at least 100 employees and plan to shed at least 50 jobs are required to give a 60-day notice to workers and state unemployment officials.

Bill Thomas, the 38 Studios president, told The Journal that the state was notified of the layoffs on May 25 because the company "wanted our employees to hear it from us first."

The 45-year-old Schilling said he stands to lose all the money he saved while playing baseball, and rejected criticism that he is seeking a public handout.

"I have done whatever I can do to create jobs and create a successful business, with my own income," he said. "Fifty million dollars, everything I've ever saved, has been put back into the economy. The $49 million from Rhode Island has been put back in the economy. I've never taken a penny and I've done nothing but create jobs and create economy. And so how does that translate into welfare baby? I've tried to do right by people."

Chafee, an independent, has said he wants to help the company succeed, but opposes allowing 38 Studios to receive film tax credits after receiving so much in state bond proceeds.

Jonathan Savage, a business lawyer who is representing Chafee, said the state is willing to give up its first position to 38 Studios' assets if that will help attract a private investor.

Schilling said that might help, and he's hoping the company is not finished.

"I pray that it's not," he said. "We're doing everything we can do to make that not be the case."

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RE: I noticed a lot of talk about the so-called 'Job Cr... - 5/31/2012 11:16:36 PM   
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I'm just including this one because the tat artist is a a guy I actually know and he did Schilling's Green Monster Tat.

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