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Karmastic -> Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 4:49:33 PM)

this is wrong on so many levels. the mother didn't know there was a problem with missing homework? didn't the teacher send home notes or call her? didn't the mom do homework with the kid?

i'm no bleeding heart liberal that thinks everyone needs to be a winner and rah rah bullshit, but it's so so so wrong for the teacher to humiliate the kid.

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8-Year-Old Gets 'Catastrophe Award' for Most Homework Excuses

http://gma.yahoo.com/blogs/abc-blogs/8-old-gets-catastrophe-award-most-homework-excuses-113936385--abc-news-topstories.html

The mother of an 8-year-old Arizona girl who was presented with a "Catastrophe Award" for apparently having the most excuses for not having homework believes her child was humiliated by her teacher.

Christina Valdez said her daughter, Cassandra Garcia, came home one day from class at Desert Springs Academy in Tucson, Ariz., with the paper award.

The document, which looks like a colorful card, contained the following message: "You're Tops! Catastrophe Award. Awarded to Cassandra Garcia. For Most Excuses for Not Having Homework."

The teacher signed the card "Ms. Plowman," added the date - May 18, 2012 - and even included a smiley face.

The teacher announced the award in front of the entire class, and the other students laughed at her daughter, Valdez said in a Thursday interview with ABC TV affiliate KGUN-TV in Tucson.

When she contacted the school to complain, the principal "blew me off," Valdez added. "She said it was a joke that was played and that the teachers joke around with the children."

But Valdez told KGUN that she didn't find any of it funny.

"I think it's cruel and no child should be given an award like this. It's disturbing," she said, adding that she was not aware her daughter had a problem with homework, and that the girl had been enrolled in an after-school homework assistance program.

Desert Springs Academy's principal declined to comment to a KGUN reporter, the affiliate reported.
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kalikshama -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 4:58:40 PM)

My sister was telling me how her 8 year old's description of his homework included "the parents cut out..." and it wasn't until she'd given these instructions to another parent that she realized 8 yo are old enough to use scissors. She generally doesn't take his word for it but looks at his assignments herself.

I once told I guy I was dating that the CDC should look into all the illnesses befalling his family members. Odd how it seemed to rotate on a schedule, too.




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 5:09:38 PM)

Well, since they seem to have to give an award to every child these days, even if they have to make one up, maybe this was the only one the teacher could come up with.




ashjor911 -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 5:18:58 PM)

back when i was a kid, when someone in the class get an answere right, they would put a sticker (shape of a star) on his forhead..
one day i sneak up on my mom.. with five starts on my forhead... [:D][:D]





that was the first year of school....so




LafayetteLady -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 5:40:53 PM)

Perhaps the true message here should be to the mother.  Why does her child have so many excuses about homework?  If this kid has that many excuses at eight years old, what will the excuses be at fourteen?  Perhaps the "humiliation" of the truth might teach this kid a much needed lesson.

By the way, I'm sure that the child had no problem giving her excuses in front of the whole class when the teacher said, "Janie, where is your homework?"

Coddling children is basically what has made so many kids into the idiots they are these days.  Everyone needs to be awarded something, sports games where no score is kept so all the children feel like winners, ignore spelling and grammar to promote the child's creativity with the story.  Yes, these are all things that I have seen firsthand in the school systems.

When those kids become adults, where does all that leave them?




IrishMist -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 6:04:45 PM)

quote:

Coddling children is basically what has made so many kids into the idiots they are these days.

QFT




Karmastic -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 6:26:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Perhaps the true message here should be to the mother.  Why does her child have so many excuses about homework?  If this kid has that many excuses at eight years old, what will the excuses be at fourteen?  Perhaps the "humiliation" of the truth might teach this kid a much needed lesson.

By the way, I'm sure that the child had no problem giving her excuses in front of the whole class when the teacher said, "Janie, where is your homework?"

Coddling children is basically what has made so many kids into the idiots they are these days.  Everyone needs to be awarded something, sports games where no score is kept so all the children feel like winners, ignore spelling and grammar to promote the child's creativity with the story.  Yes, these are all things that I have seen firsthand in the school systems.

When those kids become adults, where does all that leave them?

i very much agree with your sentiments.

i disagree that this was the best way for the teacher to achieve the goal.




Kaliko -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 6:54:18 PM)

FR As someone who leads a group of girls on a regular basis, I can imagine developing the type of rapport to be able to make a point in this way and keep it good-natured.

Unfortunately, the school environment is such that the teacher really should have known better. You just don't do that shit.




LafayetteLady -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 6:59:16 PM)

Granted, I went to school a million years ago (or it at least feels that way), and I never really had excuses for not doing homework, except for one time, and I actually had done it.  When asked why in front of the entire class, I told the teacher my dog ate it.  Again, in front of the whole class, the teacher "berated" me for using the oldest excuse in the book.  Was I humiliated?  Not in the least.  Especially when I took out my text book and showed him that my dog had also eaten that (at least partially) as well.




Karmastic -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 7:16:29 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kaliko

FR As someone who leads a group of girls on a regular basis, I can imagine developing the type of rapport to be able to make a point in this way and keep it good-natured.

Unfortunately, the school environment is such that the teacher really should have known better. You just don't do that shit.

good choice of words. it's hard for me to imagine that scenario playing out as good natured, but i take your point. i had a bad experience with an asshole teacher trying to humiliate me, so maybe i'm more sensitive to this.

re LafayetteLady - sounds like Socratic method used in law school - not fun, and i'm not a fan of that. but fuck yeah, kids today are coddled *makes curmudgeony sounds*




MercTech -> RE: Wrong on a few levels (5/30/2012 7:37:10 PM)

For that age level the teacher should have presented a small sculpture featuring the rear end of a feline.. a true cat-ass-trophy then it would have been humor appropriate for the age group.

But, all banter aside, the teacher used poor judgement.




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