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Musicmystery -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 12:20:24 PM)

When you sit down to dinner alone, do you set several plates and take turns sitting in all the different chairs?




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 12:29:10 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

When you sit down to dinner alone, do you set several plates and take turns sitting in all the different chairs?


Ha Ha Ha




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 12:45:29 PM)

It matters to me if my views are on target.




Moonhead -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 1:28:51 PM)

Which of your posts above is that answering?
Maybe you should try quoting to help the rest of us follow your internal monologue.
[;)]




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 1:34:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

Which of your posts above is that answering?


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BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 3:15:21 PM)

Am I being polyanish? What troubles me is a comment that I believe one of the Supreme Court Justices said, If you don't like it, vote them out. If your standard is the lowest possible standard, you have no standards. This line of thinking likely originated with them. Such a low standard necessarily implies that the court is unwilling to uphold the constitution since low standards indicate a lack of willingness to accept constraint.




mnottertail -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 3:24:02 PM)

Yes, Pollyanna:

There is a Supreme Court.

The Constitution says that the legislature makes the law.  The Supreme Court has said, according to our constitution you make the law, if you don't like what your law means, change the fucking thing, it's YOUR job, not ours.  That isn't even a possibility of a legal interpretation or question, there is no grey area, Congress makes the l-a-w. 




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 3:30:24 PM)

I'm thinking, maybe it is all of the above.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 3:37:10 PM)

I'm thinking that the constitution is being thought of by the Supreme Court as bootstrap code. It started the machine going, but it is no longer relevant.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/6/2012 4:23:39 PM)

I thought we had a Constitution.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 2:58:12 AM)

Free market of ideas where all actors participate. Corporations are actors. Instead of constraint, fluidity.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 3:19:19 AM)

America 2.0

It is Constitutional in that it is consistent with an extrapolation, i.e. abstract version, of the Constitution. Pursuit of wealth for example is a key element. Participation is a key element. We are under going a paradigm shift. It is America 2.0.

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Instead of constraint, fluidity.


With the global financial crisis of 2007 the idea of an unconstrained free market as something that works was discredited, however.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 3:52:24 AM)

What caused the collapse of the Constitution? It may have been gridlock since it is my impression that the absence of sustained gridlock is a presupposition made by the Constitution. Who is the most responsible for this gridlock? The Republican party. This would have served as motivation for the Supreme Court to look for other ways of thinking that could circumvent the clot.




SilverMark -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 3:53:26 AM)

BM, do you always have these long conversations with yourself?...In my absence, this is new to me....




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:04:55 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

BM, do you always have these long conversations with yourself?


It is called argument.




SilverMark -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:06:13 AM)

Must be an internal conflict?




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:22:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Must be an internal conflict?


You cannot reason in the absence of conflict. The conflict is, What is the truth? or stated another way Which is the truth? What is the solution? or stated another way Which is the solution?




Moonhead -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:29:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Must be an internal conflict?


You cannot reason in the absence of conflict. The conflict is, What is the truth? or stated another way Which is the truth? What is the solution? or stated another way Which is the solution?

Not actually true. There's other ways of reasoning than thesis antithesis and synthesis.




BenevolentM -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:32:15 AM)

SilverMark what you are saying is you do not spend much time thinking; hence, the process of thinking is unfamiliar to you. I am thinking whereas you are not. You are in good company because most of the world falls in that category. Most people do not think.




Moonhead -> RE: Affordable Care Act and Its Implementation (7/7/2012 4:33:29 AM)

"Here it comes it goes 'snark!' now..."
Hawkwind.




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