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fucktoyprincess -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 7:14:14 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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"in a session can a slave tell a master to hit harder?"


A paid session? Sure! Although I would prefer to see "ask" rather than "tell."

Personally, I Green (as well as Yellow and Red.) It's a whip, not a crystal ball.


Oh, I hadn't considered a paid session when I answered earlier. Okay, yes, agreed. In a paid session I would think there is a different exchange that would be acceptable given the nature of the interaction to begin with.




littlewonder -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 8:14:36 PM)

I've requested it a few times but not many since I'm not a masochist but there were times when I would tell the man that I could take more and if he wanted to, he could hit me harder.

With Master, I don't have to ask. He usually hits me hard enough! [&:]

In a paid session? Of course I would! I'm paying for it! To me there's nothing Dom/sub there, just two people bottoming and topping and not much more and I'd want my money's worth.




Lucifyre -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 8:24:05 PM)

It's all about communication and delivery.
Even after as long as Mr and I have been together....well, scratch that...ESPECIALLY after as long as he and I have been a D/s couple, yes, I will in fact ask (sometimes yelling at him) to be hit harder. My hormone levels change frequently, some nights I can take a pretty brutal beating, other nights he barely touches my ass and I'm screaming and squirming begging him to stop NAOGODAMMITIMDYING!
He is incapable of reading my mind or feeling what I am feeling at any given moment. He has gotten quite good at reading my body and *usually* is able to "deliver" just what I need during a session. BUT, back to the not being able to read my mind thing...sometimes ya just gotta verbalize what your needs are at the moment. It's not an insult for me to ask him to hit me harder, in fact the way he views it is he is doing something pretty god damn right and my asking is essentially giving him the go ahead to get closer to where *he* wants to be.

Our relationship is a tangled web of a labarynth, we have been at it a very damn long time. I submit to him because it makes me feel amazing to give him pleasure. I do things for him that I don't like to do because he gets off on it. The fact that he is getting off gets me closer to getting off right with him (I am not just talking about orgasms btw, though those are nice) He dominates me because he gets pleasure out of giving me pleasure by giving me pain...and round and round it goes ;)
If I didn't have the ability to give him feedback even during the middle of a scene, in PLAIN FUCKING ENGLISH, we would never get anywhere. I would still be a silly little girl with a stupid ass fantasy straight out of a book and he would be a Twue Domly Dom and the D/s wouldn't work, we would go stomping off to our respective corners in a huff and the relationship would end because dammit he is supposed to fucking do everything RIGHT without me telling him what I need from him and I am supposed to use my Jedi Mind Reading Tricks to anticipate his needs and never simpley ask, or never simply converse with him.

Fuck, I was getting double fisted for the very first time Saturday (omg yummy yay go me!) and if I had not told the woman topping me to GO DEEPER DAMMIT, not only would we not have gotten to where we wanted to go, but she actually could have hurt me because of the way my body reacts to intense pleasure like that (clamp down, create anal fissure because widest part of hand is not in far enough).
These Dom/mes that get insulted by not allowing communication even sometimes of the "forceful" variety are frankly expecting too much of themselves. We are human, we are sexual beings, we enjoy giving each other pleasure...we are not mind readers. If your sub wants to be hit harder and tells you, don't get pissed off about it and hit too hard on purpose because You'll show them dammit...just do it and take pride in the fact that they want it from you and you're doin it right <3

Lucifyre

*the above are MY opinions and experience, if I have pissed you off by stating them...tough shit, have a nice big cup of get the fuck over it and a smile ;)




TNDommeK -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 9:14:19 PM)

It was never specified, if I remember correctly it just said "in a sessions can I ask my master to hit me harder". But good points everyone. I thought it would be interesting to ask.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 9:28:01 PM)

Ask me anything. Who knows what'll happen.




Pyramus -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/11/2012 10:49:24 PM)


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ORIGINAL: nancygirl34652

imo, a slave does not have the right to tell a Master to do anything...she has the right to make a request...


Begging is good.




Kana -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 8:01:49 AM)

Sure she could say that...but I have yet to find a gal dumb enough to actually utter the words :-)




BitaTruble -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 9:06:33 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana

Sure she could say that...but I have yet to find a gal dumb enough to actually utter the words :-)

So, I'm out at APEX (this was about oh.. 18 or so years ago. Before Himself and I hooked up) and I'm hanging with Whipmaster Bob and the gang and he's bragging on how hard he hits. Well, I'd been getting fairly regular beatings for about 10 years and my ass is made of kevlar so I challenged his prowess against my ass and him, being the nice guy he is, obliged and popped me on the ass.

He sorta missed. ::chuckles:: So, I pipe up.. "Geeze.. you hit like a girl."

He popped me on the ass again.. only he doesn't miss that time. He does NOT hit like a girl.

First and last time those words were ever uttered by me.

It's only dumb if you say it a second time. [;)]




graceadieu -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 9:07:58 AM)

I don't consider it my place (if he wanted to hit me harder he'd already be doing it), and I'm not really a masochist anyway, but I can't speak for anyone else. It really just depends on the people involved.




onlyfreelycaged -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 11:53:20 AM)

I have no problem asking for harder, or telling the person hitting me is a wimp or other insults because they really don't hit enough hard enough. I've never yet had it backfire, but for the most part I haven't played with those people again.
Currently, in my relationship I don't have a need to ask for harder. :D.




Deliena -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 2:15:39 PM)

I have had to ask for softer because I wanted to continue to play but things were too intense on one part of my body for example, can't remember ever asking for harder, but then the people I have had the fortune to play with have been very good at judging what works and doesn't work.




littlewonder -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/12/2012 3:56:28 PM)

Ohhhh...there have been times I begged and cried and everything else for Master to stop or hit me lighter lol. But as always, he's right in the end to not give me those requests because he knows what I need. Buuutt, there has been a moment or two when he gave into me due to certain reasons.




DesFIP -> RE: saw this in the journals (6/13/2012 6:59:22 AM)

It's just information. If she's getting over an illness and he fears that she can't play to her normal level, then why not say you can take more? But you can read that phrase "hit me harder" as either an order, a demand or begging.

I'm always allowed to tell him stuff. It may or may not change his plans. But during play, I'm not expected to start long conversations about things. A word or two is all I can manage.




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