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While that is true, there is a difference between banning guns and banning assault rifles, how many people own one that don't commit mass murders? I own one. I've never shot anyone with it. Does that mean I don't need it? Does it mean I will be irresponsible with it? It's a tool.

Because I live in Texas, I feel a lot better having one. Let's suppose the drug cartels move farther north. I'm supposed to defend my family with a hand gun against them?

It's the person, not the gun.

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The point is more gun control won't stop idiots bent on mass murder. He would get the guns anyway or use another means.

Well hell,I say lets make him work a little harder at it,who knows he just might trip himself up before he does it ?

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It is a common fantasy that gun bans make society safer. In 2002 -- five years after enacting its gun ban -- the Australian Bureau of Criminology acknowledged there is no correlation between gun control and the use of firearms in violent crime. In fact, the percent of murders committed with a firearm was the highest it had ever been in 2006 (16.3 percent), says the D.C. Examiner.

Even Australia's Bureau of Crime Statistics and Research acknowledges that the gun ban had no significant impact on the amount of gun-involved crime:

In 2006, assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.

Moreover, Australia and the United States -- where no gun-ban exists -- both experienced similar decreases in murder rates:

Between 1995 and 2007, Australia saw a 31.9 percent decrease; without a gun ban, America's rate dropped 31.7 percent.
During the same time period, all other violent crime indices increased in Australia: assault rose 49.2 percent and robbery 6.2 percent.
Sexual assault -- Australia's equivalent term for rape -- increased 29.9 percent.
Overall, Australia's violent crime rate rose 42.2 percent.
At the same time, U.S. violent crime decreased 31.8 percent: rape dropped 19.2 percent; robbery decreased 33.2 percent; aggravated assault dropped 32.2 percent.
Australian women are now raped over three times as often as American women.

While this doesn't prove that more guns would impact crime rates, it does prove that gun control is a flawed policy. Furthermore, this highlights the most important point: gun banners promote failed policy regardless of the consequences to the people who must live with them, says the Examiner.

Source: Howard Nemerov, "Australia experiencing more violent crime despite gun ban," D.C. Examiner, April 8, 2009.

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Second Amendment Sisters have an interesting post on thier web site.

Gun control is based on the idea that a woman veaten raped and mudered in an alley is morally superior to one explaining to the police why her attacked has so many bullet holes in him.

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And that is why 99%+ of people have no business ever touching a firearm much less carrying a loaded weapon in public.

If someone was close enough and level headed enough to draw and shoot the shooter without hitting anyone else or getting killed themselves they were close enough to tackle and bring down the shooter as well, which after all would have been the safer approach.

Success in these situations, defined as stopping the shooter, is never incumbent on people being armed.

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Theatres and such DO have smoke alarms and sprinkler systems, it's part of the building code.

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What about getting guns on the black market ? Gun control won't stop anyone.


So the theater beefs up fire security. So then the guy uses a bomb or poison gas.

So once again,...You say it can't work,so letn not bother tryng.
You know its broke,but let us not try to fix it.
Does that about sum it up for you ?

I'll sum it up for you, no gun owner with half the brain of a piss ant is going to turn in their guns for some stupid illogical feel good utopian fantasy you guys refer to as gun control.

Let me sum this up for you,cause seriously you are coming off as the dimmest of bulbs...when sensible folks talk about gun control they are referring to new weapons entering the pipeline,no one,absolutely no one with any sense is talking about going door to door and melting down your guns.
Someone help me,no one can be this fucking dense

Oh well pardon me Mr Genius, no one wants to come get our guns ? Tell that to the gun owners in CA and NYC who were sent letters or otherwise required to turn in their registered semi auto military type guns. I don't want to forget to mention those
people in New Orleans who had guns of all kinds confiscated door to door by the police under the orders of that crowning jewel of ignorance Mayor Nagan.

But thanks so much for your generosity letting me keep the ones I already have. As you know I trust guys like you and the politicians to know what's best.

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

A slight difference between a semi-automatic assault weapon and a baseball bat....logic failure

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And I trust"guys like you"to insure that we can have this conversation again and again....and again,over and over again.

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

A slight difference between a semi-automatic assault weapon and a baseball bat....logic failure

Not if you are an unarmed victim.

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

A slight difference between a semi-automatic assault weapon and a baseball bat....logic failure

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I am stunned that Liberals think it is the Government's job to protect THEIR families. I suggest you look up the response time it takes for the police to come to your house in an emergency. Especially with the local budget crisis and layoffs. Do you know what kind of damage a intruder with a baseball bat can do to your kid in three minutes? Of course, you could threaten to SUE him since you don't believe in firearms. And if you live in a bad neighboorhood, where you need them the most, good luck if they show up at all.

A slight difference between a semi-automatic assault weapon and a baseball bat....logic failure

Not if you are an unarmed victim.

To hit someone with a baseball bat, takes proximity, to shoot at someone from a distance is a bit less personal.

Very few baseball bat owners go into theaters and kill 12....quite a bit of difference in actuality...I have yet to hear of anyone in Alabama walking into a bar and wounding 17 with a baseball bat...Not one single person has walked up to a school and beat a number of people to death with a baseball bat.....etc etc etc

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The AR-15 used in Colorado for example was designed and built for the US military.....I'd say that makes it an assault weapon....The military rarely buys weapons not made to KILL PEOPLE....I'd say killing is indeed assault.