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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

the grownups... lmao... now that is hilarious.

http://tiberi.house.gov/UploadedFiles/IRS_Power_Report.pdf

COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
The Wrong Prescription:
Democrats’ Health Overhaul
Dangerously Expands IRS
Authority

IRS EXPANSION
Although it is impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire
to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill, the
IRS’s own data, plus reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities as
described below, suggest that the number of additional examiners, agents, and other
employees could reach 16,500.

First, assume that the IRS budget would grow by the $10 billion that CBO indicates could be
necessary. 10 While there might be some early-year start-up costs to prepare for the added
workload, most of the costs would accrue in the last six years of CBO’s ten-year budget window,
when the individual mandate and other provisions, which present the bulk of the new
enforcement responsibilities, take effect. Thus, for this analysis, assume that $1 billion total will
be spent by the IRS in the first four years to prepare for the mandate with the spending increasing
to $1.5 billion per year in each of the last six years. 11



Face it.. the news you want to so blatantly push into our faces on this thread is years old. The fact that your 'man' is too stupid to realize it makes it even more humorous.

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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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The point is more, people will resent the left over this every April 15th, Comrade Vincent

"I'd really like to see Mitt Romney release more than one year of tax records because there's been disturbing reports recently that he's got a ... secretive Bermuda corporation that no one knows anything about, investment in the Caymans," Wasserman Schultz said. "Americans need to ask themselves: why does an American businessman need a Swiss bank account, and secretive investments like that?"

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Do you deny that we will be reporting compliance with the new Obamacare demands on our tax returns

How do you think compliance will be enforced. The compliance fairy, perhaps

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Mostly False....

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2010/mar/29/mark-kirk/kirk-says-health-care-bill-will-lead-irs-hire-more/

Do you really think it takes 16,500 people to handle a few calculations for maybe 3 million tax payers?

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Damn taz - you go! I love how youre backing me up here, girl!

Keep putting up those links!!!

About time you switched sides.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

the grownups... lmao... now that is hilarious.

http://tiberi.house.gov/UploadedFiles/IRS_Power_Report.pdf

COMMITTEE ON WAYS AND MEANS
The Wrong Prescription:
Democrats’ Health Overhaul
Dangerously Expands IRS
Authority

IRS EXPANSION
Although it is impossible to know exactly how many new employees the IRS would have to hire
to enforce the individual mandate and other provisions of the Democrats’ health care bill, the
IRS’s own data, plus reasonable assumptions about costs and program responsibilities as
described below, suggest that the number of additional examiners, agents, and other
employees could reach 16,500.

First, assume that the IRS budget would grow by the $10 billion that CBO indicates could be
necessary. 10 While there might be some early-year start-up costs to prepare for the added
workload, most of the costs would accrue in the last six years of CBO’s ten-year budget window,
when the individual mandate and other provisions, which present the bulk of the new
enforcement responsibilities, take effect. Thus, for this analysis, assume that $1 billion total will
be spent by the IRS in the first four years to prepare for the mandate with the spending increasing
to $1.5 billion per year in each of the last six years. 11



Face it.. the news you want to so blatantly push into our faces on this thread is years old. The fact that your 'man' is too stupid to realize it makes it even more humorous.

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May not be quite the Gestapo

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
Damn Sanity, I give you a compliment about being smart, and you prove me wrong.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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May not be quite the Gestapo

You think?

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No I did not.. I pointed out that that was the Republican report. Honestly, hon, get some glasses, or, get your eyes checked. You really need to understand what you are reading.

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Tell me how you think average people currently view the IRS.

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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

People grumble, of course, and I think folks project a lot of their discontent with government/taxes in general onto the IRS. But I don't think anyone with a working brain confuses the agency with, dear God, the Gestapo.

To be honest, I'm surprised a public servant, even a Republican, would make such an inflammatory and irresponsible comparison.

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ORIGINAL: SilverMark

Governor Romney is a strong supporter of the PATRIOT Act, and the expanded powers given to the government for homeland security purposes. He supports the use of Guantanamo Bay for holding detainees, supports military tribunals, and opposes habeas corpus rights for detainees and civilian trials for terrorists. He has also expressed support for extraordinary rendition.

At a campaign event in 2007, Governor Romney stated that he supported enhanced interrogation techniques in a "ticking time bomb" scenario, but that he was opposed to torture. He praised President Bush for the passage of the PATRIOT Act, for the pursuit of wiretapping calls made by possible terrorists, and for interrogating prisoners.

During the New Hampshire Debate, Governor Romney was asked about previous statements that he believed mosques should be wiretapped if a credible threat existed. He reiterated this stance, but noted a judge's approval would be required. He stated that while he hears people worry about encroachment on civil liberties, he believes that the most important civil liberty that government can provide is to keep it's citizens alive.

"At a 2009 policy speech, Governor Romney lamented the possibility that CIA interrogators would be investigated over possible violations. He stated that there were times when other countries helped us out by allowing us to have prisoners interrogated there. Investigations into those actions only weakens trust in the US and may lead to nations refusing these extraordinary renditions in the future.

As part of his 2012 campaign, Governor Romney issued a white paper on foreign policy. In that document, he outlined a vision of the world that had the US under constant assault from all sides, and noted that the military and other tools of the government needed to be adjust to accomodate those threats. He advocated for restructuring the DHS, for focusing on domestic radicalization, and for updating the authorization for the use of force to include new terrorist entities and new countries.

In 2012, Governor Romney stated in a debate that he would have signed the 2012 National Defese Authorization Act. That legislation gave the President the authorization to arrest and indefinitely detain US citizens who are suspected on being allied with al-Qaeda."


Yep, sure hate the fact that Obama is strong on Homeland Defense....but you support Romney?
http://www.thepoliticalguide.com/Profiles/Governor/Massachusetts/Mitt_Romney/Views/Homeland_Security/

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ORIGINAL: Sanity
Now they want to control our health care decisions, and use the IRS as a part of their effort to do so

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ORIGINAL: SadistDave

It doesn't matter what anyone says or how much evidence there is. Libs don't even believe you when you have the words coming straight from their Dear Leaders mouth. Any bets on which one will be the first to say the following video is being taken out of context?

Whether or not the IRS will be Obummers Gestapo or not, we know by his own words that he wants one.

16,500 extra Treasury agents whose only purpose will be to fine and/or imprison citizens would definitely be a step in that direction.

-SD-