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kalikshama -> How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 12:17:05 PM)

A new expose by The Times-Picayune of New Orleans calls Louisiana the "world's prison capital."

The state imprisons more people per capita than any other state or country in the world, with one out of every 86 adults behind bars. Its rate of incarceration is five times higher than Iran's, 13 times China's and 20 times higher than Germany's.*

How did Louisiana double its prison population in the past 20 years? And what differentiates it from other states?

The difference, says Times-Picayune reporter Cindy Chang, is that more than half of the inmates in the state are housed in local prisons run by sheriffs, and the state's correction system has created financial incentives for those sheriffs to keep prisons full.

"In Louisiana, the system has grown so that sheriffs house a lot of inmates who are serving state sentences," Chang tells Fresh Air's Dave Davies. "And the reason the sheriffs are willing to do that is because they get money in return for doing that."

A majority of Louisiana's inmates are now housed in for-profit jails, which are run in many instances by parish sheriffs located in rural areas of the state. The sheriffs receive approximately $25 a day per inmate.

In some instances, sheriffs outsource the prisons to for-profit companies who then operate the prisons themselves. In exchange, the sheriffs receive cash for their department, which allows them to hire more employees.

"We went to Jackson Parish ... and what the sheriff there gets is a guaranteed $100,000 a year, whether the prison is making a profit or not," she says. "But what he really gets — and he was not shy about using this word — is the patronage. Because his department, prior to this, had 50 employees, and now it has 150 employees. In a place like that, 100 jobs with benefits is huge. And what he means by patronage, of course, is that he'll get re-elected if he keeps supporting these [prison] jobs."

Conditions at the rural sheriffs' prisons differ remarkably from those in larger state institutions, says Chang.

"They're usually dormitories, and there's typically 80 or 90 women or men sleeping in a large room in bunk beds," she says. "And the difference is that people are just lounging around that dorm. They will literally sit there day after day, year after year, until their sentence is over. Whereas in a state prison, which is where most states house almost all of their inmates, you're busy whether you like it or not — you have a job or you take classes or you're learning a trade that will help you get a job when you get out."

Each inmate is worth $24.39 a day in state money. Housing the inmates cheaply and providing few services means there's more money left over for the sheriff's department, says Chang.

"It's kind of a vicious cycle," she says. "If you can reduce the prison population, then hopefully you'll have more money to give the ones who are in the system more help. [But] the Sheriff's Association is one of the most powerful lobbies in the state. And they've consistently opposed any change that would reduce the prison population."

Louisiana's prison sentences are among the harshest in the country. The state leads the country in the percentage of inmates who are serving life without parole and exceeds the national average for the number of nonviolent offenders behind bars. Chang writes that a two-time car burglar can receive 24 years without parole. Three drug convictions can send a prisoner away for life.

Though the state's prison budget is $600 million, comparisons with other states are difficult, she says.

"Twenty-five dollars a day is incarceration on the cheap," she says. "In Louisiana state prisons they spend, on average, $55 an inmate, so the average in Louisiana comes out to $38 per day, per inmate, which is the lowest in the country. So if you look at the size of the budget, it's very misleading, because we're incarcerating two people to every one person in another state because we spend so little on them."

Interview Highlights

On Louisiana's prison budget


"A long-term consequence of our policies is that there has been less money to fund some of the very things that might keep people out of the prison system in the first place — like early childhood programs, schools, after-school programs, recreation programs."

On the profits made by rural prisons and sheriffs

"You're talking about rural parishes that before this were so underfunded that they were buying used patrol cars from Oklahoma, they were driving around in cars with 200,000 miles on them, they were sharing bulletproof vests. So [any profit] is going back into [the sheriff's] department, often to buy basic equipment for his deputies."

On relocating inmates

"I've talked to many inmates who were transferred multiple times and they don't know why. It's not because they were troublemakers or because they didn't get along with people. Sometimes it's just between the rural sheriffs trading [prisoners], and it can be that one sheriff needs a skilled mechanic and the other sheriff ended up with two."

* NPR's website had different stats from the story I heard so I corrected it to reflect the original reporting http://media.nola.com/prisons/other/tp-2012-prisons-part-1c.pdf




tj444 -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 12:40:32 PM)

yabbut.. Iran & China just execute some of their prisoners so that skews the stats a tad..

but yeah,.. the US supposedly being a civilized society has some very uncivilized practices.. prison labor being a big one,.. (jailing pot users including medical users is another).. I find it pretty funny when so many Americans and CM posters are so against offshoring and demonize China, etc yet their own state govts are providing corporations with slave labor at rates that rival China, etc.. so its your own govt that is contributing to killing American jobs..

JMO

eta- American forfeiture laws are pretty draconian also.. they corrupt policing just as much or more than what goes on in this article..




MasterG2kTR -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 1:36:45 PM)

Are all the inmates actual residents of the state? Or are many of them imported prisoners from other states where the other states are looking to cut their costs or alleviate overcrowding? Louisiana certainly makes it likely for the latter to be the case due to their low cost of housing prisoners.




kalikshama -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 1:44:11 PM)

There's no mention of out-of-state inmates in either article.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 7:38:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

A new expose by The Times-Picayune of New Orleans calls Louisiana the "world's prison capital."

The state imprisons more people per capita than any other state or country in the world, with one out of every 86 adults behind bars. Its rate of incarceration is five times higher than Iran's, 13 times China's and 20 times higher than Germany's.*

How did Louisiana double its prison population in the past 20 years? And what differentiates it from other states?

The difference, says Times-Picayune reporter Cindy Chang, is that more than half of the inmates in the state are housed in local prisons run by sheriffs, and the state's correction system has created financial incentives for those sheriffs to keep prisons full.

"In Louisiana, the system has grown so that sheriffs house a lot of inmates who are serving state sentences," Chang tells Fresh Air's Dave Davies. "And the reason the sheriffs are willing to do that is because they get money in return for doing that."

A majority of Louisiana's inmates are now housed in for-profit jails, which are run in many instances by parish sheriffs located in rural areas of the state. The sheriffs receive approximately $25 a day per inmate.

In some instances, sheriffs outsource the prisons to for-profit companies who then operate the prisons themselves. In exchange, the sheriffs receive cash for their department, which allows them to hire more employees.

"We went to Jackson Parish ... and what the sheriff there gets is a guaranteed $100,000 a year, whether the prison is making a profit or not," she says. "But what he really gets — and he was not shy about using this word — is the patronage. Because his department, prior to this, had 50 employees, and now it has 150 employees. In a place like that, 100 jobs with benefits is huge. And what he means by patronage, of course, is that he'll get re-elected if he keeps supporting these [prison] jobs."

Conditions at the rural sheriffs' prisons differ remarkably from those in larger state institutions, says Chang.

"They're usually dormitories, and there's typically 80 or 90 women or men sleeping in a large room in bunk beds," she says. "And the difference is that people are just lounging around that dorm. They will literally sit there day after day, year after year, until their sentence is over. Whereas in a state prison, which is where most states house almost all of their inmates, you're busy whether you like it or not — you have a job or you take classes or you're learning a trade that will help you get a job when you get out."

Each inmate is worth $24.39 a day in state money. Housing the inmates cheaply and providing few services means there's more money left over for the sheriff's department, says Chang.

"It's kind of a vicious cycle," she says. "If you can reduce the prison population, then hopefully you'll have more money to give the ones who are in the system more help. [But] the Sheriff's Association is one of the most powerful lobbies in the state. And they've consistently opposed any change that would reduce the prison population."

Louisiana's prison sentences are among the harshest in the country. The state leads the country in the percentage of inmates who are serving life without parole and exceeds the national average for the number of nonviolent offenders behind bars. Chang writes that a two-time car burglar can receive 24 years without parole. Three drug convictions can send a prisoner away for life.

Though the state's prison budget is $600 million, comparisons with other states are difficult, she says.

"Twenty-five dollars a day is incarceration on the cheap," she says. "In Louisiana state prisons they spend, on average, $55 an inmate, so the average in Louisiana comes out to $38 per day, per inmate, which is the lowest in the country. So if you look at the size of the budget, it's very misleading, because we're incarcerating two people to every one person in another state because we spend so little on them."

Interview Highlights

On Louisiana's prison budget


"A long-term consequence of our policies is that there has been less money to fund some of the very things that might keep people out of the prison system in the first place — like early childhood programs, schools, after-school programs, recreation programs."

On the profits made by rural prisons and sheriffs

"You're talking about rural parishes that before this were so underfunded that they were buying used patrol cars from Oklahoma, they were driving around in cars with 200,000 miles on them, they were sharing bulletproof vests. So [any profit] is going back into [the sheriff's] department, often to buy basic equipment for his deputies."

On relocating inmates

"I've talked to many inmates who were transferred multiple times and they don't know why. It's not because they were troublemakers or because they didn't get along with people. Sometimes it's just between the rural sheriffs trading [prisoners], and it can be that one sheriff needs a skilled mechanic and the other sheriff ended up with two."

* NPR's website had different stats from the story I heard so I corrected it to reflect the original reporting http://media.nola.com/prisons/other/tp-2012-prisons-part-1c.pdf


quote:

How did Louisiana double its prison population in the past 20 years? And what differentiates it from other states?


Money.




Marini -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/5/2012 10:17:46 PM)

Thank you for sharing this eye opening information.
.......financial incentives to keep the prisons full?...

Outsourcing to for profit corporations?
The government can't even run jails and prisons?

WTF?

Again, financial compensation to keep the jails full?

From the Times Picayune article, "Louisiana's prison sentences are among the harshest in the country. The state leads the country in the percentage of inmates who are serving life without parole and exceeds the national average for the number of nonviolent offenders behind bars. Chang writes that a two-time car burglar can receive 24 years without parole. Three drug convictions can send a prisoner away for life."

I still marvel that I live in a country, that it is very possible to get more
time for robbery and drug possession than 2nd degree murder.

Interesting article, world's prison capital, what a dubious honor.




tj444 -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:10:07 PM)

Here is another article, same sorta thing but a little different twist.. prisons for profit but in this article its illegal immigrants that are the prisoners.. and its Arizona that is profiting

Private Prisons Profit From Immigration Crackdown, Federal And Local Law Enforcement Partnerships
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/07/private-prisons-immigration-federal-law-enforcement_n_1569219.html




servantforuse -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:15:48 PM)

Who cares. If they commit crimes they should be in prison and I don't really care what state they are serving time in.




tj444 -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:25:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Who cares. If they commit crimes they should be in prison and I don't really care what state they are serving time in.

Imo, if someone commits a serious crime, then yes, they should go to jail but imo, someone that smokes pot for medical reasons or just because he/she likes to shouldnt be in jail.. same with other minor offenses..

but.. its your tax dollars that pay for it while the corps profit from it.. if you dont mind that money coming out of your pocket and going to a greedy corp to house some pothead or minor offense "criminal" instead of getting spent on education or health care or helping homeless or seniors,.. then so be it..




Edwynn -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:29:15 PM)


As the world awaits new englanders to finally catch up to reality 30 years behind the times, the world takes a dive in consequence, unfortunately ...

Privatizing of the prison system, ...

Reagan's handlers ...

History ...

All that stuff ...

Louisianna did not instigate mandatory minimums, there's the hint.







Edwynn -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:49:33 PM)


If only Merkel and Sarkozy had spent more time fettering themselves over Biloxi and Metaire rather than Wall Street and Boston (or Sacramento) the world would be a better place now, wouldn't it?

Just ask the Europeans and the Asians. Ask Indonesia or Malaysia or Equador, or Nicaragua. Go ahead, just ask them.

They should watch more outdated movies and be better informed, I say. Then they would know that it's all Mississippi and Lousianna's fault, all of it.

Texas and Louisianna and Alaska are at least competent enough to extract some bit of royalty from the oil companies regarding the natural resource extraction from their land, whereas the putatively 'more enlightened' voters of the 'blue state' California decided that Chevron should take it all, as so voted in a citizen referendum. "Bubba" politics apparently not needed when simpleton citizens are so easy to hand, in that instance.

It's all about entertainment value, any regards. Cali foisted Reagan upon the country 32 years ago, and it will take several generations beyond ours to recover, assuming that is possible.

Educational value means different things to different folks. Pardon the confusion of the masses therein, however insistant or obsessive.

Or incessant.







Edwynn -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/7/2012 9:51:49 PM)


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Politesub53 -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/8/2012 3:32:26 AM)

I have always wondered about the effect of Plea bargaining within the US legal system. Would more people be prepared to go before a Jury and plead not guilty if they knew jail time wouldnt be so high if they lost ? It seems to me the system is flawed, along with the three strikes rule which sees people jailed for lesser crimes.




tj444 -> RE: How Louisiana Became The World's 'Prison Capital' (6/8/2012 5:27:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53
I have always wondered about the effect of Plea bargaining within the US legal system. Would more people be prepared to go before a Jury and plead not guilty if they knew jail time wouldnt be so high if they lost ? It seems to me the system is flawed, along with the three strikes rule which sees people jailed for lesser crimes.

Throw in asset forfeiture and its even more ominous.. you need to prove you acquired the seized goods or cash legally but that can be hard to do since they usually take every cent you have so you dont have the money to hire a lawyer to fight to get it back.. And you only have a very short time frame to do so and its very expensive so some cops only seize smaller amounts so its not worth you fighting for.. you dont even need to be charged for them to do that, and you might even just be an innocent third party.. Its really quite disgusting and scary what they can get away with and legally steal from average citizens not even proven guilty of any crime.. Policing for Profit is now big business..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gU-tiGU6SiA

Even Your Drums Arent Safe


"Asset forfeiture has risen from an obscure concept in the mid-1980s to a whopping profit-making industry for law enforcement agencies. Over 400 federal statues now trigger forfeiture, and every state has its own statutes as well. These statutes allow police to seize property - not just from criminal defendants, but from third parties such as parents, spouses, landlords, and lien-holders. Because there is no requirement that anyone be charged, much less convicted, large numbers of forfeiture cases are not even connected to a criminal proceeding."


"In 2010, forfeiture programs confiscated condominium units, homes, cars, boats and cash in more than 15,000 cases, worth a combined $2.5 billion – an amount that has doubled in five years, according to the U.S. Justice Department."

http://www.ij.org/acanapolicing-for-profitacana-report-documents-the-nationwide-abuse-of-civil-forfeiture




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