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Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/10/2012 10:47:46 PM   
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What kind of a horrible person would have foreign bank accounts

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"It would be nice if we had a candidate for president who was committed to America. Mitt Romney is committed to making sure that either he makes the most money as humanly possible, or his investors do. And that's evidenced by his track record in shipping jobs overseas and making sure that he has investments that we don't know why he invested in offshore accounts. But most folks that I know, they make their investments in a bank in America, most American business men invest here and if you're running for president, that certainly should be your commitment."

Democrat Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz



Hold on - could the person quoted above possibly be the same person who...

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...previously held funds with investments in Swiss banks, foreign drug companies, and the state bank of India. This revelation comes mere days after the Democratic chair attacked presumptive Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney for holding money in Swiss bank accounts in the past.


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So, she is another flaming far left hypocrite? Say it aint so...








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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 2:41:00 AM   
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You really should read your own articles fully, Sanity. Just saying....

"But disclosure forms reveal that in 2010, Wasserman Schultz invested between $1,001-$15,000 in a 401k retirement fund run by Davis Financial Fund. As the fund discloses, it is invested in the Julius Baer Group Ltd. and the State Bank of India GDR Ltd., as well as other financial, insurance, bank institutions."

That's from your second source. She invested money into a retirement fund run by some organization that took the money and invested it elsewhere. The Davis Financial Fund, as a whole has investments worldwide. Yet, there is no direct link that shows Miss Schultz directed the investments specifically to those areas (foreign companies). You and the writers of that article (not to mention the horde of ignorant conservatives) are smiply making an arguement that doesnt exist in reality.

"Similarly, according to disclosure forms from 2004, Wasserman Schultz had holdings in the Fidelity Advisor Overseas Fund. That fund is invested in HSBC bank (a British financial institution), Hengdeli Holdings (a Hong Kong watch company), Novo Nordisk (a Danish drug company), Volkswagen (a German auto company), Rakuten (a Japanese shipping business), Richemont Cie Financiere (a Swiss luxury goods company), and many others."

Again, from your second source.

The Fidelity Advisor Overseas Fund places investments where they think will do the most good (NOT the investor). Those that invest into it do *NOT* have a say in how that specific fund invests its money. They can opt out of the fun and place their money elsewhere. Of course, the question from the two things above is: Did Miss Schultz manage her money directly or simply let someone else do the investing (Like a Certified Financial Planner, or CFP)? You have to show the burden of evidence that Miss Schultz did the directing, not the broker/CFP.

Now than, is she a hypocrit? Only if she were running for the White House (which is what your whole arguement is based on). Besides which, her investments are a petty amount compare to Mitt Romney's (even if she directly directed the money to foreign markets). Its like carting an 11 year old off to jail for a lemonade stand without permits while allowing the resturant down the street to operate without permits. If your going to hold the 11 year old accountible, but not the resturant owner, what does that say of your ability to make a fair arguement? But there isnt anything in EITHER of your two sources that states directly, that Miss Schultz invested into foreign markets/companies. That is a FACT. Mr. Romney however, is confirmed to have invested directly (by his own accord/direction) into foreign markets.



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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 3:03:59 AM   
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Sanity, youre on a roll at present. its just a shame its all downhill from here on.

The first two threads I have read today have been started by you, both showing a total lack of the knowledge on your chosen topic.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 3:09:51 AM   
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Sanity, youre on a roll at present. its just a shame its all downhill from here on.

The first two threads I have read today have been started by you, both showing a total lack of the knowledge on your chosen topic.


I've observed since getting on this forum that 'Facts' and 'Evidence' are never Sanity's strong suit. Nor is 'wisdom' something he seems to want. Which in discussions about philosophy, politics and religion would be a VERY good thing to have alot of, right?

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 3:23:53 AM   
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I agree an understanding of how investments actually work would have been helpful.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 6:48:27 AM   
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The funny part.......starts when Mittens goes into his boiler-plate Europe bashing talking points........ that cons gobble up like deep-fried dough at their county fares.


So Miittens is afraid of "America turning into" the place where he invests his millions of dollars........


See?


That`s where it gets funny......


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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 10:16:43 AM   
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I understand well enough...

I understand, that youve found your usual justifications for standing behind your ever present far left double standard. If Wasserman Schulz has had money invested in foreign accounts at any time, and in any manner, what right does she have to run her yapper period?

It is absolutely a stupid move on her part, but typical nonetheless.

I also understand that a typical symptom of the leftist mental disorder is their constant over reliance on personal attacks in any given debate, as opposed to addressing facts or logic. Case in point, most all of your political posts over time (especially humorous that you make what you probably believe to be "vicious" attacks while referring to yourself as "Polite" ). Another great example of that particular symptom would be the lefts (Obamas) rabid personal attacks against Romney over Bain, despite said TELEVISED attacks having been proven to be serial lies


Our president couldnt be any more of an ass, but at least it makes great theater


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I agree an understanding of how investments actually work would have been helpful.





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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 10:20:57 AM   
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Hey, try some logic, Sanity, you havent done it yet.

Even GM has overseas divisions, the good old apple pie IBM, Harley Davidson, Apple, and so on.

That does not equate to offshore accounts to avoid US taxes, as Romney does (whos family has a long standing  history of running amok as scofflaws in this country)

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 10:26:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

I also understand that a typical symptom of the leftist mental disorder is their constant over reliance on personal attacks in any given debate, as opposed to addressing facts or logic. Case in point, most all of your political posts over time (especially humorous that you make what you probably believe to be "vicious" attacks while referring to yourself as "Polite" ).


Let me know when I sink to your level of sending abussive Cmails. Until then, Moonie and I can laugh at you thinking Thatcher was far left.

I love your idea of facts, Its just a shame you fall for all the bullshit you post on here, and get arsey because no one falls for it.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 6:08:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What kind of a horrible person would have foreign bank accounts


Hold on...it's coming to me....wait a sec...I almost have it....

Oh yeah, now I remember....someone who has a fuckload of money who's fairly convinced the shit is imminently to hit the fan....so he's covering his ass.

And you...what are you doing to prepare?

Bitching?

Good plan....let me know how that works for you in 2 years or so.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 6:10:03 PM   
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Sanity, you're on a roll at present. its just a shame its all downhill.

The first two threads I have read today have been started by you, both showing a total lack of the knowledge on your chosen topic.



(Big surprise).

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 6:33:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I understand well enough...

I understand, that youve found your usual justifications for standing behind your ever present far left double standard. If Wasserman Schulz has had money invested in foreign accounts at any time, and in any manner, what right does she have to run her yapper period?

It is absolutely a stupid move on her part, but typical nonetheless.

I also understand that a typical symptom of the leftist mental disorder is their constant over reliance on personal attacks in any given debate, as opposed to addressing facts or logic. Case in point, most all of your political posts over time (especially humorous that you make what you probably believe to be "vicious" attacks while referring to yourself as "Polite" ). Another great example of that particular symptom would be the lefts (Obamas) rabid personal attacks against Romney over Bain, despite said TELEVISED attacks having been proven to be serial lies


Our president couldnt be any more of an ass, but at least it makes great theater


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

I agree an understanding of how investments actually work would have been helpful.



Even an attempt to equate the two is no longer even funny, it's insecurity beyond a mere attempt to smear a dem and an obvious lack of objective reasoning...and you know it.

Say your mutual fund without your knowledge, bought shares in a Spanish whorehouse. That would make you a pimp.

It ranks as about the most mendacious of your posts, an avoidance of the simple fact that Romney is a ruthless, vulture capitalist and didn't and still doesn't give a fuck about anybody involved but just his profits and how little taxes he'd have to pay actually avoiding them being offshore in the first place.

Now there's a real job creator [sic] and a patriot to boot. How in the hell can this country take anymore of the repub (capitalist) party is beyond me.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/11/2012 7:20:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What kind of a horrible person would have foreign bank accounts


Hold on...it's coming to me....wait a sec...I almost have it....

Oh yeah, now I remember....someone who has a fuckload of money who's fairly convinced the shit is imminently to hit the fan....so he's covering his ass.

And you...what are you doing to prepare?

Bitching?

Good plan....let me know how that works for you in 2 years or so.

No more calls, please...we have a winner.

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RE: Foreign Bank Accounts?!?!?! - 7/12/2012 6:23:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


quote:

ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie


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ORIGINAL: Sanity

What kind of a horrible person would have foreign bank accounts


Hold on...it's coming to me....wait a sec...I almost have it....

Oh yeah, now I remember....someone who has a fuckload of money who's fairly convinced the shit is imminently to hit the fan....so he's covering his ass.

And you...what are you doing to prepare?

Bitching?

Good plan....let me know how that works for you in 2 years or so.

No more calls, please...we have a winner.


I really don't like giving you props...but that was more than fucking funny!

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