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We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 6:13:50 AM   
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Pity the Poor Billionaires

by Bill Moyers and Michael Winship

We had the perfect headline all picked out for this piece but our colleague Paul Waldman at The American Prospect magazine beat us to the punch:

"It's Hard Out There for a Billionaire."

You see, according to Politico.com, the so-called "mega-donors," unleashed by Citizens United and pouring boundless big bucks into this year's political campaigns, are upset that their massive contributions are being exposed to public view, ignoring the right of every one of us to know who is giving money to candidates -- and the opportunity to try to figure out why.

"Quit picking on us" is part of Politico's headline. Their article says that the mega-donors' "six- and seven-figure contributions have... bought them nothing but grief."

This is definitely not what they had in mind. In their view, cutting a million-dollar check to try to sway the presidential race should be just another way to do their part for democracy, not a fast-track to the front page.

Uh-huh. The sound you hear is the world's smallest violin, say, a teeny-tiny Stradivarius insured for millions. "Is there a group of people you can think of who have thinner skin than America's multimillionaires and billionaires?' Paul Waldman asks.

Wall Street titans have been whining for a couple of years now about the horror of people in politics criticizing ineffective banking regulations and the favorable tax treatment so many wealthy people receive... America's barons feel assaulted, victimized, wounded in ways that not even a bracing ride to your Hamptons estate in your new Porsche 911 can salve. And now that the presidential campaign is in full swing, their tender feelings are being hurt left and right.

Last month, an Obama website cited eight mega-donors to Mitt Romney's campaign as possessing "less-than-reputable records." Among them was Frank VanderSloot, a Romney national finance co-chairman who has raised millions for the campaign. He's a rancher -- with 110,448 acres, on which he no doubt roams playing "This Land is Your Land" on his little Stradivarius -- and CEO of the billion-dollar company Melaleuca, which Rolling Stone describes as "a 'multilevel marketing' firm based in Idaho that sells off-brand cleaning products and nutritional supplements."

VanderSloot and his wealthy pals went ballistic and cried intimidation. "You go back to the Dark Ages," VanderSloot said, "when they put these people in the stocks or whatever they did, or publicly humiliated them as a deterrent to everybody else -- watch this -- watch what we do to the guy who did this."

Conservatives described the Obama ranking of Romney contributors as an "enemies list," conjuring images of Nixonian wiretaps and punitive tax audits. But despite protestations to the contrary, these deep-pocketed plutocrats aren't shelling out the shekels for the love of flag, Mom and apple pie (or tarte tatin, as they call it in the swanky joints).

"Most of the megadonors backing [Romney's] candidacy are elderly billionaires," Tim Dickinson writes in Rolling Stone. "Their median age is 66, and their median wealth is $1 billion. Each is looking for a payoff that will benefit his business interests, and they will all profit from Romney's pledge to eliminate inheritance taxes, extend the Bush tax cuts for the superwealthy -- and then slash the top tax rate by another 20 percent." As at least one of them has said, they view these cash infusions as an "investment," plain and simple.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 6:53:12 AM   
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No, you are not being too mean to billionaires.
Not until somebody digs up Steve Jobs and uses his corpse as a ventriloquist dummy at a music festival, or Donald Trump is publicly hung drawn and quartered by a gang of former The Apprentice contestants.
Until such time as that sort of shit starts happening, this is just a bunch of overindulged fuckwits whining like schoolgirls.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 6:57:50 AM   
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Until such time as that sort of shit starts happening, this is just a bunch of overindulged fuckwits whining like schoolgirls.


Ummm yeah, well I don't think most people will take my opening title literally.

But if you could get on the Trump thing ASAP I would be most grateful.


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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 7:02:26 AM   
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Steve Jobs didn't die he ascended to a higher plane using electronically aided spirtual chanting, you'll not be able to dig his corpse up since it's made of pure goodness energy.

He was not a mortal, could a mortal come up with the I-Phone/I-Pad/I-Tunes/I-Telegram/I-Fax ??? No, wash your mouth out this instant!

Sacrilege!

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 7:07:05 AM   
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Steve Jobs didn't die he ascended to a higher plane using electronically aided spirtual chanting, you'll not be able to dig his corpse up since it's made of pure goodness energy.


You're absolutely right ... or something anyway.
We'll instead dig up all those chinese workers who lept before they got the chicken wire up in the apple plant to reduce worker suicides.


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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 8:27:45 AM   
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If you must, strange hobby.

I'll just stand back a bit and let you get on with that.

In the game of risk analysis the first question we must ask ourselves is: "Does a Chinese factory need a second floor?"

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 9:57:56 AM   
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If you must, strange hobby.

I'll just stand back a bit and let you get on with that.

In the game of risk analysis the first question we must ask ourselves is: "Does a Chinese factory need a second floor?"


Hahahaha ,... suck it.



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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 9:58:27 AM   
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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 10:05:22 AM   
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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 10:15:01 AM   
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In the game of risk analysis the first question we must ask ourselves is: "Does a Chinese factory need a second floor?"

Of course it does: if there's nowhere for staff to kill themselves, then Foxconn will have to start paying fired workers redundancy, won't they?

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 10:19:56 AM   
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Not certain, maybe David Cameron can shown the Chinese the Beecroft report findings.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 10:52:17 AM   
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No, you are not being too mean to billionaires.
Not until somebody digs up Steve Jobs and uses his corpse as a ventriloquist dummy at a music festival, or Donald Trump is publicly hung drawn and quartered by a gang of former The Apprentice contestants.
Until such time as that sort of shit starts happening, this is just a bunch of overindulged fuckwits whining like schoolgirls.

What worries me is how close we are to this sort of stuff and how completely oblivious to the ugly mood of the average american these mega wealthy are.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 10:56:42 AM   
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If it isn't worrying them enough to take certain precautions against making themselves a target for well earned resentment and bile, I don't honestly see why it should worry anybody else any.
I'm funny like that. Probably a Eurotrash lefty thing...

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 11:40:46 AM   
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Interesting, These cold, heartless 1% multimillionaires who live in huge 20,000 square feet houses in exclusive neighborhoods. Would these be the same movie stars that are hard core lefties? who talk trash about "capitalism and excessive wealth?" Next time you're hungry, go knock on your favorite movie stars door and ask for some help. See what you get. (that is if you can even get to their door) I wonder how they spell hypocrite?

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 11:45:30 AM   
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So which of these hypocritical movie stars are funding a libertarian nutcase who shouldn't be trusted to run a piss up in a brewery (never mind a country)'s bid for the Presidency on the understanding that they'll get a tax cut in return for their donation, then?

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 12:27:56 PM   
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If it isn't worrying them enough to take certain precautions against making themselves a target for well earned resentment and bile, I don't honestly see why it should worry anybody else any.
I'm funny like that. Probably a Eurotrash lefty thing...

The problem is this sort of situation is ripe for the worst sorts of demagogues. The French Revolution is the usual example but it could be argued the Russian Revolution went bad for the same reason even though which group took over is different.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 2:08:53 PM   
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I think there was a bit more to both than demagoguery and people being a trifle narked about tax cuts for the plutocracy, but it is a while since I've read any history.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 2:12:10 PM   
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I think there was a bit more to both than demagoguery and people being a trifle narked about tax cuts for the plutocracy, but it is a while since I've read any history.

Of course there was but the disconnect between the oligarchy and the commoner's problems was a major contributing factor in both revolutions.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 2:23:45 PM   
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Today, it seems, the ideology between the rich is to fund both side politicians. Whoever wins the elections will be useful then for the donor. Looking at Obama list [ http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/contrib.php?cid=N00009638 ] the high education interest and banking interest hopes to continue to benefit big.  It has been noticed, politicians are cheap whores in the US, often 5 figure donations make millions for the donor. Looks like Microsoft has learned the lesson Clinton gave it (or him, as it is a person). They have moved to the top of the list.
I do agree with the billionaires: they need to control news (it is becoming difficult). Exposing the corruption causes people loosing faith in the political/economic system as a whole, and it is very serious problem.

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RE: We Are Being Too Mean To Billionaires... - 6/5/2012 4:36:22 PM   
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Until such time as that sort of shit starts happening, this is just a bunch of overindulged fuckwits whining like schoolgirls.

Ummm yeah, well I don't think most people will take my opening title literally.
But if you could get on the Trump thing ASAP I would be most grateful.


Add me to the list of most grateful, too.

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