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subrob1967 -> RE: Al Queda strategist Droned??? (6/9/2012 10:52:03 AM)
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Sorry to revive a dead thread, but the old man is stalking me in an active thread... Here ya go, old man.
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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
Lmfao..... I think all the dead bodies prove it. You dont even know wtf you are talking about. It was the Sunni who were both in power and the minority of the population, it is laughable you dont even know that simple fact, yet ask me to "Prove it"
Even on the brink of invasion someone had to explain the difference between Shia and Sunni to GWB. Suggesting his post war planning was almost non existent.
Actually, the group in power was the socialist Ba'ath party, which I mistook for Shia.
So we were BOTH wrong, old man.
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Ba'athist Iraq: 1968–2003
Main article: History of Iraq (1968–2003)
In contrast to the 1963 coup, the 1968 coup led by civilian Ba'ath Party members. The President of Iraq Abdul Rahman Arif, who had taken over from his brother, was a weak leader according to historian Con Coughlin. Hussein, through the Jihaz Haneen, managed to get in contact with several military officers before the coup who either supported the Ba'ath Party, or wanted to use the party as a vehicle to power. Some officers, such as Hardan al-Tikriti, were already members of the party, while Abdul Razzak Nayif, the deputy head of military intelligence, and Colonel Ibrahim Daud, the commander of the Republican Guard were neither party members or sympathetic to their cause. In a surprising turn of events, on 16 July 1968, Nayif and Daud were summoned to the Presidential Palace to Arif, where he asked them if they knew of a imminent coup against him. Both Nayid and Daud denied knowledge of any coup. However, when the Ba'ath Party leadership got a hold on this information, they quickly convened a meeting at al-Bakr's house. The meeting came to the conclusion that the coup had to be initiated as quickly as possible, even if they had to concede to give Nayif and Daud the posts of Prime Minister and Defense Minister, respectively. Hussein, at the meeting, declared, "I am aware that the two officers have been imposed on us and that they want to stab the Party in the back in the service of some interest or other, but we have no choice. We should collaborate with them and liquidate immediately during, or after, the revolution. And I volunteer to carry out the task".[37]
Then Iraqi President Ahmed Hassan al-Bakr, right, and Saddam Hussein as seen in Baghdad, 1978.
The so-called 17 July Revolution was in the purest sense, a military coup, and not a popular revolt against the incumbent government. In comparison to the coups of 1958 and 1963, the 1968 coup was, according to historian Con Coughlin, a "relatively civil affair". The coup, which begun in the early morning of 17 July, was initiated by the seizing of several key positions by the military and Ba'ath Party activists, such as the headquarters of the Ministry of Defense and television-, radio- and the electricity station. All the city's bridges were captured, all telephone lines were cut and at exactly 3 A.M. the order was given to march on the Presidential Palace. President Arif, who was fast asleep, had no control over the situation whatsoever.[38] The plot was masterminded by al-Bakr,[39] but led on the ground by Hussein and Saleh Omar al-Ali.[38] A power struggle, which was anticipated and planned by al-Bakr, between the Ba'ath Party and the military, represented by Nayif and Daud, began.[40] Daud lost his ministership during an official visit to Jordan, while Nayid was exiled after Hussein threatened him and his family with death.[41]
At the time of the party's seizure of power, only 5,000 people were members;[42] by the late 1970s it had increased to 1.2 million members.[43] In 1974 the Iraqi Ba'athists formed the National Progressive Front to broaden support for the government's initiatives. Wranglings within the party continued, and the government periodically purged its dissident members;[44] among them was Fuad al-Rikabi, the party's first Secretary General of the Regional Command.[45] Emerging as the party strongman,[46] Hussein eventually used his growing power[47] to push al-Bakr aside in 1979 and ruled Iraq until the 2003 Invasion of Iraq.[48] Under al-Bakr's tenure, before the Iran–Iraq War, Iraq experienced its most dramatic and successful period of economic growth,[49] with its citizens enjoying standards of health care, housing, instruction and salaries/stipends well comparable to those of European countries. Several major infrastructures were laid down to help with the country's growth,[50] and the Iraqi oil industry was nationalised[51] with help from the Soviet Union; Alexei Kosygin, the Chairman of the USSR Council of Ministers, signed the bilateral treaty, the Treaty of Friendship and Cooperation in 1972.[47]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Socialist_Ba%27ath_Party_%E2%80%93_Iraq_Region
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