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BenevolentM -> Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 4:40:46 AM)

It is my understanding that Friday the 13th is infamous due to what happened years ago to the Knight Templars on that day. I heard that a document was found in the Vatican archive that shows that the Pope did not brand them heretics. It was the King of France. Today is Friday the 13th and so I thought to bring up the topic.

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Records of the superstition are rarely found before the 20th century, when it became extremely common. The connection between the Friday the 13th superstition and the Knights Templar was popularized in Dan Brown's 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code and in John J. Robinson's 1989 work Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry. On Friday, 13 October 1307, hundreds of the Knights Templar were arrested in France, an action apparently motivated financially and undertaken by the efficient royal bureaucracy to increase the prestige of the crown. Philip IV was the force behind this ruthless move, but it has also tarnished the historical reputation of Clement V. From the very day of Clement V's coronation, the king falsely charged the Templars with heresy, immorality and abuses, and the scruples of the Pope were compromised by a growing sense that the burgeoning French State might not wait for the Church, but would proceed independently. However, experts agree that this is a relatively recent correlation, and most likely a modern-day invention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th


I suppose this is an example of efficient government in action and the sort of thing efficient government is capable of.




Yachtie -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 4:53:45 AM)

fr

and tomorrow is Bastille Day.




BenevolentM -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 5:01:55 AM)

Yes it is. Yeah!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastille_Day




BenevolentM -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 2:05:26 PM)

13 is a lucky number me thinks.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 5:19:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

It is my understanding that Friday the 13th is infamous due to what happened years ago to the Knight Templars on that day. I heard that a document was found in the Vatican archive that shows that the Pope did not brand them heretics. It was the King of France. Today is Friday the 13th and so I thought to bring up the topic.

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Records of the superstition are rarely found before the 20th century, when it became extremely common. The connection between the Friday the 13th superstition and the Knights Templar was popularized in Dan Brown's 2003 novel The Da Vinci Code and in John J. Robinson's 1989 work Born in Blood: The Lost Secrets of Freemasonry. On Friday, 13 October 1307, hundreds of the Knights Templar were arrested in France, an action apparently motivated financially and undertaken by the efficient royal bureaucracy to increase the prestige of the crown. Philip IV was the force behind this ruthless move, but it has also tarnished the historical reputation of Clement V. From the very day of Clement V's coronation, the king falsely charged the Templars with heresy, immorality and abuses, and the scruples of the Pope were compromised by a growing sense that the burgeoning French State might not wait for the Church, but would proceed independently. However, experts agree that this is a relatively recent correlation, and most likely a modern-day invention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_the_13th


I suppose this is an example of efficient government in action and the sort of thing efficient government is capable of.


Really?

Today is Friday the 13th?

Fuck...I had a good day....you're bringing me down.




BenevolentM -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 5:51:19 PM)

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

I had a good day....you're bringing me down.


Think of it this way. It's movie night.




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/13/2012 5:51:42 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BenevolentM

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ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie

I had a good day....you're bringing me down.


Think of it this way. It's movie night.


That is an excellent point.




hlen5 -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/14/2012 11:22:04 PM)

In numerology the compound number thirteen translates to the single number 4 (1+3), the number of destiny.




littlewonder -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/14/2012 11:48:42 PM)

Friday the 13th is infamous due to the Last Supper, not the Knights Templar




BenevolentM -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/15/2012 4:37:28 AM)

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

In numerology the compound number thirteen translates to the single number 4 (1+3), the number of destiny.


That makes sense in that death is our destiny in a sense. If we are talking Tarot we are talking transformation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_(Tarot_card)

Couple day of death with

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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

Friday the 13th is infamous due to the Last Supper, not the Knights Templar



and you get destiny baby.

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The Evangelists and critics generally agree that the Last Supper was on a Thursday, that Christ suffered and died on Friday, and that He arose from the dead on Sunday.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14341a.htm


Destiny is a doubly edged sword though. Consult the Tarot card Justice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Tarot_card)

Transformation and Justice

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Justice is a necessary, but not sufficient, step in becoming fully human. ... that something in the world is dangerously out of balance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_(Tarot_card)




atursvcMaam -> RE: Vatican Archive and Friday the 13th (7/15/2012 11:47:23 PM)

Yep, Holy Thursday was on Friday the 13th, Good Friday was on Ash Wednesday, and Easter was on Groundhog day. If Jesus sees His shadow then there is 6 more weeks of Channukah. Right?




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