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mummyman321 -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (5/31/2012 3:43:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I really don't know if it elevates testosterone. There are documented scientific studies that endorphins elevate due to exercise. Our minds and our bodies really are designed to be pushed. If it can apply to runners, it can apply to BDSM.


Light to moderate exercise does boost a man's testosterone level. Lack of exercise will decrease testosterone levels in a man. At the same time if the man is doing intensive weight or endurance training this will decrease the testosterone in the body. A short article by D. Richard Cohen desribes this better http://www.thehormoneshop.com/maintainingtestosterone.htm

One of the questions I mentioned a little later was why does a BDSM provide a much longer lasting "High" feeling versus say just plain exercise? Testorterone also sharply rises in men within about 10 minutes of sexual stimulation. One of the things I was wondering is if Testosterone mixing with the other chemicals in the body like adrenaline, endorphins and enkephalin creates a super cocktail in the body that has a much longer lasting effect? This is just a plain wild thought on my part but it does make me wonder.



CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (5/31/2012 1:39:19 PM)

mummyman3,

Thank you for starting this thread...it's been a great read. It's a shame I need to go offline for a while cuz I want to go to that clicky you posted about testosterone.

"I'll be back." [:D]



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (5/31/2012 9:43:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mummyman321
Rage Against the Machine
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I am also curious for the Dom(mes) out there. Do you utilize BDSM to work out you normal day to day frustrations when they come to a head? Do you find yourself more aggressive than normal when you notice that pent up rage?


Yes, I tend to find myself more aggressive than normal. Mentally I'm kicked up on higher gear. I'm become more aggressive verbally and physically. Even my sense of humor becomes a little more sarcastic, dark and sadistic in tones.

Yes, I have utilized BDSM, good crazy Sex, Kink or whatever to release these frustrations. I also utilize other things as well. Playing Music helps a lot too. Even going for walks, a visit to my favorite spots. I love the relaxing peace of being at a Beach, along a River or anywhere that there's water. I'm an Aquarius after all. I'll even take extremely long hot baths, or get lost in a hot tube (for a few hours).

There are times, when I feeling tense where I just want to be left alone. Just with me, myself and I to contend with. Other times, it's very much the opposite, I find myself basking in distractions of human interaction.

Yes, I'm more Amped up and more aggressive than normal... until I do something that sends me down the path of unwinding.




Kana -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/1/2012 7:44:26 AM)

I never play when angry.
Irritated yes. Even if I'm a little miffed. But angry? Angry means I'm struggling for self control, that I'm so pissed I'm about to lose it...and that's not a god spot to play in. Not good for me. no good for her, certainly unsafe for her.
So I don't do it.
No biggeee. I'm a dom. I control my emotions. Not to mention that I control my dick, it doesn't control me.
I play on my terms, when I am ready, when the head space is good.
When I'm pissed I look for a Mosh Pit.
Now there's a place to leave your aggressions!



MariaB -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/1/2012 1:59:25 PM)

With me its never a knee jerk reaction. When I hit, thump, slap or whip someone its always considered prior to being administered.



ResidentSadist -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/1/2012 8:41:48 PM)

"I am also curious for the Dom(mes) out there. Do you utilize BDSM to work out you normal day to day frustrations when they come to a head? Do you find yourself more aggressive than normal when you notice that pent up rage?"

Normal day to day frustrations, yes. My slave greets me naked kneeling at the door, she kisses my feet and tells me something nice like why she is happy I own her. I set down my attache and shrug off the stress of the work day and I pet her, telling her something she has done recently that pleases me (as reinforcement) and why I am glad I own her. We can spend 5 minutes or so focusing on each other, reinforcing our relationship, it can end with a kiss, sex, a beating or wherever the mood takes it.

One day, I had abnormal frustration. Not your day to day stuff. I lost a huge legal battle with the government. I really thought I was going to win after 2 years fighting (I was naive). Losing cost me an amount of money too large to mention on the internet and have anyone believe what I say. Lets just say it was enough to make me very frustrated and angry. Actually, I was mad as hell.

I went home and announced that something happened at work that made me very frustrated and angry . . . she asked if beating her would make me feel better (bless her heart). I told her that wasn't a good idea and that I was never a "kick the dog in anger type of person". However, in the inverse, I told her I wanted her the highest protocol she could, give me a Master's bath, a massage, a drink and tender her sexual services while I smoked a cigar. I paddled her ass and commanded her every move until I found my release.

Yes, I was was much more demanding and aggressive than normal.

Yes, I used BDSM to seek the comforts of a king and relieve my frustrations.

Yes, using BDSM made me feel much better. I may have taken a beating at work but I was king of my castle and enjoyed creature comforts my legal opponents could only dream of. In the aftermath while looking down at her as she knelt on the floor hugging my leg, I saw the look of adoration on her face, a tear in her eye from the struggle, pain and sacrifice she had just undergone and I thought to myself, this is beyond putting a value on it. Whatever the cost of the day, no matter how many battles I lose, no matter how much money the battles cost, what I have is priceless and mine to keep. I let her know how I felt and told her she was a "good girl".



Whenready -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/2/2012 12:30:17 AM)

When stressed, I climb at my local bouldering wall.

A friend calls it vertical yoga. That's going a bit far, but I see what he means. If I try to think of whatever it is that's bugging me, I fall off. I focus on this hand on that hold. After a while, the stress bleeds off, and I've had a good workout.

If I'm stressed, and not fully in control of myself, why would I think it was wise to involve someone else at that point?



kitkat105 -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/2/2012 1:24:29 AM)

I think it (BDSM or sadomasochism) can be cathartic but agree with everyone who has said that if someone is feeling negative emotions, I think both parties would have to be very careful that someone doesn't get hurt (physically or emotionally).

With that said, I have been feeling sad and had a play session and felt pretty awesome afterwards (all those neurotransmitters & hormones buzzing).



mummyman321 -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/2/2012 7:41:20 AM)

For me, I think I can very effectively channel my emotions to be let out in a safe manner whether that be stress, frustration or anger. Being on the sub side I think is very benificial for this. I can channel my emotions into physical struggle. If I am bound pretty good, I can struggle with all my strength. I can do that safetly without fear that I might hurt my Domme with a sudden movement. So the bondage aspect really helps me with this.



MalcolmNathaniel -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/3/2012 1:25:23 AM)

A little clarification.

I can certainly see how. for a submissive, it can be healthy.

But dominants have to play by different rules. Resident Sadist brings up a valid point: The B&D and D&S components can certainly relive stress and reduce anger. I do, however, stand by my statement that the S&M portion of BDSM should be absolutely be avoided during those times.

For a Dominant, beating a sub just because you want to beat someone is Bad and Wrong. Beating a slave because you want to beat her is Good and Right.

That's my $0.02.



KnightofMists -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/3/2012 7:38:09 AM)

To me is it not a question of the emotions I feel that is the issue. It is a question to the control and focus I have of myself regardless of the emotions I feel going into play. One can be excessively happy and feel they can do no wrong and still do some dumb shit no less than one under great stress or anger can do dumb shit.

I play when I want to play... my motivations are often different... as my emotions are often different. But the common thread is I control me... not my emotions! I don't play unless I feel in control of my actions. I need to be in a place to where I can zone and focus into the scene. FEELING extreme emotions be it positive or negative tend to distrub my focus in the beginning and deter my desire to play. Interestly... when I decide to play... my focus sharpens and my emotions begin to dull. It is not without alittle irony that many see my play and note the intense emotion and passion when I play. For myself, I don't really feel it at the time or the moment... afterwards most definitely... but in the moment... I can't say that I feel or at least consciously aware of the feelings I am having. The only thing I am aware is what I am doing and what I am going to do. My focus and concentration at this moment never seems to be higher in anything else I do. I love the moment. To be so zone and focused on an objective of success. Knowing that when you get to the other side it is going to be just pure heaven and all things nice. But in the moment it's doing all the things necessary to get there! There is no road map it's not connect the dots or colour by numbers. It's part skill part artistry and I love that moment! I don't have time for emotions during my play. I own the moment and I use everything in that moment to get me to where I want to go. I use my emotions, my skills, my girls anything that will get me to where I want to be... god I love that moment! Damn it so Ironic that I love it more after it passes than while I am in it! I just don't seem to feel when I am in it!



JustFemi -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/3/2012 8:25:08 AM)

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Do you utilize BDSM to work out you normal day to day frustrations when they come to a head? Do you find yourself more aggressive than normal when you notice that pent up rage?

I don't use BDSM to work out ANYTHING. I can have a very bad temper, and I don't trust myself to not go too far if I'm upset. I do get more aggressive when I'm depressed, upset, or angry, and I try to avoid people alltogether when that happens. It's for the best for all involved. Especially given that I'm a sadist, so I'm already ok with hurting someone, the last thing I want it so go too far during a scene because I'm distracted with my own anger.



Deliena -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/5/2012 9:23:40 AM)

Can only answer for myself and in doing so note that my experience will vary from others as I am bi-polar and as a result normal every day stressers will have a different impact on me depending on where I am within my mood cycle as well as what is actually stressing me. Sometimes I need the structure that BDSM brings to my life to help me process and deal with that stress, sometimes its the very last thing I am capable of dealing with. (For any concerned I am both medicated and well monitored by specialists for my condition and doing very well) Of course YMMV



mummyman321 -> RE: Rage Against the Machine (6/5/2012 12:48:34 PM)

I do not think there is any one right answer. It is going to vary by individual. I think one of the key things is if the person is able to channel their stress/agressions in a positive controlled manor. Anytime you loose control it is not a good thing. So as long as you can channel your stress/agression in a positive controlled manor, I think BDSM is a great way to get some relief.



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