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Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/9/2012 6:03:37 PM)
This last week was wallstreet`s best week this year...... Is that good or bad......?

FirmhandKY -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/9/2012 6:40:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 This last week was wallstreet`s best week this year...... Is that good or bad......? Because Walker won, not because of anything Obama did. Oh, wait .... he threw Barrett under the bus .... I guess he might be partially responsible for it, after all. [:D] Firm

FirmhandKY -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/9/2012 6:43:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Odd how you are blinkered when pushed on your lack of knowledge. It was where you said the Sunni were the minority in Iraq. As always, in minority politics, many people claim what is best for them politically. However, the CIA fact book does classify the Shia as the majority in Iraq, and the Sunni as the minority. Firm

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/9/2012 10:09:42 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 This last week was wallstreet`s best week this year...... Is that good or bad......? Because Walker won, not because of anything Obama did. Oh, wait .... he threw Barrett under the bus .... I guess he might be partially responsible for it, after all. [:D] Firm Yes.....the private sector IS doing fine...... And no......Walker is NOT responsible for the sun rising......[:D]

kalikshama -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 7:33:24 AM)
ooo, love the new avatar! [image]http://www.collarme.com/photos/tn/tn_700364.jpg[/image]

FirmhandKY -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 7:50:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama ooo, love the new avatar! [image]http://www.collarme.com/photos/tn/tn_700364.jpg[/image] Here ... I've cropped and resized it perfectly for an avatar. [image]local://upfiles/51927/BF0C3CBC5695430298A712E748BB78E7.jpg[/image]

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 9:44:32 AM)
It`s best we let the adults handle the adult stuff(like the economy) and let the kids kid around and make jokes.......[:D]

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 9:50:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama ooo, love the new avatar! [image]http://www.collarme.com/photos/tn/tn_700364.jpg[/image] Had a few vains burst from our conservative friends when I had this one....... [image]http://rlv.zcache.com/sarah_palin_nope_postcard-p239801162025936854z85wg_400.jpg[/image]

kalikshama -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 10:11:06 AM)
I liked that too!

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 10:19:56 AM)
Had one desparate regular claim that that was a "sexist" image. Just after President Obama won his land-slide victory......that was an oucher.....[:D] Right rich?

Moonlightmaddnes -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 3:36:00 PM)
This board needs a thank you option. I laughed my ass off and I wanted to hit the thank you with some of these. I guess I will have to say well said.

Politesub53 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 4:09:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 Odd how you are blinkered when pushed on your lack of knowledge. It was where you said the Sunni were the minority in Iraq. As always, in minority politics, many people claim what is best for them politically. However, the CIA fact book does classify the Shia as the majority in Iraq, and the Sunni as the minority. Firm I misposted what Rob had claimed Rich, he said the Shia were the minority.

TheHeretic -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 5:48:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Yes.....the private sector IS doing fine...... No, Owner59, the private sector most certainly is NOT doing fine. A portion of problems in the public sector are a direct reflection of that. Bad policy, and bad deals, such as Governor Walker has been dealing with in Wisconsin are another bit, but for this, let's set that aside. The state and local governments have problems, because not enough money is coming in. But where does that money come from? Let's simplify for you, shall we Owner59? People who go out and earn money, pay taxes. People who own property, pay taxes on that. In most places in the US, when people go out and buy things, there is a tax on the sale. When people don't earn any money, they don't pay income tax. Now here in California, the property taxes are based on the value of the property, so when property values go to shit, guess what happens to the tax base? It goes to shit, too. Sales tax is a percentage of what is spent. When people spend less money, the government gets less taxes. See people back to work, and there will be less drain on those local resources as well. These public sector issues (separate from the pension bombs and bad deals) are a sympton of the crap economy, not the important part of the problem, as the President would seem to believe.

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 6:26:25 PM)
So when is mitt going to tell us his secret plan to fix the economy?[:D] Or do we have to elect him first?[8\|] And what about this? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html Notice the author......[X(]

tazzygirl -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 6:31:04 PM)
~FR Q What about the Republicans saying that you’re blaming the Europeans for the failures of your own policies? THE PRESIDENT: The truth of the matter is that, as I said, we’ve created 4.3 million jobs over the last 27 months, over 800,000 just this year alone. The private sector is doing fine. Where we’re seeing weaknesses in our economy have to do with state and local government -- oftentimes, cuts initiated by governors or mayors who are not getting the kind of help that they have in the past from the federal government and who don’t have the same kind of flexibility as the federal government in dealing with fewer revenues coming in. And so, if Republicans want to be helpful, if they really want to move forward and put people back to work, what they should be thinking about is, how do we help state and local governments and how do we help the construction industry. Because the recipes that they’re promoting are basically the kinds of policies that would add weakness to the economy, would result in further layoffs, would not provide relief in the housing market, and would result, I think most economists estimate, in lower growth and fewer jobs, not more. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/06/08/remarks-president

Owner59 -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 6:40:46 PM)
Tazz....as embarrassing and depressing as it is.......mitt`s job is to bash the president irregardless of reality,the good news or our improving lot and the poor loyal party dopes...........lol........have to carry the water.[:D]

tazzygirl -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 7:02:18 PM)
I often find it amusing how people can have a discussion on something someone said based upon a news clip and a 38 second ad.... lol.... my only purpose in posting was to give the actual question and Obama's response.

TheHeretic -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 7:35:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 And what about this? http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/19/opinion/19romney.html Notice the author......[X(] What about "Mitt Romney on the auto-bailout," Owner59? I've expressed similiar sentiments myself, here and there, and offered a few other ideas about what could be done better. Here on this thread, though, we are talking about the President's revealing remark.

TheHeretic -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 7:43:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl I often find it amusing how people can have a discussion on something someone said based upon a news clip and a 38 second ad.... lol.... my only purpose in posting was to give the actual question and Obama's response. Well, there is loads of comment out there, Tazzy, but the thing speaks for itself. Google offered up that clip, and the replay makes it easy to catch the little smirk he delivers his bomb with. Thanks for the full context. Now nobody can claim it was just evil Republican editing. [:)]

Musicmystery -> RE: President Obama says "The private sector is doing fine" (6/10/2012 8:01:57 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Yes.....the private sector IS doing fine...... No, Owner59, the private sector most certainly is NOT doing fine. A portion of problems in the public sector are a direct reflection of that. Bad policy, and bad deals, such as Governor Walker has been dealing with in Wisconsin are another bit, but for this, let's set that aside. The state and local governments have problems, because not enough money is coming in. But where does that money come from? Let's simplify for you, shall we Owner59? People who go out and earn money, pay taxes. People who own property, pay taxes on that. In most places in the US, when people go out and buy things, there is a tax on the sale. When people don't earn any money, they don't pay income tax. Now here in California, the property taxes are based on the value of the property, so when property values go to shit, guess what happens to the tax base? It goes to shit, too. Sales tax is a percentage of what is spent. When people spend less money, the government gets less taxes. See people back to work, and there will be less drain on those local resources as well. These public sector issues (separate from the pension bombs and bad deals) are a sympton of the crap economy, not the important part of the problem, as the President would seem to believe. 1) What does that have to do with the private sector? 2) Where do you suppose GDP is coming from? 3) California is a mess of its own making, and hardly representative of the nation.

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