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Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 9:39:47 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0vw6NrnbXhM

And I gotta ask, if this is true (and certifiable credible citations that it is not, not some boortz blog), how the hell does anyone think old Willard is gonna do shit now, it looks like old arBUSTO (perhaps ourBANKRUPTO) Bush type of thing in the offing, don't it?

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 10:22:37 AM

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Il pense, par conséquent, il rend la merde.

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 11:02:01 AM

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 12:03:20 PM

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First, we confirmed the Romney camp’s methodology, which relied on state-level statistics from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the federal government’s official source of employment data. The Romney campaign used figures for non-farm jobs, seasonally adjusted, as tracked by the government’s payroll survey. And because the Massachusetts governor takes office in early January, the campaign used the data for December of each year as a baseline.

According to a spokesman, the Romney campaign calculated the yearly percentage increase or decrease in job growth for each of Romney’s four years in office. So from December 2002 to December 2003, the job growth in Massachusetts was 51st highest nationally out of 50 states plus the District of Columbia -- in other words, dead last. The following year, it was 46th, then 40th, then in Romney’s final year in office -- December 2005 to December 2006 -- it was 30th in the nation.

Looking at the statistics in this way advances the Romney camp’s argument that, while Massachusetts’ overall job growth under Romney was among the lowest of any state, the trendline over time puts his tenure in a more favorable light. A state that was a doormat in job growth at the beginning of his tenure rose into the broad middle of the rankings by the end of it.

We did our own math and found the exact same results as the Romney camp. So we agree that the numbers back up Fehrnstrom’s general argument that job growth rates in the state improved over the course of Romney’s governorship relative to other states.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jun/05/eric-fehrnstrom/mitt-romney-campaign-says-job-growth-massachusetts/

It appears to me that Obama's Czar is trying to spin this, and is lying her ass off.

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 12:20:13 PM

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I don't know about credible, but according to Politifact it would seem that both camps are spinning the numbers by placing false emphasis on the actual data. According to Politifact, both camps are spinning the same numbers in such a way that it serves their argument.

I found this interesting though:

Both campaigns used as their measurement the total number of jobs in the state. We also wondered what the data would show if you looked instead at unemployment rates.

It turns out that both Massachusetts and the U.S. as a whole saw their unemployment rates drop during Romney’s governorship -- somewhat more on a national basis than in Massachusetts, but not dramatically so.

For instance, if you take the numbers from January 2003 to January 2007 -- Romney’s first and last months in office -- you find a drop of 1.2 percentage points nationally (from 5.8 percent to 4.6 percent) and 1.0 points in Massachusetts (from 5.6 percent to 4.6 percent).

In other words, when all is said and done, the unemployment trend in Romney-era Massachusetts wasn’t all that much different from that of the nation as a whole.

So, no matter how you spin the jobs creation aspect, under Romney unemployment went down as a result of his time in office. Obama's unemployment numbers rose dramatically. Again, according to Politifact, Obama's unemployment numbers are as follows:

Official unemployment rate rose from 7.8% in '09 up to a staggering 10.0 in October of '09 down to the current level of 8.2 as of May '12.

To be perfectly fair, when you compare the official unemployment figures of both Romney and Obama, they show that whatever jobs Obama's policies may have created have not matched the number of jobs lost under his leadership. In Romney's case, whatever jobs his policies may have created were more than enough to compensate for the number of jobs lost under his leadership.

One absolutely credible source for the numbers on the Obama economy is the Department of Labor and you can confirm the Politifact figures there by plugging in the search parameters.

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 3:26:07 PM

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I guess my question is ... what do Obama's unemployment and job creation rates look like?

Opps, sorry to throw the cold water out there ...

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 3:43:47 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I guess my question is ... what do Obama's unemployment and job creation rates look like?

Opps, sorry to throw the cold water out there ...

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Already answered.

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 4:05:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: SadistDave

quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I guess my question is ... what do Obama's unemployment and job creation rates look like?

Opps, sorry to throw the cold water out there ...

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Already answered.

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Sorry, it was a FR to the OP.

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RE: Je pense, D'onc Je suis - 6/7/2012 4:48:14 PM

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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

I guess my question is ... what do Obama's unemployment and job creation rates look like?

The best in this century.

If the dumbass GOP would drop the austerity nonsense and get some money to the states to stop public sector layoffs we'd be looking at very good growth numbers overall.

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