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Magnus32169 -> Wax play (7/23/2012 7:08:45 PM)

Just began wax play during a scene last night. Used a single unscented, uncolored taper candle. I want to use colored candles to create a montage on my sub's skin; any knowledge about using colored candles you have and share will be appreciated.



DarkSteven -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 8:07:54 PM)

Paging LadyPact... paging LadyPact....



CRYPTICLXVI -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 8:14:25 PM)

Hellyeah... love wax play but would love to learn more. "LadyPact!!!"



sheisreeds -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 8:17:22 PM)

In my house we're complete assholes with wax, the hotter the better. So I might not be the best to ask?

I always test the wax first, let it give one drop on the inside of my wrist (sensitive spot). And I mean test it on you, before it goes near your sub, then to a test on her. Some candles may have perfumes or processing elements, that either super heat or someone could be allergic to.

We use Catholic Prayer Candles/Vigil candles. We light them a few hours before play so we have a good pot of wax going.

I have friends that melt them down, one is very proud of his wax crockpot. I like the spontaneity of seeing what I can get out of the candle.

Wax is much fun, and I like combining it with other forms of play, particularly knife play.



CRYPTICLXVI -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 8:27:38 PM)

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We use Catholic Prayer Candles/Vigil candles. We light them a few hours before play so we have a good pot of wax going.


Oh, I like this... then again I am a sucker for iconoclastic symbolism.

I have used tea candles before, just white ones. Simple, easy to control, forms pools of way in the container fast and damned hot. Yes, I have tested it on myself first and I love how they redden the skin. Not very exciting I know, shrug.




LadyPact -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 10:19:27 PM)

OP, I have quite a few posts here about wax, making paraffin candles, etc. Last month, I did ninety minutes worth of verbal material at Northern Exposure 3. No offense, but that's a lot of typing if I tried to put it all here.

It's way easier to answer specific questions, rather than try to spout out everything, or at least give Me an idea of what you want to know. Fire away, man. I'll do My best.




ARIES83 -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 10:45:50 PM)

As i've recently found out, beeswax candles
are bad for playing with, aparently they burn
to hot and can injure the skin.

-ARIES



LadyPact -> RE: Wax play (7/23/2012 11:29:59 PM)

OK, there's thing one.

Paraffin is ok. Soy is ok. Beeswax can seriously hurt somebody. You're not looking for a second degree burn on the skin.

Yes, (excuse the phrase) but Jesus jars are the next best thing to candles made especially for wax play. (Unscented, please.) They have the highest paraffin content out there that you can buy off of the shelves. Always test the wax that you plan to pour on somebody else on yourself first. Just drip some on your wrist, like you would if you were testing a baby's bottle. (Yes, certain areas of skin are more sensitive than that, so use some common sense about it, please.)

You want to think about candles from a chemical compound level. Different types of wax = different melting temperatures. Anything you add to wax = an increase in temperature. Those are dyes, oils, scents, and anything else that people did to make the candle are what gives you the variants in the melting point of the wax.

There are tons of folks who make candles specifically for play. They aren't hard to find.




BitaTruble -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 12:31:22 AM)

If you don't want to make your own, then I suggest colored drip sticks. The wicks are wound around rather than run straight through the candles so the wax drips very fast. They are around $5 at Bed, Bath and Beyond for a pack of four or five different colors.

Feel free to color outside the lines. [;)]



Kana -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 12:59:27 AM)

Uuggghhh, wax is messy.

Whaaaaaaa?
You mean there's another way to remove it than a cane?



Magnus32169 -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 3:53:53 AM)

Thank you to all who have replied and shared their knowledge.



GreedyTop -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 5:42:38 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kana

Uuggghhh, wax is messy.

Whaaaaaaa?
You mean there's another way to remove it than a cane?



Flogger. Crops.

ETA: I wanna try using wax in conjunction with a clothespin zipper on someone.



ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 6:09:51 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

OK, there's thing one.

Paraffin is ok. Soy is ok. Beeswax can seriously hurt somebody. You're not looking for a second degree burn on the skin.

Yes, (excuse the phrase) but Jesus jars are the next best thing to candles made especially for wax play. (Unscented, please.) They have the highest paraffin content out there that you can buy off of the shelves. Always test the wax that you plan to pour on somebody else on yourself first. Just drip some on your wrist, like you would if you were testing a baby's bottle. (Yes, certain areas of skin are more sensitive than that, so use some common sense about it, please.)

You want to think about candles from a chemical compound level. Different types of wax = different melting temperatures. Anything you add to wax = an increase in temperature. Those are dyes, oils, scents, and anything else that people did to make the candle are what gives you the variants in the melting point of the wax.

There are tons of folks who make candles specifically for play. They aren't hard to find.




This is all good info. Most especially about the additives to candles causing higher temperatures, and thus potential burns.

The Jesus candles LadyP speaks of are those Catholic candles in the tall glass with the religious motifs. Any drug store will have them, although they can be heavy for a small hand like mine. I tend to go for the "safety" candles; the plain white small pillars you buy for when the electricity goes out. Same reason, cheap, lots of paraffin, minimal additives.

It is recommended that you hold the candle a good 18 inches above the person's skin. Also, for those wanting to do wax play on a male sub's scrotum, please note that the scrotum can be VERY THIN, and you can cause immediate ER type harm if you manage to burn through the skin. So be careful with those dangly bits !!

ETA: Doesn't *everyone* flog or beat the wax off?



AthenaSurrenders -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 6:28:43 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt


ETA: Doesn't *everyone* flog or beat the wax off?



No! Sheesh you people. I'm way too much of a lightweight to be hanging around with all you sadists.



LadyPact -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 6:59:38 AM)

I vary on removal methods. For 'nice' play, I've got a big thing for knives. (Not for cutting, usually. Just removal.) The cool part about making your own candles is that you do end up with a few dull knives.

Yes, I've been known to remove wax with floggers or a cane, but that's when My devil is showing. It's fun, but it does make more of a mess.

Another few words about the jars. Not only are they a bit uncoordinated for people with small hands, arthritis, and the like, they are also far less convenient if you are going elsewhere to play. If you're doing wax at the local play party, rather than at home, they are a bigger pain in the tail to take with you. Depending on which way you are going to melt the wax (open flame or alternative heat source) there can be other issues, too. Open flame is great when the candle is still high. The more you burn the candle away, the more likely you'll tip it too much or too little and get either black residue or put the candle out. Alternative heat, such as a crock pot or paraffin pot, you're lugging *another* thing with you and have to deal with electric cords and such.





kalikshama -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 7:19:57 AM)

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It is recommended that you hold the candle a good 18 inches above the person's skin.


I just recently learned that different types of wax had different melting points. I did know that the higher the candle was held, the less the wax hurt. All of my play thus far has been with supermarket candles held high.

This FinDomme whine turned into a nice candle thread and next time I go to the Plimoth Plantation I'm going to pick up some bayberry candles.



ChatteParfaitt -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 7:22:02 AM)

Oohhh I am so jealous. I love the scent of REAL bayberry candles.




LadyPact -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 9:29:49 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
I just recently learned that different types of wax had different melting points. I did know that the higher the candle was held, the less the wax hurt. All of my play thus far has been with supermarket candles held high.

This FinDomme whine turned into a nice candle thread and next time I go to the Plimoth Plantation I'm going to pick up some bayberry candles.

I'll have to check out that link.

Higher the wax has to fall to reach the skin, the longer it has time in the air to cool.





DesFIP -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 9:55:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

Uuggghhh, wax is messy.

Whaaaaaaa?
You mean there's another way to remove it than a cane?


I thought this was what knives are for?



sexyred1 -> RE: Wax play (7/24/2012 10:02:54 AM)

I love wax. The colored ones are so pretty on skin but definitely hotter in temperature. The only time wax is bad is when it drips someplace it shouldn't; yikes!

But of course, that is the point, no?



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