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kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (10/31/2004 8:28:35 PM)

Thank you replying, I am a newbie also and you were one of about 15 replies i had that didnt blast me for being a cheater on my spouse and yell at me for 'shoulda known better.' We have talked it out, he has my best interest of emotional health at the top of his list and I am a bit more comfortable. The 18 y/o is moving on with my Master's persuasion. He has told me yest that I am his property and he intends to respect it and take care of it as well. perhaps we can talk again. I am also new to this and have much to learn. Do you mind telling me a bit about yourself and your Master, perhaps it will help me understand mine a bit better. Again, thank you so much....kitty



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (10/31/2004 8:32:28 PM)

Thank you for your reply, my Master has pursuaded the 18 y/o to move on and he has disciplined me for not telling him how i truly felt. I am devoted to him, and he respects that i was emotionally not willing nor prepared for this. by the way,,,,you quoted Erma Bombeck, one of my favorite authors. Thank you again.



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (10/31/2004 8:54:05 PM)

Thank you for simple advice, and I want to let you know that I did tell my Master of my concerns, that i was feeling vulnerable, and he has made a commitment to me to provide me with support of my emotional well being. He understands my concerns with his actions and has asked the 18 y/o to move on ...he offered some wonderful advice to me. And thank you for just telling me that i simply needed to communicate better with him. Most folks here blasted ME instead of trying to help me. I wasnt asking for a lecture on morality, I was asking for help to get thru this. I have no intentions of leaving my Master, and he has no intentions of replacing me. Again, thank you for being concerned enough to reply...kitty



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (10/31/2004 9:07:41 PM)

You have offered some sound advice. Master had a slave for 4 yrs until she dishonored him with several lies. I have spoken with my Master, explained my fears and he has made a commitment to become more attentive to my emotional well being. The 18 y/o has been encouraged to move on with good advice from Master. I am a newbie, and he has been wonderful in introducing disciplinary actions and a lifestyle I have wanted for many many yrs. I find him wise, commited to my happiness and attends to my needs as well. I cant imagine my life without his hand of guidance...again thank you, sir



lovingmaster45 -> RE: My Master has changed (11/1/2004 3:58:58 AM)

Let me see if I got all of this correct. "Master" is married, and his wife has no clue. "slave" is married and her husband is clueless. The "one to be mentored" is a hot 18 y/o slut. He likes to fuck the 18 y/o new piece more than the 50 y/o familiar piece. Seems to me this is just a pattern. The wife got to be a bore so he found a "slave"; the slave got to be a bore so he picked up something new and exciting. As soon as he tires of her he will pass her off as being well-mentored and move on to the next fresh piece. This is no different than the vanilla world he actually belongs in. There are players everywhere.

I am married. My wife (Head Bitch Barbie) not only knows about the lifestyle she supports me in my activities....be sure to say hello to us and my sluts at Black Rose.

I have had several married subs; but insisted on meeting the husband before play to make sure he understood that I was not going to "steal" his wife.

I have also had my share of young subs. marie came to me when she was 16; she is now 23 and married.

Before all you morlaists and legal eagles get on your high horse let me enlighten you. First, the age-of-consent is/was 16 in the state where this occured; second, she was no "ordinary" 16 y/o. She had already graduated from HS and was taking her CPA exam that year. I addition, she was part Cherokee and had been trained by her grandmother in native medicine and "healings". I had her for 2 yrs beofe I could take her to a play party and even then was criticized because of her age. Of course the criticism just fired up the Indian in her and she blasted all the critics and let them know that she was the one who pursued me.

My current sub danielle is 20; she was collared on her 19th birthday. My slut susan is 50 and slut penny is 45; so age has little meaning to me within the BDSM community.

For me, this lifestyle must be based on honesty and honest communcication. I do not see an example of either of those in this case.

My advice is to just move on to the next "master" who needs a 50 y/o slut and keep your hubby in the dark as long as you can so you can continue lying to yoruself and to him while getting the fucking you must crave.



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (11/3/2004 4:03:23 PM)

Forgive me for ignoring your self serving, pompous and "I have it all and know it all attitude."
I wasnt asking for a history lesson on your multiple accomplishments or the fact that you 'took' a child and showed her the way ...which to me is rape/abuse. She should have been spending time with kids her own age and planning for the prom. But, you got to screw a child which to me, makes YOU a molestor. Call it what you want, a child of 16 is looking for someone to love and someone to look up to as a father figure. I am no dummie here, Sir. I am an RN and i counsel people in fragmented relationships and abuse/violence. I am not one of your run of the mill dumb bitches.

You , Sir, should meet my Master. He is devoted to me and I to him. OUr lives right now do not permit us to be together 24/7. We have duties to fulfill to our families and children. To abandon them so we can satisfy our own needs would be a selfish thing to do to a child and our aging parents . Our meeting was a blessing...he booted the 18 y/o to the curb 5 days ago...'nuff said



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: My Master has changed (11/3/2004 5:47:09 PM)

I wasn't going to comment on this again, but you just bring it out of me!
You counsel people in fragmented relationships? You are living one, shouldn't you practice what you preach?
You compliment people that agree with your situation, and flame the others. You are an RN? Your original comment said you had health concerns, did he not screw the 18 year old? Does your husband who you care so little for, have a right to know of your sexual relations with a man who has multiple partners?
You are screwing around, that is nothing to be proud of or excited about.
Your master is devoted to you, when you are with him, is he just as devoted to his wife when he is with her? Which devotion is real?
If he can lie to her, can't he lie to you?



stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: My Master has changed (11/3/2004 6:28:42 PM)

***STANDING UP AND CLAPPING EXCITEDLY FOR INSIDEYOURMIND!!!!!"""

BRAVO!!! B R A V O!!!!!


Gotta love it when someone else sees the common sense of someone spouting bull!!

The point is ... while some say men only think with their...... talleywhackers.... this
woman is thinking with her...... well you get the idea.

They are <after all> devoted to their spouses, kids and parents. <COUGH COUGH>

enough said, she's shown everyone what she and the one she calls master are about.
lol... and is proud of it... everyone gets pleasure differently... so the world turns...


stormi
property of Master Bear



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (11/4/2004 12:02:57 PM)

I feel most of you have little advice to offer. And as far as most of you are concerned, the only thing you are offering is slamming me without ever really wanting to know me. Your advise only pumps up YOUR self serving egos. I hope you all feel better about slamming me, this is the reason I have tried NOT to ask for advice. From the few replies I did get that were helpful, thank you from the bottom of my heart...

The subbies who are frustrated need to find a real job and a real hobby besides taking their frustrations out on another sister. I asked for advice, not a hanging. Shame on you.



TaurusMCMLVIII -> RE: My Master has changed (11/4/2004 12:03:05 PM)

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Now he has made contact with a non sub who has asked him to 'mentor' her 18 y/o niece. He is playing an unsafe (sex)game here and does not seem to understand my need for his attention right now, I am feeling pushed aside and very vulnerable.


My sympathies for this mess you are faced with. I understand your concerns regarding your feelings based on his actions. But I can't keep quiet about the fact that this child is 18 years old. And I am using that term deliberately. She may be able to vote or join the army but at 18 how can any one say she is old enough to become involved in the activities being suggested??? Anyone who is a parent can easily answer that. Anyone else should be also though I am sure there may be a few answers that would horrify me. Regarding this issue, communications is the key. You have an obligation to force why you think this is wrong as well as your feelings as a result. If that doesn't work then a more drastic intervention may be required. Search your heart for the answer.



Mercnbeth -> RE: My Master has changed (11/4/2004 1:44:33 PM)

quote:

I asked for advice


however, u forgot to put in a disclaimer that said u would only think helpful the responses that agreed with your choices! this slave's advice to u would be to go back over the posts that offended u and ask yourself why u were so offended by them. u claimed to be on an emotional rollercoaster, aching and feeling alone and u turned to the message board here after your master's reassurances did nothing for u. why do u think his reassurances did nothing for u? this slave was wondering if you were suffering because of his choices, or because of yours? part and parcel of having an affair (or relationship, or whatever u want to call it) that has it's roots in deception (regardless of who u are keeping it from or why) is that issues will arise with regards to intent, integrity and honesty of both parties. the foundation of this slave's relationship with Master is one of complete trust, honesty and devotion. the only way this slave could have that and a second relationship with a vanilla husband that she considered herself to be just as devoted to would be if she had multiple personalities who had no idea the other existed. often, when folks are deeply in denial, the "tough love" and "intervention" approaches are attempted to shake them up a bit with no disrespect or harm intended. this slave believes that maintaining a monogamous "farce" is harmful and emotionally abusive not only to the spouse who believes his/her relationship is sincere, but also to yourself. this is probably not the first time u will encounter these feelings and resultant difficulty in dealing with them. it is sort of like a rapist complaining he got an std from his victim and then feeling "flamed" by those who are less than sympathetic with his health issues. this slave's advice to u would be to start being honest in all of your relationships, including being honest with yourself. good luck with your situation.



INSIDEYOURMIND -> RE: My Master has changed (11/4/2004 1:58:25 PM)


quote:

this slave's advice to u would be to start being honest in all of your relationships, including being honest with yourself


beth,
Smart, beautiful, and a wonderful slave, Timo is a very lucky man!

I could not agree more with your response to this thread!



stormiKnightBEAR -> RE: My Master has changed (11/4/2004 3:39:30 PM)

beth,

very well put!!!!

Problem is simply that she wants another "sister" (funny don't see anyone giving her that *honor* to address
them as sister, but any whooooo) to justify her screwed up choices.

You are on the mark about several things the first is being honest with yourself as well as others in your life.
That would include her HUBBY and his WIFE. But chances are this is not the first affair for either.

So the story goes on and on and on....

Thanks for a great post!!



stormi
property of Master Bear



Voltare -> RE: My Master has changed (11/5/2004 11:33:57 AM)

Wow, interesting situation...

kathy,

First while I feel for you in your situation, it seems the heat you are getting from the other posters in this thread are justified. It isn't to say you are a 'bad person and getting what you deserve' but rather, your search for fulfillment puts yourself, your family, and his family at risk. Your Master, in taking you as a slave, is also placing these people at risk - and as you already have discovered has no qualms about increasing these risks by becoming involved with the 18 year old girl, and two other subs.... where does it stop?

In my opinion, the D/s relationship should not be about the mutual engagement of kinky sex but about a mental and emotional bond. Obviously, there are many types of relationships in this world - but different thigs you have said here to describe your relationship don't match. One one hand, he seems to be having as much kinky sex as he can, but on the other you describe "We are both totally devoted to our families. We found each other and that part of our life is not for anyone to share, only us. " suggesting that he is a devoted family man, but that you two manage to have a deep and loving emotional connection.

Extramarital affairs never last. Two, three, four, five years.... more, less, there is always a time limit and when the limit expires, it's usually timebomb style. They are based on relationship dynamics far different then a committed monogamous relationship - the thrill of someone new, mixed with the freedom coming from surrendering control are powerful aphrodesiacs. You mention jealousy over the 18 year old girl - but you seem to have no qualm over his wife?

The relationship you are in, essentially, is unhealthy and unstable. Perhaps the answer would be to let this man go his own way, and try and find fulfillment with your husband. If your marriage is lacking so severely that you cannot find happiness in it, perhaps you should consider moving on there as well. In the end, if you aren't happy with your life, only you have the power to change it.

In any event, from a Dominant male standpoint, your Master wants one thing... or rather one thing from many women. It sounds like his idea of intimacy is getting close to five women at once (count em, you, his wife, this 18 year old, and the two subs you've tried playing with.) This is not someone I would trust to watch my cat for the weekend, nevermind a blood family member or friend. I'd hate to come home and find out my cat was seduced in the middle of the night.

Stephan



kathy43432NAN -> RE: My Master has changed (11/17/2004 7:40:02 PM)

Although a bit belated, thank you Voltare for your comments. I have indeed opened up some better communication with Master thru all of this.
And your common sense and insight were very helpful. Thank you so much



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