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DesideriScuri -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/13/2012 7:10:05 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Marini
People might not get "used to" bitching and whining.
People MIGHT start to organize and start doing a bit more than bitch and whine.


And, even that might not get their attention. Look at how the Tea Party rallies and the OWS demonstrations haven't really changed a whole lot.


Let me state this as succinctly as possible.
I BLAME both political major political parties, {Republicans and Democrats}, for directly being responsible for the outsourcing of the American economy.
I find the Republican party PRIMARILY responsible for the current economic conditions in this country.

Both parties depend/cater to wealthy large corporate and wealthy donors.
When you get right down to "it", what groups really have the most power in this country?


Marini, let me state this clearly. I was honest and sincere with my kudos over your illegal immigration views and in your belief that both parties are guilty of catering to Big Money. On those two points, we also have common ground.

I blame both parties, equally, for the situation we are in now. I'm not going to go all the way back to the fuckups of the Great Depression and blame damn near every ill on Democrats, either. R's have been in power enough and haven't rolled back anything.

I hate politics. I hate that it's nothing more than a game for politicians. I hate that politicians will lie, cheat and steal to stay in power. I hate that politicians are more concerned with their re-election campaigns than their actual duties.

I hate the Big Money can buy our Government. I hate that our Citizenry's votes can be bought by Big Gov.

The current crop of Democrats have us on the fast-track to more corruption and less freedom. At least the Republicans path isn't as fast, though it's likely to end up in the same final destination.

I'd rather be on the slow track than the fast track. It gives us more time to turn around.




Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/13/2012 10:31:44 PM)

I thought of this thread when someone posted this video on facebook.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghrDIQ-K8mg




Marini -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/15/2012 7:46:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonlightmaddnes
I thought of this thread when someone posted this video on facebook.
/http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghrDIQ-K8mg


This is so true, I see many of these people often!
;)
Many people have a humiliation fetish, in fact I think I recognize
some of these faces/bodies from CollarMe!


Thanks for sharing!




Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/15/2012 10:43:04 AM)

LOL your welcome! The video is good for a chuckle. I never get to see any of the fun stuff since we have really nice wal marts around here. Now my local redneck grocery store. I hae seen some sights that have me shaking my head ad laughing at the redneckness of it.




thompsonx -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/18/2012 7:45:19 AM)


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You are talking about what should happen in a "perfect" world. I am talking about what happens in the real world. Life is not fair, get over it!


I am not talking about a perfect world I am speaking about the rule of law...that seems to offend you for some reason...why? Without the rule of law what stops some disgruntled individual from imposing a .45 cal. solution on your life is not fair mindset?


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Successful people make things happen, Whiners make excuses.


You try to neatly place all into one of two catagories...those criminals you approve of and those who disaprove of your choice. Thus your false arguement leads inevitably to a false conclusion.

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There are too many success stories where dirt poor people went on to be Doctors, Lawyers, executives, etc. There is no reason why a smart, hard working person cannot get an education to be successful.


You are making the flawed assumption that education leads enevitably to success. So also it's corolary that without an education you cannot achieve financial success. Neither carnagie nor gates had a college degree.

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School loans are available to the poor. Many on here will verify these loans are only available to the poor! Every working parent I talked with made too much for their kids to get government loans.


What is your point here? That the taxpayers should subsidize the education of those who can afford to pay their own way?

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If Bill Gates sat and cried in his beer, he wouldn't be rich today. same with Warren buffett, Mark Zuckerburg, etc.


Perhaps you might do a little research and find out just how those individuals bacame wealthy? You may find out that it was from fraud,colusion and extortion.

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Yes, the government should prevent "dumping" of foreign goods in America. But even if they did, it would not make up the imbalance of wages between foreign and American workers. There are economic facts of life that are absolute wheather you like them or not.


You do not seem to be aware of any of the facts economic or otherwise.
Would it surprise you to know that sugar is a tropical comodity that a few people in the u.s. try to raise in competition with cheap labor in tropical environments. The .30 cent a pound tax is sufficient to keep those u.s. sugar farmers in business. If it works for such an assanine enterprise why not for those that make sense?


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I would love to see everybody making 100,000/yr with great benefits, but I live in the real world. Spain, Italy, Ireland and especially Greece are about to leave their vacation from reality. Because the germans work hard and live within their means, Germany is finiancially sound. The dreamers say because germany is rich, they should bail them out. The German people are basically saying fuck them. They made their fantasy land, let them fix it !


Perhaps you should acquaint yourself with the facts befor posting such insipid tripe. Perhaps you might tell us how many days vacation time germans get as opposed to the greeks? What their relative pay scales are? How do their social welfare programs differ?
Instead of just parroting what some talking head says how bout you actually come up with some numbers?


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And the Liberal idea of unlimited immigration.


How do you get this as a liberal concept. The immigration policy has been the same for quite some time. If you believe that conservatives or republicrats have done anything in this area please share with us the relevant legislation.

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With 1000's of people applying for 100's of jobs, Do you still think unlimited immigration is a good idea?


Where have I mentioned such a thing?

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Yeah, reality again.


You do seem to be having a bit of trouble attaching any of it to your posts.

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The illegal immigrant's rights you fight for is the guy who gets free schooling, and gets a better job than you, or worse, YOUR job.

Based on what you said earlier in this post you now seem to feel that only illegal immigrants are poor enough to qualify for the government education loans.




thompsonx -> RE: Wal-Mart driving down wages (6/18/2012 7:54:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee



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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: YSG

Marini, I am a Maoist, which is an updated form of Marxism (yes, the philosophy that throws conservatives into seizures). I know all too well the problems with capitalism, and the need to replace it with something better. If you would like, I can share some literature with you.


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Something better is the death of 40-70 million people,


Whch 40-70 million people are you speaking of?
What did they die from?


The 40-70 million Chinese that are DEAD and do not exist anymore. Mostly they died from starvation.


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famine,

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Just how did mao cause a famine?


Sending the city folks out to farm. They did not know how. Farming is a bit more difficult than you give it credit for.

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mass suicide,



How did mao cause mass suicide?


It is a cultural thing.

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and political persecution?


How would you describe the difference between teniman square and wounded knee?


I wouldn't. Furthermore, this is about Chairman Mao. He died in 1976. Teniman Sqaure was not until 1989. There is nothing to discuss.

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Oh, and let's throw in the destruction of cultural artifacts and destroying religious sites.


cite please?


Go look at the destroyed religious sites. Oh, wait. You can't. They have been destroyed.

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Wow.



Just wow.

I think that I can do without your "Great Leap Forward."


Are you sugesting that china is worse off today than it was 70-100 years ago?



That is subjective. I am discussing facts.



Would you happen to have any of those facts to back your peurile post or must we content ourselves with your opinions?




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