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littlewonder -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 9:02:59 AM)

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The reality is that I know if he's massively busy and stressed, the best way to be able to get some of his Tallness' attention is to make sure that everything is done so that he'll have some free time to not worry about the trivial stuff.


Exactly. If you want your partner to be happy and healthy and to give you attention and for you both to be able to enjoy a happy life together, you need to help them out to get the stress to go down.

I know I do everything in my power to help Master with anything he needs because in the end it's a benefit to us both. It makes him happier which makes me happier and his stress is lowered and he's able to give more time to us as a couple.

This seems to be a typical "man" problem, not a d/s problem. How many women have children or high powered jobs and then have to come home an cook, clean, do the shopping, take care of the house and then by the end of the day they're exhausted and the last thing they want is their husband bugging them for sex. By then she's looking at her husband and thinking....you do nothing to help but yet you expect to get what you want???? It doesn't work like that guys...not talking all....just a majority so please no one say "all men are like that".
Help out and you'll find a reward in the end.




clum -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 9:05:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

No, no, no, no, no. no. Nothing changed at work or anywhere else.

clum - do you two have children, especially new ones?








luckly we dont have kids yet..
i can not imagine if we would..
no chance for Ds i assume.?






littlewonder -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 9:17:41 AM)

throws her hands up, shakes her head and walks away.




stellauk -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 9:33:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: clum


Please let me ask you about this confusion.

Is confusion to you a temporary or transient state, or is it maybe something you studied at university, or it is an integral part of your nature?




searching4mysir -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 9:44:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: littlewonder

How many women have children or high powered jobs and then have to come home an cook, clean, do the shopping, take care of the house and then by the end of the day they're exhausted and the last thing they want is their husband bugging them for sex. By then she's looking at her husband and thinking....you do nothing to help but yet you expect to get what you want???? It doesn't work like that guys...not talking all....just a majority so please no one say "all men are like that".
Help out and you'll find a reward in the end.




QFT




ARIES83 -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 10:25:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

How many women have children or high powered jobs and then have to come home an cook, clean, do the shopping, take care of the house and then by the end of the day they're exhausted and the last thing they want is their husband bugging them for sex. By then she's looking at her husband and thinking....you do nothing to help but yet you expect to get what you want???? It doesn't work like that guys...not talking all....just a majority so please no one say "all men are like that".
Help out and you'll find a reward in the end.




QFT


It's a hard life for some :(
I know everyones situation is diffrent, but for
the housewife types (male or female) who's Dom
is the breadwinner all I have to say is poor baby...
Im a tradesman, my job is hard work. When I
come home I need A drink, some kind of sex, a
shower, some lounge time and cooked food...
not nesseccary in that order!
Sure cleaning the house, washing clothes, ect sucks
but I am super clear from the start, if I have to do
it won't get done because im to tired from work, and
I want it done, so guess what!
and besides, if theres love and excitement in a
relationship does going to work or doing the household
chores really matter.

-ARIES

* Whats QFT mean?





searching4mysir -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 10:32:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: ARIES83

quote:

ORIGINAL: searching4mysir


quote:

ORIGINAL: littlewonder

How many women have children or high powered jobs and then have to come home an cook, clean, do the shopping, take care of the house and then by the end of the day they're exhausted and the last thing they want is their husband bugging them for sex. By then she's looking at her husband and thinking....you do nothing to help but yet you expect to get what you want???? It doesn't work like that guys...not talking all....just a majority so please no one say "all men are like that".
Help out and you'll find a reward in the end.




QFT


It's a hard life for some :(
I know everyones situation is diffrent, but for
the housewife types (male or female) who's Dom
is the breadwinner all I have to say is poor baby...
Im a tradesman, my job is hard work. When I
come home I need A drink, some kind of sex, a
shower, some lounge time and cooked food...
not nesseccary in that order!
Sure cleaning the house, washing clothes, ect sucks
but I am super clear from the start, if I have to do
it won't get done because im to tired from work, and
I want it done, so guess what!
and besides, if theres love and excitement in a
relationship does going to work or doing the household
chores really matter.

-ARIES

* Whats QFT mean?





Aries, we are talking specifically about a female-led relationship here. He is a do-me sub and is pissy that he isn't getting his kink on and she is focusing on her business instead of his dick.

QFT = Quoted for Truth




JeffBC -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 10:32:57 AM)

Dude... the stuff of life (dishes, etc.) is punishment to you? What sort of privileged life have you led exactly?




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 10:57:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: clum




luckly we dont have kids yet..
i can not imagine if we would..
no chance for Ds i assume.?





For pity's sake -- step away from the porn and attempt to digest what people are telling you. Yes, I am giving you this advice though I suspect reading and digesting information is like punishment for you.

<big sigh>

Why do I waste my time? It's like, punishment for me.

ETA: Jeff, you big meanie man !! It's not easy trying to replace Mommy !!






JeffBC -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:17:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt
ETA: Jeff, you big meanie man !! It's not easy trying to replace Mommy !!

I have it on good authority that I've been extra mean this last week or two. But sheez! Although now that I ponder it, maybe I kind of like the idea. I think I've decided that working for a living is punishment because... you know... I'd rather not.




ResidentSadist -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:19:55 AM)

Doodums, babycakes . . .

An exchange works like this. You do what she likes, she does what you like. When you mention D/s she mentions chores. Do you do them? No ticky, no washy.




Ishtarr -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:23:35 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Let's turn this around a bit. When I'm in a fulfilling D/s relationship, I like being a Domestic Goddess. In addition to cooking, I enjoy cleaning and picking up after him. However, if he stops being a D mentally and physically, picking his dirty socks off the floor becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. His inability to put things away starts pissing me off, rather than being cute.



I totally agree with this.
My husband doesn't get to boss me around because I'm some kind of self-sufficient vision of obedience and submission.
My husband gets to boss me around because in exchange for being obedient to him *I* get what I want and need from him... which in my case, that happens to be a whole lot of kinky play/sex on a pretty much daily basis.

I don't have a job, so I by default consider it my duty to do all the housework regardless of our BDSM dynamic. However, seeing that I consider the running of the household my "job" I also don't see it as something he's got the default right to mess with. It's my task in our relationship which is on par with his job as far as our individual contributions go, and thus already an equal exchange. Therefor, I run the household my way and he doesn't just have the "right" or authority to tell me differently by the virtue of wanting to tell me differently. I also don't cater to his every need, just because he's the breadwinner or has had a hard day... hell, he doesn't start catering to my every need when I've got a hard day either.

Now, he loves to be in charge. He loves to beat the tar out of me. He loves to micromanage my every move, my every breath, my every position and my every chore. He loves to make me run the household his way.

And I'm more than happy to oblige him in all those things, and give him exactly what he wants... but not because I just selfishly adore serving, but because in exchange I get what I want and need from him. The fact that this is very much and exchange for us also means he doesn't get to take a couple weeks off, just because he's stressed at work and at the same time still expect to be provided with all the things he wants from me. If I'm still expected to hold up my end of this dynamic, and obey him, please him and cater to his every need, the he needs to hold up his end and be an actual dominant influence in my life, instead of just copping out and issuing flat and uninspiring commands because he's tired and stressed.

I don't get to claim that I'm tired and stressed and do not much feel like blowing him on command when he's in fully Dom-y mode. So why on Earth would he get to stop being Dom-y because of stress and still expect me to be submissive to him at the same time?

Of course he has off days some time. Nobody is "on" or perfect 24/7/365; it's not because for a day, or a couple of hours I get a less than total Dom-y vibe from him that I suddenly trow in the towel and tell him to kiss my ass when he gives me a command. But at the same time... in the grand scale of things... he needs to uphold his end, and put in as much effort into making *me* happy as I put into making him happy.

I have a feeling that the OPs relationship doesn't work that way, not because what he wants is bad or selfish, but because what he and his wife want to do and are willing to do to make each other happy is very out of sync. I also feel that the spectrum of what they want kinky/BDSM wise if very out of sync and that there is very little overlap into stuff that makes them both feel like they are getting what they want from the same actions/dynamic. Which probably means that they both feel like they are putting in way more effort than the other one is doing.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:32:21 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Ishtarr


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Let's turn this around a bit. When I'm in a fulfilling D/s relationship, I like being a Domestic Goddess. In addition to cooking, I enjoy cleaning and picking up after him. However, if he stops being a D mentally and physically, picking his dirty socks off the floor becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. His inability to put things away starts pissing me off, rather than being cute.



I totally agree with this.
My husband doesn't get to boss me around because I'm some kind of self-sufficient vision of obedience and submission.
My husband gets to boss me around because in exchange for being obedient to him *I* get what I want and need from him... and in my case, that happens to be a whole lot of kinky play/sex on a pretty much daily basis.

I don't work, so I consider it my duty to do all the housework regardless of our BDSM dynamic, so that he can focus on his career, and provide the income we both depend on. However, seeing that I consider the running of the housework my "job" I also do it my way, which isn't always the way he wants it. I also don't cater to his every need, just because he's the breadwinner or has a hard day... hell, he doesn't start catering to my every need when I've got a hard day either.

Now, he loves to be in charge. He loves to beat the tar out of me. He loves to micromanage my every move, my every breath, my every position and my every chore.

And I'm more than happy to oblige him in all those things, and give him exactly what he wants... but not because I just selfishly adore serving, but because in exchange I get what I want and need from him. The fact that this is very much and exchange for us also means he doesn't get to take a couple weeks off, just because he's stressed at work and still expect to be provided with all the things he wants from me. If I'm still expected to hold up my end of this dynamic, and obey him, please him and cater to his every need, the he needs to hold up his end and be an actual dominant influence in my life, instead of just copping out and issuing flat and uninspiring commands.

Of course he has off days some time. Nobody is "on" or perfect 24/7/365 and it's not because I for a day, or a couple of hours get a less than total Dom-y vibe from him that I suddenly trow in the towel and tell him to kiss my ass when he gives me a command. But at the same time... in the grand scale of things... he needs to uphold his end, and put in as much effort into making *me* happing as I put into making him happy.

I have a feeling that the OPs relationship doesn't work that way, not because what he wants is bad or selfish, but because what he and his wife want to do and are willing to do to make each other happy is very out of sync. I also feel that the spectrum of what they want kinky/BDSM wise if very out of sync and that there is very little overlap into stuff that makes them both feel like they are getting what they want from the same actions/dynamic. Which probably means that they both feel like they are putting in way more effort than the other one is doing.



Although I agree with the above statement, I'm not ready to diagnose incompatibility. If the OP is anything to go buy, they don't know enough or comprehend enough to have a deep enough conversation (there I go, assuming couples adequately communicate !!) to even know if they are in sync. The OP sounds like an immature preteen whining b/c he has to do chores -- hard to fix with anything but a good parental dynamic.








lizi -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:37:03 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: clum



luckly we dont have kids yet..
i can not imagine if we would..
no chance for Ds i assume.?





Jesus. Does your all of your thinking begin and end with your penis as the main subject?

I can't imagine what your wife puts up with because you seem utterly selfish. Please do not have children, I beg you.




Ishtarr -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:41:53 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

The OP sounds like an immature preteen whining b/c he has to do chores -- hard to fix with anything but a good parental dynamic.


It all depends on information we currently don't have.

Does he work as many hours a week as she does? And if so, why on Earth would he have to do all of the chores while getting nothing in return from her?

Now is he's home all day, like I am, then obviously the housework is just his responsibility regardless of their dynamic. But if that isn't the case, he's more than right to be annoyed at her for dumping her half of the household responsibilities off to him while not providing him with an equal exchange for doing so.

And I'm not even talking about if this period happens to be an exception... everybody has off period, and picking up the slack for your partner when they are having a rough time is just what you do in a marriage... why else bother being married?
But if she consistently expects him to be in a submissive headspace without her providing a dominant headspace energy for him to "feed off" then he's more than right to be unhappy and complain that him being stuck with her half of the work feels like a punishment.




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:46:43 AM)

Well that's true; there's much we don't know. I do concede he shouldn't have to do all the housework if they are working equal hours, that's not fair.

But you know, most married men don't even do 20 or 30% of the housework. She might just be trying to get him to do his share.

I am basing my responses on the OP's posts which seem overly cock-centric, whiny, and immature.









Bill41 -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 11:50:39 AM)

Dude listen to the great advice your are getting dark Steven nailed it. it's not about you it's about Her. you should consider yourself lucky there are a lot of married subs out there that don't have it near as good as you. focus on her needs not yours.




OsideGirl -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 12:07:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Well that's true; there's much we don't know. I do concede he shouldn't have to do all the housework if they are working equal hours, that's not fair.

But you know, most married men don't even do 20 or 30% of the housework. She might just be trying to get him to do his share.

I am basing my responses on the OP's posts which seem overly cock-centric, whiny, and immature.


This is my interpretation of his post:

Him: Honey, I want to be submissive.

Her: Okay, do the dishes.

Him: I don't want to do the dishes. That's not D/s, there's no play in that!




ChatteParfaitt -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 12:12:57 PM)

Which is why I say the majority of male "subs" are bedroom only bottoms. They want the kinky sex, there is no real desire to submit to another's authority.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: confused :( (7/24/2012 12:13:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

Which is why I say the majority of male "subs" are bedroom only bottoms. They want the kinky sex, there is no real desire to submit to another's authority.


Pretty much.

Now if only they would just say that they wanted the kinky sex right up front... [8D]




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