joether
Posts: 5195
Joined: 7/24/2005
Status: offline
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: papassion
Probably some of that bitching has to do with the fact that Obama spent a hell of a lot more than Bush.
I'm just stunned sometimes the manner to which conservatives throw out facts and evidence on an issue, and instead go with falsehoods, lies, and crap told to them by the misinformation machines known as the conservative media. President Obama has had to spend more to get the country out of a recession that was (as of 2009) headed towards a depression. Its a well understood economics theory that states when demand drops off, the price for things will drop as well. Problem the country had in 2009 was a high supply by low demand. So the goverment stepped in and gave an artificial demand to the system, thereby allowing industries to cease the downward spiral and instead making inroads to recovery possible. Some industries even bounced back entirely towards the end of the 2010 end point for the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. This by the way, is the Ultra-Super-Dupper version of the events and facts. Oh trust me, it gets very complicated and complex (well and above the limited thinking conservatives seem to possess now adays). The important thing to realize from all that, is the country didnt listen to the Republicans who craved and desired a economic depression to befall this nation.
quote:
ORIGINAL: papassion
As I understand, if you don't buy health insurance you will get a 91 dollar "fine" from the IRS on your tax return, or 1% of your income. Whatever is more. Thats not bad. Since they can't exclude you for pre existing conditions, wait until you need hospital care and then buy it. See, now you can get into the "take advantage of the government club" like the welfare scammers do!
In 2014, the number is $285 or 1% of your income. In 2016 that number rises to $2,085/year or 2.5% of your income (which ever is more in both cases).
Welfare 'scammers' as you call them, account for less than 5% in most states, for those that make use of any number of state and federal 'welfare' programs. That means the OTHER 95% of persons actually have a legitimate reason(s) to obtain welfare. I help volunteer with such an organization. Trust me when I say, many of these people would never have thought they landed in their situation in a million years. Some of them really have some very serious problems to which the level of care is not enough. But they are good people. Willing to help others out, even though their help is limited. The grand majority of them would love to get a decent paying job and get out of the situation they now find themselves in. The remainder have so many problems its just not realistic for them to work at a full time job.
So, instead of listening to the conservative 'misinformation machine' all day, how about volunteering for an organization that helps those most likely on welfare? You just might find your views challenged against the stark reality presented to you. Then the question becomes, are you truly a selfish bastard or a compassionate citizen?
|
Supremes uphold individual insurance requirement. - 
Profile
.gif){kind=avatar}
New Messages
No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages
Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages
Locked w/o New Messages
Post New Thread