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mnottertail -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/8/2012 1:45:58 PM)
The national review, the wall street journal, the washington post, and so on, but the corporations that own the top 20: 1. Time Warner Inc. 2. Walt Disney Company 3. Viacom Inc. 4. News Corporation 5. CBS Corporation 6. Cox Enterprises 7. NBC Universal 8. Gannett Company, Inc. 9. Clear Channel Communications Inc. 10. Advance Publications, Inc. 11. Tribune Company 12. McGraw-Hill Companies 13. Hearst Corporation 14. Washington Post Company 15. The New York Times Company 16. E.W. Scripps Co. 17. McClatchy Company 18. Thomson Corporation 19. Freedom Communications, Inc. 20. A&E Television Networks Looking at that list, its going to come in around a 50/50 split.

SternSkipper -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/8/2012 10:40:03 PM)
Letters and numbers in the same space... He probably thinks it's algebra.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/9/2012 9:58:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Are you not a liberal who switched sides because the republicans left you? Didn't you vote for Obama? So Fox is one of many networks, just because they have the highest ratings doesn't make them the ONLY source for news... Plenty of people around here cite MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, Huffington Post, Daily Koz, and The Daily Show... That's what? 9-1, or according to whiny liberals, the same total Walker outspent Barrett by. Now, if you didn't I apologize right here, right now, but if you did vote for Obama, no matter what your reasoning is, my including you in the you, is accurate, despite my statement being quite Clintonesque.[:-] It was you who asked the question, don't whine about the answer I gave you... You could have completely ignored my statement, and avoided this whole thing. Nope, I'm an independent who left the Republican party when it was sold to Falwell and his "Moral Majority". As for voting for Obama, don't you recall the convo we had recently where you were looking askance at me because I voted for "McStain" as you called him as you bragged about your write-in? I hope you have a better memory when you're in a firefight. You might have fired six shots and thought you only fired five and some punk might 'get lucky" Grow a brain and use it or I'll point you out as an example of the academy rejecting people that they deem as too intelligent.

subrob1967 -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/9/2012 10:37:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 Are you not a liberal who switched sides because the republicans left you? Didn't you vote for Obama? So Fox is one of many networks, just because they have the highest ratings doesn't make them the ONLY source for news... Plenty of people around here cite MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNBC, Huffington Post, Daily Koz, and The Daily Show... That's what? 9-1, or according to whiny liberals, the same total Walker outspent Barrett by. Now, if you didn't I apologize right here, right now, but if you did vote for Obama, no matter what your reasoning is, my including you in the you, is accurate, despite my statement being quite Clintonesque.[:-] It was you who asked the question, don't whine about the answer I gave you... You could have completely ignored my statement, and avoided this whole thing. Nope, I'm an independent who left the Republican party when it was sold to Falwell and his "Moral Majority". As for voting for Obama, don't you recall the convo we had recently where you were looking askance at me because I voted for "McStain" as you called him as you bragged about your write-in? I hope you have a better memory when you're in a firefight. You might have fired six shots and thought you only fired five and some punk might 'get lucky" Grow a brain and use it or I'll point you out as an example of the academy rejecting people that they deem as too intelligent. Yes I did forget, I apologize... I carry 15 not 6... This ain't Starsky & Hutch.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/9/2012 11:18:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Nope, I'm an independent who left the Republican party when it was sold to Falwell and his "Moral Majority". As for voting for Obama, don't you recall the convo we had recently where you were looking askance at me because I voted for "McStain" as you called him as you bragged about your write-in? I hope you have a better memory when you're in a firefight. You might have fired six shots and thought you only fired five and some punk might 'get lucky" Grow a brain and use it or I'll point you out as an example of the academy rejecting people that they deem as too intelligent. Yes I did forget, I apologize... I carry 15 not 6... This ain't Starsky & Hutch. Not starsky and Hutch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YKbxmrFbk

subrob1967 -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/9/2012 11:30:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Nope, I'm an independent who left the Republican party when it was sold to Falwell and his "Moral Majority". As for voting for Obama, don't you recall the convo we had recently where you were looking askance at me because I voted for "McStain" as you called him as you bragged about your write-in? I hope you have a better memory when you're in a firefight. You might have fired six shots and thought you only fired five and some punk might 'get lucky" Grow a brain and use it or I'll point you out as an example of the academy rejecting people that they deem as too intelligent. Yes I did forget, I apologize... I carry 15 not 6... This ain't Starsky & Hutch. Not starsky and Hutch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YKbxmrFbk I didn't need to watch the link to know it was Eastwood, I just happened to pull over a Red Dodge Neon with the S&H stripe tonight.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 6:44:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: subrob1967 quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam Not starsky and Hutch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7YKbxmrFbk I didn't need to watch the link to know it was Eastwood, I just happened to pull over a Red Dodge Neon with the S&H stripe tonight. If you get your hands on a 72 Torino at a stop with that paint, ya might want to have it taken in for further examination.

Winterapple -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 1:51:58 PM)
FR Mark Helprin pronounces that in a election either candidate could win or lose. I guess that's why they pay him the big bucks. And since his gossipy book that slagged the Clintons, the McCains and Elizabeth Edwards has sold pretty much all it's going to sell he needs to have another guareenteed supplier. Stating the obvious is always reliable. I think the Republicans who are seeing a landslide or even a victory for Mitt are like Democrats in 2004. They hate the sitting president, they believe most people hate the president, they cannot believe such a person could ever be re-elected. They blind themselves to their candidates obvious shortcomings and liabilities( Mitt and Kerry have some similar liabilities) because whatever they are they aren't as bad as that awful guy they are running against. And Mitt is the candidate because the party elders and the rank file chose him to be the candidate. And liberal media now brainwashes the discerning brains of right wingers and tea partiers? The right is well served by the media in this country. Fox, Wall Street Journal, talk radio and countless newspapers across this country. And that doesn't even go into the money that right wingers pour in on the state and local level. There are a great many middle if the road news outlets in the US. The networks, CNN, US Today, etc. but to the right because they don't pump out right wing propaganda exclusively and loudly they are pinko communist fronts. May the ghost of William F Buckley Jr protect the delicate sensibilities of the average right winger if he ever meets an actual leftist. Because if you think CBS and Obama are the left you're in for a jolt.

Lucylastic -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 2:00:09 PM)
Brilliant post WInterapple

FatDomDaddy -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 8:50:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Winterapple I think the Republicans who are seeing a landslide or even a victory for Mitt are like Democrats in 2004. Who is seeing that? The race hings on three states and everybody knows it... Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. Almost every Republican thinks thing the margin will be a lot more narrow than in 2008 and many think Romney just may have a chance. Where are you reading about Republicans seeing a landslide???

tazzygirl -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 9:01:38 PM)
Florida is in hot water... and Im surprised no one has mentioned that.

Musicmystery -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 9:02:29 PM)
quote: Who is seeing that? Several people posting here.

DarkSteven -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 9:03:33 PM)
FDD, I agree. I have read of three different predictions - narrow Obama victory, narrow Romney victory, and landslide Obama victory. Everything EXCEPT a Romney landslide.

TheHeretic -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 9:40:41 PM)
I'm not going to hunt it up, but in the interest of fairness, I have seen one bit of commentary that suggested a landslide for Romney could happen, but that was based on a speculation that the present administration will essentially suffer a meltdown. Just the one, though.

tazzygirl -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/10/2012 9:48:13 PM)
http://thehill.com/opinion/columnists/dick-morris/226221-a-romney-landslide http://www.libertarianrepublican.net/2012/06/root-strongly-backs-fellow-libertarian.html http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/04/26/romney_could_win_in_a_landslide

Winterapple -> RE: Time's Mark Halperin "Obama faces a grim new reality..." (6/11/2012 10:12:29 PM)
2004 came down to Ohio. I heard a republican this morning at breakfast say Obama was going to get his ass handed to him by Mitt. I've read online where Democrats are going to be in for a surprise come election day. So there are some landsliders out there, I don't say they are the majority of Republicans or the best informed but they do exist. I also said people who see a Mitt victory meaning one of any margin. I was comparing what I observe from many republicans now to similar things I observed in 2004 with democrats. I'll give you an example. On election day in 2004 a friend from San Francisco called me that morning after she had voted. She was elated and said tomorrow we'll have a new president. I had to be Debbie Downer and say that I didn't think so. It was coming down to Ohio and Bush was going to take it primarily because of social issues. Now in my partisan little heart I didn't want go believe this was true but certain blasts of cold air had been getting in during the weeks before election day. I was never that enthused with Kerry as a candidate but it was hard for me to believe Bush could be re-elected. I think for the most part democrats in 2004 like Kerry more than 2012 republicans like Mitt. I think they hate Obama more than they like Mitt. We'll see if that's enough for him to squeak a victory on. But in 2004 hate wasn't enough to defeat Bush. I have no idea which way Florida will go. I have family and friends in Florida and have spent a lot of time there from the panhandle to Key West. It is a very unpredictable place. As native son writer Carl Hiasson says it's the weirdest state in the union. We may not know til the precints start reporting on election night. Although, after the republican primary polls said Romney did very poorly with Hispanics and women in Florida. I think Obama can win Ohio. I don't know about Pennsylvannia. James Carville said when you leave the suburbs of Philly you're more or less in Alabama. And with no Palin on the ticket to drive moderate republican suburban women to vote democrat it could be a struggle. But not in the bag for Mitt by any means.

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