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Iamsemisweet -> The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 8:30:36 AM)

Former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.) lashed out at members of his party on Sunday, slamming them for their unwillingness to compromise on proposed tax increases.

In his characteristically colorful style, Simpson told CNN's Fareed Zakaria that Republicans' rigid opposition to new tax revenues has hampered productivity and diminished the chances of reaching an agreement with Democrats on debt reduction.

"You can’t cut spending your way out of this hole," Simpson, who was appointed as co-chair of President Obama's Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform in 2010, said. "You can’t grow your way out of this hole, and you can’t tax your way out of this hole. So put that in your pipe and smoke it, we tell these people. This is madness."

Simpson continued: "If you want to be a purist, go somewhere on a mountaintop and praise the east or something. But if you want to be in politics, you learn to compromise. And you learn to compromise on the issue without compromising yourself. Show me a guy who won’t compromise and I’ll show you a guy with rock for brains."

The former senator, along with debt commission co-chair Erskine Bowles, developed a plan in 2010 for bringing down the top tax rate and lowering the deficit by repealing a number of tax cuts and credits. The initial plan, commonly known as Simpson-Bowles, was mostly ignored by lawmakers. A bipartisan budget modeled after their report was rejected by the House earlier this year.

During the interview Sunday, he expressed frustration with his party's focus on social issues, as well as the ability of outspoken figures like Americans for Tax Reform head Grover Norquist to drive the conversation.

"I guess I'm known as a RINO now, which means a Republican in name only, because, I guess, of social views, perhaps, or common sense would be another one, which seems to escape members of our party," Simpson said. "For heaven’s sake, you have Grover Norquist wandering the earth in his white robes saying that if you raise taxes one penny, he’ll defeat you. He can’t murder you. He can’t burn your house. The only thing he can do to you, as an elected official, is defeat you for reelection. And if that means more to you than your country when we need patriots to come out in a situation when we’re in extremity, you shouldn’t even be in Congress."




Iamsemisweet -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 8:34:50 AM)

Makes me long for the good old days when congressman seemed to realize that just because you disagreed with them on policies and legislation didn't mean you loved this country any less.




FirmhandKY -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 2:54:54 PM)

He's always been known as a RINO, sweet. Sorry.

Firm




Musicmystery -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 3:46:09 PM)

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Owner59 -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 4:17:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

He's always been known as a RINO, sweet. Sorry.

Firm


"Alan Simpson Unleashes Outrageous Attack on California Alliance Seniors"

http://www.retiredamericans.org/newsroom/view/2012-05-alan-simpson-unleashes-outrageous-attack-on-californ

Calls them the "greediest generation".......

Fuck`n A......call`n the WWII generation......the greediest generation.....What a douche bag.....

So what would that make someone, who was to right of Simpson?






subrob1967 -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 4:53:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Owner59
So what would that make someone, who was to right of Simpson?



A blue dog Democrat

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In 2001, Simpson became Honorary Chairman of the Republican Unity Coalition (RUC), a gay/straight alliance within the Republican Party. In this capacity, Simpson personally recruited President Gerald R. Ford to serve on the RUC's Advisory Board.

In 2002, Simpson was involved in the Republican gubernatorial primary on behalf of former Democrat Eli Bebout of Riverton. Simpson criticized Bebout's principal challengers Raymond Breedlove Hunkins of Wheatland, and Bill Sniffen of Lander in Fremont County. Bebout defeated the two but then lost the general election to the Democratic nominee David Duane "Dave" Freudenthal, a former United States Attorney appointed by President Bill Clinton.

Simpson is an Honorary Board Member of the humanitarian organization Wings of Hope.[7]

In 2006, Simpson was one of ten member (five Democratic and five Republican) contributors to the Iraq Study Group Report.

Simpson was appointed in 2010 to co-chair President Barack Obama's National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform with co-chair Erskine Bowles.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_K._Simpson

Now why in the world would Obama appoint a right wing extremist to his pet committee? Be honest for once, will ya?




DomKen -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 5:11:48 PM)

Simpson is what used to be the mainstream of the GOP. A fiscal conservative who was moderate on social issues. His bona fides include a 10 year stint as Republican whip in the Senate, for those who don't know the whip is the leadership position that gets the other republican senators to vote the way the republican leadership wants.

Obama appointed a retired republican leader with strong fiscal conservative credentials to chair the Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform so it's conclusions would have credibility on the right sid of the aisle. It is simply more proof of how radicalized the GOP has become that Simpson is attacked for being liberal.




GotSteel -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 5:58:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DomKen
Simpson is what used to be the mainstream of the GOP. A fiscal conservative who was moderate on social issues.


Sounds like the sort of Republicans we in NH used to vote for.




SternSkipper -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 8:06:33 PM)

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Hahahaha

Exactly like Bob Dole was "always a RINO"... Like about half the Party before Gingrich.
Hell, Gingrich seems like a RINO compared to the current cartload of assholes.





SternSkipper -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/28/2012 8:09:35 PM)

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_K._Simpson

Now why in the world would Obama appoint a right wing extremist to his pet committee? Be honest for once, will ya?


Man Owner, these guys just have no more sense of loyalty or belief in those they've elected in the past anymore. When it gets like that, the end is near... they just can't smell that nursing home smell of death cause it's coming from them.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 6:26:01 AM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

He's always been known as a RINO, sweet. Sorry.

Firm

I hardly would have thought of the man who referred to Social Security as " the cow with 310 million teats" as a RINO, but I guess that goes to show you how bizarre the GOP has become.




DarkSteven -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 6:27:11 AM)

A RINO has come to mean any Republican who doesn't kick a Dem in the nuts every day.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 6:35:20 AM)

Or who doesn't think their sole job as an elected official is to insure Obama doesn't get re elected.
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

A RINO has come to mean any Republican who doesn't kick a Dem in the nuts every day.





Owner59 -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 7:31:33 AM)

 
It`s term used by the cry-baby section of the GOP for other cons that aren`t extreme enough......usually by loudmouths who never won an election.....republican or otherwise.

How else does one get to a place where they think they define what republicans are,who`s a republican and who isn`t without arrogance,small-mindedness and ignorance to the size and scope of  American politics?

It`s the lunatic fringe GOP`s version of "the big tent".[:D]




GotSteel -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 2:17:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Owner59
It`s term used by the cry-baby section of the GOP for other cons that aren`t extreme enough......usually by loudmouths who never won an election.....republican or otherwise.


I thought it was used by those who think the GOP's sole job is to break the government.




FirmhandKY -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 3:47:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Or who doesn't think their sole job as an elected official is to insure Obama doesn't get re elected.
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

A RINO has come to mean any Republican who doesn't kick a Dem in the nuts every day.




You mean ... that's it's the Republican Party's patriotic duty to help in the re-election of the opposing parties candidates?

Geez, I forgot all about democratic centralism! [8|]

Firm




Musicmystery -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 7:13:53 PM)

The word "sole" is really key here, Firm.




Hillwilliam -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 7:16:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Or who doesn't think their sole job as an elected official is to insure Obama doesn't get re elected.
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

A RINO has come to mean any Republican who doesn't kick a Dem in the nuts every day.




You mean ... that's it's the Republican Party's patriotic duty to help in the re-election of the opposing parties candidates?

Geez, I forgot all about democratic centralism! [8|]

Firm


I thought it was the Republican party's patriotic duty to help this great country thru recovery, not to assist in destroying it if "Those guys" are in charge.

ETA, you could say the same damn thing about the hard core lefty Dems.




dcnovice -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 7:17:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Excellent, Muse! I love it. [:)]




Iamsemisweet -> RE: The newest RINO: Alan Simpson? (5/29/2012 8:15:59 PM)

Yes Firm, call me crazy, but I don't think Congress' SOLE purpose is to fuck the other party.
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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Or who doesn't think their sole job as an elected official is to insure Obama doesn't get re elected.
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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

A RINO has come to mean any Republican who doesn't kick a Dem in the nuts every day.




You mean ... that's it's the Republican Party's patriotic duty to help in the re-election of the opposing parties candidates?

Geez, I forgot all about democratic centralism! [8|]

Firm






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