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Lockit -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 7:49:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: punisher440

FR

There is an old saying,if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs,the one the yelps is the one that got hit.Sounds like that was a nice sized rock.



Oh come on now... you are going to force him to go back and read it and see what the hell just happened. [;)]




Karmastic -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:04:02 PM)

oooops, nevermind, thought you were replying to me, or about me. were you, or was the FR about OP?

if you have something intelligent and constructive to say to me, then just say it. don't keep pussying around, showing up to seem to agree with the same person who was disagreeing with me last time you chimed in in another thread.




Lockit -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:09:31 PM)

Karmastic: there's another saying..

sycophant pussies can't think of original thoughts, so they latch on to any pack of wolves that will accept them. i think it's an old Serbian saying, and i'm paraphrasing a bit.

LOL Oh Karmastic...




Karmastic -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:18:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Karmastic: there's another saying..

sycophant pussies can't think of original thoughts, so they latch on to any pack of wolves that will accept them. i think it's an old Serbian saying, and i'm paraphrasing a bit.

LOL Oh Karmastic...

yes, but of course, ADULTS know to correct mistakes, while assholes try and show everyone else someone else mistakes ;)

translation = you're horribly insecure, and need to put others down to feel better about yourself. you're spamming the page refresh button, and can't wait to spew out your next round of hate and anger - saddening.

now, back to topic, before people of your ilk decided to hijack it with childish personal attacks.

OP, i've come to the conclusion that it's hard to respect someone's kink when they flash it in your face, and jump up and down and scream because you don't seem to wave the same color BDSM flag as them, with the accredited seal.

oh, and cue some other "sycophant" to glee in a perceived kill, that will just make the both of you seem even more childish and petty, like two little bullies we've all seen and laughed at.




Lockit -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:21:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: Lockit

Karmastic: there's another saying..

sycophant pussies can't think of original thoughts, so they latch on to any pack of wolves that will accept them. i think it's an old Serbian saying, and i'm paraphrasing a bit.

LOL Oh Karmastic...

yes, but of course, ADULTS know to correct mistakes, while assholes try and show everyone else someone else mistakes ;)

translation = you're horribly insecure, and need to put others down to feel better about yourself. you're spamming the page refresh button, and can't wait to spew out your next round of hate and anger - saddening.

now, back to topic, before people of your ilk decided to hijack it with childish personal attacks.

OP, i've come to the conclusion that it's hard to respect someone's kink when they flash it in your face, and jump up and down and scream because you don't seem to wave the same color BDSM flag as them, with the accredited seal.

oh, and cue some other "sycophant" to glee in a perceived kill, that will just make the both of you seem even more childish and petty, like two little bullies we've all seen and laughed at.




[:D][:D][:D] I am soooooooooo bad!




FemalecumLover -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:44:44 PM)


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

If you, in fact, respected everyone one here, you would ignore the replies
that do not actually pertain to the subject, and reply to some of the ones that have seriously discussed the subject.



That is exactly what happened
if you monitored I am discarding a lot of personal insults
and did not reply to every non-objective comment

but I am saying I respect KINKs as in D/s M/s
I did not say I respect fanatics and subjective insults

I am OBJECTIVE not a SAINT coz I AINT

Peace Out!




JstAnotherSub -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:49:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FemalecumLover


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ORIGINAL: JstAnotherSub

If you, in fact, respected everyone one here, you would ignore the replies
that do not actually pertain to the subject, and reply to some of the ones that have seriously discussed the subject.



That is exactly what happened
if you monitored I am discarding a lot of personal insults
and did not reply to every non-objective comment

but I am saying I respect KINKs as in D/s M/s
I did not say I respect fanatics and subjective insults

I am OBJECTIVE not a SAINT coz I AINT

Peace Out!

Well alrighty then. Like I said twas a great thread for a bit. I am sure it will disappear after the mods get a look at it though.

Have a good evening.




punisher440 -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 8:52:09 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

oooops, nevermind, thought you were replying to me, or about me. were you, or was the FR about OP?

if you have something intelligent and constructive to say to me, then just say it. don't keep pussying around, showing up to seem to agree with the same person who was disagreeing with me last time you chimed in in another thread.


I have kept silent over your continued bashing of me whenever I happen to agree with another poster.So it is me sucking up whenever i agree with another poster,but when you do it,it just shows your brilliance? What's good for the goose is good for the gander.I have managed to live almost 55 years without your approval,I think I can manage a few more.




OsideGirl -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 9:27:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

So, OP, you quoted an article that couldn't even get the origin of the definition of BDSM correct, and we're supposed to jump up and down?

(My other half just looked at Me and said, "ut oh, here it comes".)

The fact that you like to fuck in ways that might be different than the average person just ain't that great.  I honestly don't care what your particular kink is.  Having that kink, or even acting on it, doesn't get you kudos in My world.  It's laughable that you think that earns you respect in some way.

When you learn that how you fuck really isn't the tantamount of who you are as a man, THEN you might earn My respect.  Until then, you're just some horny fuck who doesn't see that sexual appetite isn't all that important.

And, yes, it does stand for Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism.  That D/s bullshit was added later by people whining about feeling left out.



Yeah, he seems to have missed that point earlier.

I also find it funny that he's praising the two people with no experience. Neither one knows how they would react if they walked into a room and confronted with a kink that horrifies them.....because they've never been in that situation. Until put into practice, it's just lip service.


i don't really know if you're talking about me or not, he did, as you called it, "praise" me.

i find it truly offense if you are talking about me. you have no idea what experience i have, and you incorrectly presume i haven't personally seen kinks that horrify me. under that circumstance, i knew to shut the fuck up.

if you're talking about me, then that's what you should do. if not, then please accept my apology in advance.

now, cut to the resident stalker troll to quote me saying i'm a noob. show us all you still have no clue what i'm about, and cannot fathom the concepts of modesty, privacy, and none of your fucking business what it is that i do, unless i want you to know that.

show us all how much your self loathing insecurity drives you to try and feel superior to someone who doesn't appear to pass your bar of accredited BDSM experience.





Wow......that's like saying "no offense" when you know you're about to say something offensive. I've tried to stay somewhat polite during your myriads of ramblings, but whatever. This post says way more about you, than it does anybody else.






Karmastic -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 9:33:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

So, OP, you quoted an article that couldn't even get the origin of the definition of BDSM correct, and we're supposed to jump up and down?

(My other half just looked at Me and said, "ut oh, here it comes".)

The fact that you like to fuck in ways that might be different than the average person just ain't that great.  I honestly don't care what your particular kink is.  Having that kink, or even acting on it, doesn't get you kudos in My world.  It's laughable that you think that earns you respect in some way.

When you learn that how you fuck really isn't the tantamount of who you are as a man, THEN you might earn My respect.  Until then, you're just some horny fuck who doesn't see that sexual appetite isn't all that important.

And, yes, it does stand for Bondage, Discipline, Sadism, and Masochism.  That D/s bullshit was added later by people whining about feeling left out.



Yeah, he seems to have missed that point earlier.

I also find it funny that he's praising the two people with no experience. Neither one knows how they would react if they walked into a room and confronted with a kink that horrifies them.....because they've never been in that situation. Until put into practice, it's just lip service.


i don't really know if you're talking about me or not, he did, as you called it, "praise" me.

i find it truly offense if you are talking about me. you have no idea what experience i have, and you incorrectly presume i haven't personally seen kinks that horrify me. under that circumstance, i knew to shut the fuck up.

if you're talking about me, then that's what you should do. if not, then please accept my apology in advance.

now, cut to the resident stalker troll to quote me saying i'm a noob. show us all you still have no clue what i'm about, and cannot fathom the concepts of modesty, privacy, and none of your fucking business what it is that i do, unless i want you to know that.

show us all how much your self loathing insecurity drives you to try and feel superior to someone who doesn't appear to pass your bar of accredited BDSM experience.





Wow......that's like saying "no offense" when you know you're about to say something offensive. I've tried to stay somewhat polite during your myriads of ramblings, but whatever. This post says way more about you, than it does anybody else.




no no no, i was very clear.

i most certainly do mean offense, if you were dismissively referring to me as someone who has no experience, and is only speaking theoretically about horrifying kinks.

and if you were not referring to me, then i do sincerely apologize.

that really doesn't say a lot about me, except that i call people when they make asinine assumptions about me.

now, you not answering whether you were referring to me, now that speaks volumes. i thought you were more honest and honorable, and can only now presume that were referring to me, since the OP only "praised me", as you put it. talk about yellow sensationalistic McCarhy (sp) guilt by association.

ps edit - oh, and it says about me, that i'm adult enough to simply admit when i made a mistake. and even apologize. but something tells me it's not needed here.




littlewonder -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 9:44:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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so far i think, when i've used the word "respect", it's as-in i try to respect people and treat them respectfully, even if i disagree with them, or they have some kink that's squicky for me. i.e., i respect their right to their kink. and, i treat them with the same respect (i hope) they show me.


Still disagree with you. I understand the way you are using it and using it in the same context that you are using it, I don't respect everyone respectfully even if I disagree with them. Some things that I disagree with will never ever be respected in any way whatsoever. I don't respect some people's kink and their "right" to it. There are some that squick me to the point that I morally find it wrong. The only reason I don't make a big hoohah about it is because I'd probably be chewed out and/or beat to a pulp for my moral views. And I don't care one tiny bit if anyone else respects my kink.

sigh.

you're kinda taking my concept to the extreme and then disagreeing, so let me be even more explicit.

i treat everyone with respect, and return the same level of respect they treat me with.

of course, if i think something is morally wrong, i usually speak up. and i certainly don't respect their kink (or whatever it is that i disdain). and i'm certainly not all pal-sy with people that i have disdain for.

but yeah, i guess we strongly disagree in that, for me, there's absolutely no reason and no gain (only loss) for me to be the initiator, to treat someone disrespectfully. in fact, spewing out that vitriol and anger is a loss - an unhealthy exercise.



We'll agree to disagree. I have no desire to hold every single person on the planet in high regard which is what respect means. I simply give them common courtesy. Like I said earlier, I can name on one hand the people who get respect from me.

But hey if you want to put every human being on the planet in high regard, be my guest.




Karmastic -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 9:48:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

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so far i think, when i've used the word "respect", it's as-in i try to respect people and treat them respectfully, even if i disagree with them, or they have some kink that's squicky for me. i.e., i respect their right to their kink. and, i treat them with the same respect (i hope) they show me.


Still disagree with you. I understand the way you are using it and using it in the same context that you are using it, I don't respect everyone respectfully even if I disagree with them. Some things that I disagree with will never ever be respected in any way whatsoever. I don't respect some people's kink and their "right" to it. There are some that squick me to the point that I morally find it wrong. The only reason I don't make a big hoohah about it is because I'd probably be chewed out and/or beat to a pulp for my moral views. And I don't care one tiny bit if anyone else respects my kink.

sigh.

you're kinda taking my concept to the extreme and then disagreeing, so let me be even more explicit.

i treat everyone with respect, and return the same level of respect they treat me with.

of course, if i think something is morally wrong, i usually speak up. and i certainly don't respect their kink (or whatever it is that i disdain). and i'm certainly not all pal-sy with people that i have disdain for.

but yeah, i guess we strongly disagree in that, for me, there's absolutely no reason and no gain (only loss) for me to be the initiator, to treat someone disrespectfully. in fact, spewing out that vitriol and anger is a loss - an unhealthy exercise.



We'll agree to disagree. I have no desire to hold every single person on the planet in high regard which is what respect means. I simply give them common courtesy. Like I said earlier, I can name on one hand the people who get respect from me.

But hey if you want to put every human being on the planet in high regard, be my guest.


yeah i think we have different concepts of respect, which is what i suspected before.

nice new avatar, peace out.




littlewonder -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 9:50:34 PM)

Noun:
A feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Verb:
Admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Synonyms:
noun. regard - esteem - reverence - deference - consideration
verb. honour - honor - esteem - regard - venerate - revere




LadyPact -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/22/2012 10:37:35 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic
you're right, and very well put too. i admire this post.

we can discuss this...

OP, i've come to the conclusion that it's hard to respect someone's kink when they flash it in your face, and jump up and down and scream because you don't seem to wave the same color BDSM flag as them, with the accredited seal.

or you can add your own on topic points, to get er rollin again.

The intended sarcasm doesn't change the point. That is true in some cases. There are various "flags". Some bedroom only Doms don't get respect because they engage in "part-time" BDSM. Tops aren't seen the same as Masters because they are only interested in play, rather than power exchange. BDSM folks will make rude cracks about Goreans or leather folks. Gay leather is more authentic than hetero leather. Plenty of Masters who aren't sadists or riggers will tell you that they are often seen differently.

And, I'll tell you, this is one of the obstacles that I had in My own life of kink. It's actually difficult for a leather person to see kinksters in the same way. It's hard to gain the respect of a Gorean man when you are a female Dominant. When I see tops who don't care about their craft or don't sterilize equipment, it bugs the shit out of Me. Lack of education about your kinks? Don't even get Me started.

It's not the kink that deserves the respect. How a person practices them might. What a person does plays a lot into that.




DeviantlyD -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/23/2012 12:51:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Jeff, you have to remember that you have done that work. Some people don't do that. You don't hear the term very often any more, but there is a certain category of folks who go to a BDSM club who are often known as "tourists". Meaning, they haven't been before and have no clue of what they will see when they get there. Mix tourists and edge players in the same space and you've got a chance of somebody freaking out.




That reminds me of the first time I ever played at a play party. I had intentions of being what you have called a "tourist".

"Oh no, I'll just watch!" Hahaha! Before the night was out, I had experienced being tied up and toyed with using a certain implement and I was buzzed. Apparently it isn't usual to go into sub space so easily as a newbie. Would you agree or disagree with that?




LadyPact -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/23/2012 9:19:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD
That reminds me of the first time I ever played at a play party. I had intentions of being what you have called a "tourist".

"Oh no, I'll just watch!" Hahaha! Before the night was out, I had experienced being tied up and toyed with using a certain implement and I was buzzed. Apparently it isn't usual to go into sub space so easily as a newbie. Would you agree or disagree with that?

It's hard to do an agree/disagree on this. I'd rather say it isn't uncommon. I think it relates a lot to how the person reacts to being in a non private situation and how much they allow themselves to get involved, try something new, or just slip into feeling the excitement.






ModTwentyOne -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/23/2012 10:15:53 AM)

Again, telling other people their post is off-topic is, in itself, off topic.  Use the REPORT button.

Arguing with someone about the way they are posting is off topic.  Use the REPORT button if you have a problem.

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OsideGirl -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/23/2012 11:25:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Karmastic

i most certainly do mean offense, if you were dismissively referring to me as someone who has no experience, and is only speaking theoretically about horrifying kinks.

and if you were not referring to me, then i do sincerely apologize.

that really doesn't say a lot about me, except that i call people when they make asinine assumptions about me.



Yeah, actually it does say a lot about you. You went on a tangent and you're not even sure if I was talking about you. The only thing missing was laying on the floor, while pounding your fists, kicking your feet and calling me poopie pants.

And if I wasn't talking about you, I'm supposed to let that hateful spewing go.

You said it like your apology ahead of time will make what you said disappear. It won't. So, fuck off.




OsideGirl -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/23/2012 11:27:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Noun:
A feeling of deep admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Verb:
Admire (someone or something) deeply, as a result of their abilities, qualities, or achievements.

Synonyms:
noun. regard - esteem - reverence - deference - consideration
verb. honour - honor - esteem - regard - venerate - revere


I'm with you. People confuse common courtesy with respect.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

It's not the kink that deserves the respect. How a person practices them might. What a person does plays a lot into that.

I think you nailed it LP.




OsideGirl -> RE: Kink With Respect (6/25/2012 9:02:49 AM)

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feel superior to someone who doesn't appear to pass your bar of accredited BDSM experience.


And for the record I have no issue with people that are inexperienced. What I have an issue with is people who are inexperienced and present themselves as having much more experience than they have.

The first is a position we've all been in. The second is lying.





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