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ResidentSadist -> RE: -=Are Amercians prudes or are Mexicans amoral sluts?=- (5/30/2012 3:44:20 PM)
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
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Absolutely, in a case of a life expectancy of 40, but Mexico's life expectancy of 76.2 and the US's of 78.2 does not account for the discrepancy.
I know, the emphasis was on perspective. That's why I said it's not as relevant nowadays. [;)]
(I did read the stats before posting their links, yanno.)
I simply wanted to offer up that people need to stop and look at things from more than one angle before laying down a moral bitchslap. This is especially true when you consider that there is no such thing as a universal morality.
Hence my point about what De Sade said, morals are geographical.
Are morals like consent, cannibalism, rape etc. supposed to be core human values? If they can change so radically from one different geographical location to another . . . is their really a core human morality? I suspect not. I think morals are a result of your environment, not some manifestation of our universal humanity.
If you lived in a place and time where everyone in your environment conquered and enslaved (raped) enemies' women, killed and ate their men and the rule of thumb was if she bleeds she breeds . . . without modern social influences, it would probably seem quite moral and natural.
Perhaps for SOME people. I think it depends on several factors. Intelligence, abiilty to think outside the box, a lesser need to fit in with the status quo......and probably a few I've not thought of.
I know more than one person that developed a very different set of morals and values than the enviroment and people they were raised in and around.
Nice reply - I agree, but don't feel it applies to the majority that derive moral constructs from social environments. There are many sources of information, even in today's modern society, that allow a strong intellect or personality to arrive at a different set of morals than the social norm (status quo). However, that information still comes from your environment and you arrive at a different set of morals because of your interpretation of it.
My immediate family, father and mother were very intellectual and live an alt lifestyle. They promoted my creative thinking and independent self image. My Armenian relatives and their patriarchal family structures were part of my environment that shaped my impression of masculinity and manhood. Both my parents and relatives were the environmental fodder that reinforced the information I got from reading about philosophy, relationships etc. Collectively, those authors and my family are what shaped my morals that do not follow the status quo.
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