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leatherorlace -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 3:12:55 PM)

Especially after he's had his way with Mothra. Cosiing species for ones libido's sake can lead to the horrible discovery that some critters consider a hard appendage a snackin' opportunity.
Gentry

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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

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What exactly is a hard limit?

Man I should just have a thread where I ask all my annoying questions lmao...


a hard limit is saying you will never give Godzilla head





BrattyBottomRN -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 3:33:43 PM)

LMMFAO




OsideGirl -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 3:34:03 PM)

Yep, for instance: heights are listed as a hard limit for me. It's not a sexual thing, but something that is there for my mental health. My personal belief is that unless you're a trained mental health professional, it's not your place to try and cure me of my phobias.

My soft limits are alwasy fluctuating. Everything in that category is negotiable. Some may end up going into the "hated it" category, but I'm at least willing to give it a shot.

There actually very few things in my hard limit list that relates to play other than: no poop, no pee unless you're my Master, no copious amounts of blood, no needles (phobia), no play that involves a gun...ever (and yes, there's a reason) and no staining my tan carpet. [:D]




leatherorlace -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 4:09:29 PM)

I, too will flog someones head with whatever's at hand if they try to cause Me fright whenever, I'm standing on something higher than a barstool, and no apology for blood letting will be forthcoming from Me. lol
  Play that would stain your tan carpet should be accomplished in a wetroom, bathroom or backyard where the grass needs watering. I sometimes combine My luv for anal play with a need to aid My girl in cleansing her bowel by emptying My bladder inside her lower bowel. she loves the sensation, I love the sensation and while lovin' the sensation we have to make sure that the play area isn't more than a few steps from the potty, and not over a carpeted area. heheheeee
  I had a fairly extensive exposure to Medical thingys so, I for one enjoy utilizing needles and quills on a girls breast, ears, labia and a few other areas that can support the practice. I hate needles Myself, and despite My having once been incharge of an Immunization Clinic, I never learned to enjoy the sticks of any sharp objects, but with some careful play, Ihave managed to change some girls minds about needleplay as a hard limit.
Gentry

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Yep, for instance: heights are listed as a hard limit for me. It's not a sexual thing, but something that is there for my mental health. My personal belief is that unless you're a trained mental health professional, it's not your place to try and cure me of my phobias.

My soft limits are alwasy fluctuating. Everything in that category is negotiable. Some may end up going into the "hated it" category, but I'm at least willing to give it a shot.

There actually very few things in my hard limit list that relates to play other than: no poop, no pee unless you're my Master, no copious amounts of blood, no needles (phobia), no play that involves a gun...ever (and yes, there's a reason) and no staining my tan carpet. [:D]




mellian -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 5:15:41 PM)

I seperate my limits by Hard Reds and Light Reds, with the light ones being things I do enjoy doing but may for the Domme anyway depending like punishment and such.I learnt that it is easier to state such then have the Domme guess some actual punishment that risk being hard limit, and also provide options of actual punishment then the fake kind which one would enjoy than not.

-mellian




michaelGA2 -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 9:45:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: maybemaybenot

I just want to add that Limits are not soley sexual/play. Limits also can include things such as not allowing your Dominant control over your religious practices or any decision making in regards to your professional life or any other area you do not wnt to give him control of. My profile mentions that "football is a hard limit.. if the game is on, you are not". That truley is a hard limit for me, among other things.

                   mbmbn


i have to say i totally agree with you on the "football" thing...but for me, it all sports that is a hard limit...also, anything set in an era older than i am is totally a hard limit, so's country, metal and rap. i could go on and on...but this is not about me.




xxmstrchasxx -> RE: Hard limits? (6/7/2006 10:16:25 PM)

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It's a measure of your hotness on a date ... how long you can keep that lump in your date's pants, while he watches you eat a something smothered in ranch dressing.


caitlyn,

That is funny LMAO

One time I watched this girl eat a chicken leg and got turned on, man she was damn good with that chicken leg ROFLMAO




becca333 -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 1:32:48 AM)

Hard limits rarely change, soft limits are negotiable.

The trouble is, things that terrify you or squick you out when you start in this world, gradually get more and more intriguing.  So one day you find yourself wanting to try activity X, just ONCE, just to see what it's like....

And then you love it, and you have to redefine your limits.  And reassess yourself, and your interactions.

It's all work, work, work.




becca333 -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 1:34:08 AM)

Oh, how lovely!  I'm a deviant now!




keme -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 2:13:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: caitlyn

It's a measure of your hotness on a date ... how long you can keep that lump in your date's pants, while he watches you eat a something smothered in ranch dressing.

OMG you are so twisted...lol... well done... but... LOUD BUZZER SOUND... ~winks~




keme -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 2:16:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

A 'hard limit' is a list of activities and/or conditions that a dominant-submissive gives their facilitating submissive dominant.

Think of it in the same context as instruction you give a masseuse, barber, car mechanic, or anyone you use to provide a service to you. For example, when you go to 'Jiffy Lube' when you complete your check list you tell them to change the oil, but do not change the air filter. You may need an the air filter, if you knew what it did you may really want the air filter; but you can't trust the mechanic since your daddy said NEVER get an air filter from 'Jiffy Lube' because it's a rip off.
~BOL~ ok ya'll are tripping me out... I think I should force myself to sleep and try to make sense when I make sense... but ya'll have me rolling tonight
At some point your car may not run as well as your neighbor's who has the same make/model and comparable miles, and you may wonder why your experience wasn't as good as theirs. The answer is you maintained your 'hard limits'; and never had a mechanic good enough and willing to take the time to discuss them and/or determine if they are in reality hindering the car's performance.





keme -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 2:20:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: leatherorlace

I, too will flog someones head with whatever's at hand if they try to cause Me fright whenever, I'm standing on something higher than a barstool, and no apology for blood letting will be forthcoming from Me. lol
  Play that would stain your tan carpet should be accomplished in a wetroom, bathroom or backyard where the grass needs watering. I sometimes combine My luv for anal play with a need to aid My girl in cleansing her bowel by emptying My bladder inside her lower bowel. she loves the sensation, I love the sensation and while lovin' the sensation we have to make sure that the play area isn't more than a few steps from the potty, and not over a carpeted area. heheheeee
  I had a fairly extensive exposure to Medical thingys so, I for one enjoy utilizing needles and quills on a girls breast, ears, labia and a few other areas that can support the practice. I hate needles Myself, and despite My having once been incharge of an Immunization Clinic, I never learned to enjoy the sticks of any sharp objects, but with some careful play, Ihave managed to change some girls minds about needleplay as a hard limit.
Gentry

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

Yep, for instance: heights are listed as a hard limit for me. It's not a sexual thing, but something that is there for my mental health. My personal belief is that unless you're a trained mental health professional, it's not your place to try and cure me of my phobias.

My soft limits are alwasy fluctuating. Everything in that category is negotiable. Some may end up going into the "hated it" category, but I'm at least willing to give it a shot.

There actually very few things in my hard limit list that relates to play other than: no poop, no pee unless you're my Master, no copious amounts of blood, no needles (phobia), no play that involves a gun...ever (and yes, there's a reason) and no staining my tan carpet. [:D]


THUD *head hits desk* ok red freaking red I am about to hard limit piddle myself. roflmao




feastie -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 3:12:35 AM)

The thing about limits is that you never know when you might develop a new one. 




irishbynature -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 3:58:50 AM)

What I've disliked in the past is when you tell a Dom..."Yo, hard limit!!!!" Yet, they continue to attempt to explore it, question you on it...after explaining yourself to the 9th! I'm not moaning about Doms really, but...........once you say, "Hard Limit" that should be it for the time being at least....? Right? If I had to say "HARD LIMIT" via email, text, or phone more than once....I'd kick them to the curb! [;)]
Smiles,
Irish
IBN





sharainks -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 4:26:01 AM)

irishbynature I've found the same thing.  It seems like once you've stated something is a hard limit that should be enough.  Somehow some doms read that as "for everyone but you."  For me a hard limit is will not go there, period, end of it.  Soft limits are things you have some give on, would be willing to change for the right one or in certain circumstances. For me hard ones are underage, animals, and poop.  Soft limits are things like canes that I have no interest in trying, scare me to death but might be willing to try with the right person.




catize -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 5:02:46 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

A 'hard limit' is a list of activities and/or conditions that a dominant-submissive gives their facilitating submissive dominant.

Think of it in the same context as instruction you give a masseuse, barber, car mechanic, or anyone you use to provide a service to you. For example, when you go to 'Jiffy Lube' when you complete your check list you tell them to change the oil, but do not change the air filter. You may need an the air filter, if you knew what it did you may really want the air filter; but you can't trust the mechanic since your daddy said NEVER get an air filter from 'Jiffy Lube' because it's a rip off.

At some point your car may not run as well as your neighbor's who has the same make/model and comparable miles, and you may wonder why your experience wasn't as good as theirs. The answer is you maintained your 'hard limits'; and never had a mechanic good enough and willing to take the time to discuss them and/or determine if they are in reality hindering the car's performance.


Your analogy is somewhat flawed.
A car needs an air filter to function properly.  However, in the context of D/s or M/s, we are talking about people. 
I would suggest that hard limits are those activities that will cause the submissive/slave damage rather than enhance their performance.
Your post seems to propose that the dominant knows better than the submissive what it is that he/she needs.  I maintain that many submissives, including myself, know themselves better than anyone else could. 
My hard limits are not frivolous or irrational; they are there for valid reasons.  I am able to live a full and happy life without them.
Things are replaceable; people are not. 




twicehappy -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 5:10:15 AM)

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ORIGINAL: leatherorlace

 horrible discovery that some critters consider a hard appendage a snackin' opportunity.


You mean they are not? Damn, this news going to be heart breaking for most of the subbies around here, probably quite a few Doms will be upset with this announcement as well. 




Mercnbeth -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 7:21:16 AM)

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Your post seems to propose that the dominant knows better than the submissive what it is that he/she needs.

 
No - I propose that a submissive should know and trust her dominant enough to know. I propose time, talk, experience, talk, time, experience, talk, and time versus the checklist mentality to address the issue of safety and limits. Of course this concept eliminates the possibility of a 'meet & beat' at a club, but it's a choice I prefer to follow and suggest.




sabswife -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 7:29:40 AM)

i have my hard limits... which are no chance in hell ever ask me to do it and i have soft limits where i am like.. i dont feel comfortable with that now but these are open to discussion down the road and open to a little pushing. 

at the same time-- some of my previous hard limits have turned into soft limits [:)] amazing how a person changes and grows with time and experience. all that is important to me is that my Dom respects all my hard limits until i say otherwise, and He does.




marieToo -> RE: Hard limits? (6/8/2006 7:50:43 AM)

Fast reply to the op:

what we think are hard limits, can sometimes be broken through as the relationship developes.  After you get to that crazy place where you'd nearly walk off a fucking bridge just to hear him say 'good girl', you would be amazed at what you end up doing.  [;)]

I have learned that the old addage 'never say never' applies,  no matter how much I think I could never do this or never do that.  I think alot depends on the skill of the dominant to get inside your head and take you to where he wants you.  Today maybe I think I cant do something, tomorrow maybe he shows me otherwise.




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