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saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:16:50 PM   
TNDommeK


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Status: offline 		I was reading journals on the other side and saw this question:

"in a session can a slave tell a master to hit harder?"

Thoughts?



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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:17:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've had one do it. Along with one that told me "You hit like a girl"

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:18:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, sure, he/she can tell the person swinging the implement to hit harder but it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:30:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure they can, right before they scream out in agony realizing they didn't specify WHERE. And thus, realize topping from the bottom did not work as they had planned.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:37:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sure they can, but the how of it will determine whether they will get what they want or not. There's telling and there's asking. SAMs and brats will tease playfully in fun; and with a top that enjoys that kind of fun and play will get what they are after. The more controlling manipulation is not likely to get the desired results at least not around the people I know. Then there's just plain nicely asking the top if they will give you more and ramp it up more. I've done that in play to test my pain threshold before usually after having discussed going there before play ever started.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:38:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		imo, a slave does not have the right to tell a Master to do anything...she has the right to make a request...but has to realize that her request does not have to be honored.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:40:26 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Endivius

Sure they can, right before they scream out in agony realizing they didn't specify WHERE. And thus, realize topping from the bottom did not work as they had planned.



^^^This.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:43:04 PM   
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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:44:32 PM   
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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:53:32 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK


quote:

ORIGINAL: Endivius

Sure they can, right before they scream out in agony realizing they didn't specify WHERE. And thus, realize topping from the bottom did not work as they had planned.



^^^This.

wicked but true. imagine how that would work for soldiers questioning orders.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 3:58:39 PM   
mummyman321


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Status: offline 		Well I guess it really depends. If you are being a brat....then that comment may and probably will cost you. On the other hand, if its a new relationship and you really do not know the other's pain threshold, I can see it being okay to say I can take more. So I can see it both ways. You didn't give us enough background to make a fully imformed decision.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 4:04:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've known some newer couples that use the term "green" to indicate that the submissive is good and/or wants to go up a level.

I've known some pain sluts that have been made to beg to be hit harder.

But, I've never known anyone that just turned around and said, "Hit me harder" unless it was strictly a Top/bottom situation.

As for me, he's more of sadist than I am a masochist.....I can't imagine asking to be hit harder.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 4:31:52 PM   
DreamyLadySnow


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Status: offline 		After being told I hit like a girl, I said, oh you don't like that? Ok. And promptly sat down and had a drink.
Don't count on all the tops responding teh way you want.
If I was playing with someone new, I'd welcome the feedback, as long as they weren't telling what to do or attempting to manipulate me.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:09:07 PM   
MercTech


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Status: offline 		Ok.. saw the topic header and had this flash back to a plethora of bad fraternity movies.. it might work...

"Thank you sir, may I have another, harder, please?"

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:14:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think a lot of this depends on whether the session is you with your partner, or you in a pro session.  In a partner, a great deal relies on your relationship and how things work, which naturally tend to be different for everyone.  On the other hand, if you have on your "Pro hat" so to speak, you are being paid to provide a service, and I think the person paying does, depending on the agreements beforehand, to make the request.  It doesn't necessarily mean he/she will be happy he asked, but that is something else entirely.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:14:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Endivius

Sure they can, right before they scream out in agony realizing they didn't specify WHERE. And thus, realize topping from the bottom did not work as they had planned.

Yep. Have to go with this also

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:21:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		There have been times when I've wanted to be hit harder or more. I wouldn't be adverse to begging.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:26:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		In a session, I would say no, one can't really stop play to ask that. For many reasons.

But at some other time, especially in a new relationship where both people are still trying to figure each other out? I think that is quite different. Again, it depends on the relationship and the goals, but I think there is certainly a time and place to have the conversation of whether S&M play is at a level to make everyone involved happy. I have had one Dominant who seemed reluctant early on to go as far as he really needed to go for my tastes. One simple conversation, actually allayed concerns that he had, and we were then able to go where we needed to for both of us. To clarify, this was a situation where I was more experienced in a certain type of play than he was.

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 5:38:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK

I was reading journals on the other side and saw this question:

"in a session can a slave tell a master to hit harder?"

Thoughts?




Tell him he "hits like a girl".

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RE: saw this in the journals - 6/11/2012 6:27:11 PM   
kalikshama


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quote:

"in a session can a slave tell a master to hit harder?"


A paid session? Sure! Although I would prefer to see "ask" rather than "tell."

Personally, I Green (as well as Yellow and Red.) It's a whip, not a crystal ball.

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