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Sanity -> CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 7:35:38 AM)
Gee, I thought socialist programs (such as single payer health insurance) were supposed to be cost efficient and "all that" as they say Even pull a nation out of deficits and make money So, explain whats happening in France, and several of these other similar socialist slices of heaven such as Greece, and Spain, and so on quote: Having been in power for less than two months Francois Hollande is facing the first major test of his pro-growth election commitments after a warning from the national audit office that France’s economy is in the “danger zone” and risks falling into a “debt spiral.” ...In order to bring the budget in-line with EU rules, Hollande is going to have to make difficult decisions on spending and taxes that could draw criticism from his own party and unions who supported the pro-growth message that saw him beat Nicolas Sarkozy to the presidency in May. http://www.cnbc.com/id/48054565 Mmm. "Debt spiral" That sounds ominous... Sounds like whats happening here

mnottertail -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 7:40:12 AM)
and we arent socialist. No, they had their own versions of our republican borrow and spend, their sack is not as big as ours, so they are caught first.

MasterG2kTR -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 9:55:56 AM)
Please point out where in that article does it say ANYTHING about their health care system being the cause of any of the problems?

Hillwilliam -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 10:32:27 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterG2kTR Please point out where in that article does it say ANYTHING about their health care system being the cause of any of the problems? Has that ever stopped him from adding 1 + 1 to obtain 32.695?

Owner59 -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 10:50:58 AM)
Ummmmm....the global downturn is why EVERYONE, including governments, are having financial problems...... Nothing to do with social programs...... And tho cons may feel differently,most decent folks aren`t going to let the poor and sick languish when times are hard. Don`t worry tho.......soon we`ll be cutting welfare to corporations ,millionaire/billionaires and other various 1%ers.

Lucylastic -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 1:07:31 PM)
As nobody has claimed what you assert Thomas, another post to be treated as baiting

DesideriScuri -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 2:58:46 PM)
And, shall we not forget the docile acceptance of draconian austerity Sarkozy tried to implement a year ago. He dared to impose a 2 year extension on when a person could retire?!? WTF is that?!?!?!? Who in the world would even think for a moment that you can still work until you're 62? Sarkozy was such a greedy swine.

Lucylastic -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/3/2012 3:03:34 PM)
please use an emoticon to denote sarcasm....otherwise... I might take you seriously[;)]

Sanity -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 3:09:49 PM)
quote: France: (The Hated Rich) Ready to jump ship Growing anxiety at moves to raise taxes on the rich reflects broader divisions over the Socialist government’s Who thinks the situation in France is going to improve any time soon, with rabid and unapologetic socialists once again in charge there

Edwynn -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 4:13:34 PM)
Who knows when the "rabid socialists" in Germany, Austria, Sweden, The Netherlands, Norway, Denmark, Australia, etc. realize that the rabid profit-grabbing of the US healthcare system, highest cost healthcare system in the world by more than 50%, is the best way to go, in disregard to their much more cost-efficient healthcare systems?? Who knows when rabid people of any sort will rise up against more cost-efficient healthcare systems? Oh! I think we see the answer, just in the OP. More to the insurance companies, yes, no doubt. That's the way. Hiring more people to make every effort to deny claims and do market studies, etc. except that's all done in India now. What were you saying, boy? How's that 'smart phone' thing working out? made you a genius, has it? No matter how much you pay ... Not paying off here, is it?

Sanity -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 5:35:01 PM)
You really put the "rabid socialist" in rabid socialist, dont you [:D]

Edwynn -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 6:23:59 PM)
The term was all yours. Own it, boy.

Edwynn -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 6:35:17 PM)
It doesn't even suck, to you, how wrong you are, because the most basic math to prove how wrong you are is beyond you. Again, have fun with that 'smart' phone. My nephew runs circles around you with that thing. Just had breakfast yesterday with him, he showed continuous detail from his visit to the Atlanta aquarium, and showed it to me exactly where else he broadcast it to. He changed speed as to between me, another sister, (his aunt) and an Usher's Syndrome uncle, all on the fly. Pretty good for a fifteen yr. old., even if something you have no hope to keep up with. As if you had any clue how to do that. His mom paid much less than you did, with a serious hard case included to top it off. Sucks to be you, huh? Have anything more to post? Since making yourself a complete ass seems to be so enjoyable?

Sanity -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 7:01:20 PM)
[sm=rantint.gif] Obsessive much, Edwynn? Wow... As if you have the first clue how much my Blackberry costs me, or if its required that I carry it as a part of my job... Or how I use it, or how much I care about your nephew... I will give you this though. Your endless crazed rants about someones cell phone usage, who you dont even know, are somewhat entertaining I find that an insane person raging on and on about nothing usually is quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn It doesn't even suck, to you, how wrong you are, because the most basic math to prove how wrong you are is beyond you. Again, have fun with that 'smart' phone. My nephew runs circles around you with that thing. Just had breakfast yesterday with him, he showed continuous detail from his visit to the Atlanta aquarium, and showed it to me exactly where else he broadcast it to. He changed speed as to between me, another sister, (his aunt) and an Usher's Syndrome uncle, all on the fly. Pretty good for a fifteen yr. old., even if something you have no hope to keep up with. As if you had any clue how to do that. His mom paid much less than you did, with a serious hard case included to top it off. Sucks to be you, huh? Have anything more to post? Since making yourself a complete ass seems to be so enjoyable?

Edwynn -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/4/2012 7:24:55 PM)
You are telling us here that you actually understand all the uses of such a phone, then? Am I "obsessive" in paying $9.95 for a phone that even has texting ability? (which I have no use for). I tossed the cell phone a month ago, never knew why I got one. I'll still probably get another one next month. It's not me being obsessive, it's the world. If you are a teenager, or a business person with a particular use for it, then all understood. My sister pays the baggage to keep up where her son and daughter are, at relatively bottom prices. Worth it to her. It's a different world when mom has at least the the potential to make the kids use the cell cam to prove where they are, innit? Never thought of that, did you? I didn't bring that point up to my unaware sister, either. How the world changes. Glad that crap wasn't around in my day, all I can say. If you ever grew up, not any of this would be a concern to you. This wouldn't be a concern for me for at least thirty years, but I realize that some might have more concern than others, especially in your case. All you have to do is post. Anything.

DesideriScuri -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/5/2012 4:39:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Edwynn You are telling us here that you actually understand all the uses of such a phone, then? Am I "obsessive" in paying $9.95 for a phone that even has texting ability? (which I have no use for). I tossed the cell phone a month ago, never knew why I got one. I'll still probably get another one next month. It's not me being obsessive, it's the world. If you are a teenager, or a business person with a particular use for it, then all understood. My sister pays the baggage to keep up where her son and daughter are, at relatively bottom prices. Worth it to her. It's a different world when mom has at least the the potential to make the kids use the cell cam to prove where they are, innit? Never thought of that, did you? I didn't bring that point up to my unaware sister, either. How the world changes. Glad that crap wasn't around in my day, all I can say. If you ever grew up, not any of this would be a concern to you. This wouldn't be a concern for me for at least thirty years, but I realize that some might have more concern than others, especially in your case. All you have to do is post. Anything. Dude, get off the phone kick. Instead of idiotic cell phone usage rantings, obliterate his ideas and assertions. Consistently and insistently railing at the guy and, in effect, calling him an idiot, is beyond ridiculous. You haven't proven anything except that you have a 15 year old relative that knows his phone like the back of his hand. Impressive as that is, it does nothing for this discussion. And, let's keep it to a discussion, and not a personal vendetta, k?

Edwynn -> RE: CNBC: France Faces Major Test (7/5/2012 5:26:40 AM)
In the first place, I never used the term "idiot," that's all yours. After you get through that, you might get to understanding the distinction and the difference between an ongoing onslaught from one poster attacking an entire class of society, and the various and sundry respondent posters' response to it. The 'smart phone' thing was all his, however much he wishes to disown that now. Aside from that, I had a great time with the nephew and niece yesterday. The boy kept pestering me to arm wrestle, and I chickened out the first three 'requests,' because he has gotten so big! I have always been a skinny fellow, the runt of the litter, out of eight kids. I finally thought, "well, gotta let the kid have what he wants, just be a good uncle and shut up, TYVM." I knew I would win, actually, but he likes drama, so I played it that way. He is already bigger than I am (if not yet quite as tall), but he astutely noted that the outcome was due to my greater experience, his exact words, in fact. I told you the kid is sharp. Not to mention perceptive and very well spoken. I told him (afterwards) to pull directly to himself first, extending the other guy's reach, where the other guy now has less leverage and you have greater leverage for the ultimately necessary side pull. I never even knew that I knew that until I explained it to him. That's what kids are for, to let us know what we didn't know we knew. With out even trying, rather from just idle conversation, I talked the nephew out of taking Spanish and instead taking French next year in school, and his younger sister into taking German when she gets to that stage. (It should be understood, however, that there is no such thing as "idle" conversation with me). Don't ask me how I do this with kids I only see once a year. Sorry, apologies, etc. in nattering on about them, but the once-in-a-year thing was just yesterday. I'll get over it. Sorry to trouble others with it.

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