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pinkee -> D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 7:57:50 AM)
Seems to me W/we have forgotten to discuss BDSM itself. So, here's my question: Do Y/you seek a D/s or M/s relationship? How long have Y/you been seeking? What motivates Y/you? pinkee

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 7:58:42 AM)
I don't seek. But I am open to all connections as long as it's not as a mother or a wife.

OsideGirl -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:03:57 AM)
I'm confused about what you're asking. BDSM and D/s-M/s are not the same things. Two are frequently engaged in at the same time within this community. But, I know people that engage in BDSM (bondage, discipline, Sado/masochism) and have nothing to do with D/s and some people that are heavily into D/s and never engage in BDSM.

thetammyjo -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:07:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee Seems to me W/we have forgotten to discuss BDSM itself. So, here's my question: Do Y/you seek a D/s or M/s relationship? How long have Y/you been seeking? What motivates Y/you? pinkee I am seeking a Ds relationship again that might evolve into a Ms one. What motivates me is internal desires, experience with having multiple subs and slaves at the same time and the contentment that gave me, and the needs/desires of the people currently in my household. My seeking isn't terribly active though, it is more like an openness to possibilities with limits and guidelines. Collectively I think my household in general would be happier if we had two others -- but we are happy now so we won't compromise on what we want and risk damaging what we have built.

TxBadMan -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:08:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pinkee Seems to me W/we have forgotten to discuss BDSM itself. So, here's my question: Do Y/you seek a D/s or M/s relationship? How long have Y/you been seeking? What motivates Y/you? pinkee No. I do not actively seek a relationship of any kind. I never have. I perfer to let things happen on their own, without any pushing or shoves from me.

darkinshadows -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:09:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I don't seek. But I am open to all connections as long as it's not as a mother or a wife. Damn Em... You just broke my heart.... (puts away surprise engagement ring....)

TallDarkAndWitty -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:10:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl I'm confused about what you're asking. BDSM and D/s-M/s are not the same things. Two are frequently engaged in at the same time within this community. But, I know people that engage in BDSM (bondage, discipline, Sado/masochism) and have nothing to do with D/s and some people that are heavily into D/s and never engage in BDSM. Most people define BDSM as "B&D, D/s, and SM" (it is a magical acronym where the letters represent multiple words). Then most people say that M/s is a subset of D/s. So when talking to most people D/s and M/s are part of BDSM. Now, in the online world, the representation of D/s or M/s players far outweighs what you find in 3d space. I think it is because someone into Bondage or Sensation play is just never going to be satisfied with what you find online (except maybe as a source to actually meet people). I think that many of the D/s players see themselves as different from the B&D and S&M folks because of this. It is almost like BDSM is what you do in 3d and D/s is what you do online... Taggard

darkinshadows -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:13:07 AM)
Hi OSIDE... I think that pinkie is asking in what context is a persons search for BDSM. See for me... M/s indicates more ownership. D/s isnt ownership but in BDSM there is always an exchange of power... Maybe Top/bottom may have been a more appropriate 'label'. Just a thought.

accipitres -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:14:45 AM)
I am a slave, so I am into M/s (Master/slave) relationships. I am also a sadist, so I am into S & M (sadism and masochism).

thetammyjo -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:18:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl I'm confused about what you're asking. BDSM and D/s-M/s are not the same things. Two are frequently engaged in at the same time within this community. But, I know people that engage in BDSM (bondage, discipline, Sado/masochism) and have nothing to do with D/s and some people that are heavily into D/s and never engage in BDSM. Most people define BDSM as "B&D, D/s, and SM" (it is a magical acronym where the letters represent multiple words). Then most people say that M/s is a subset of D/s. So when talking to most people D/s and M/s are part of BDSM. Now, in the online world, the representation of D/s or M/s players far outweighs what you find in 3d space. I think it is because someone into Bondage or Sensation play is just never going to be satisfied with what you find online (except maybe as a source to actually meet people). I think that many of the D/s players see themselves as different from the B&D and S&M folks because of this. It is almost like BDSM is what you do in 3d and D/s is what you do online... Taggard I think you are right on the target, Taggard. I find that folks who do Ds or Ms far outweigh others online too. Howver when I meet people in meatlife and see the books they buy and listen to them talk I note that most folks do BDSM as spice or an occasional thing.

kyraofMists -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:18:21 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross But I am open to all connections as long as it's not as a mother or a wife. lol I bet you get the responses, "When you get older you will change your mind" or "you just haven't found the right person yet". I used to get those responses all the time. Guess I have yet to reach that magic age. kyra

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:21:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: darkinshadows Damn Em... You just broke my heart.... (puts away surprise engagement ring....) I never said anything about being a fiance :)

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 8:22:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kyraofMists I bet you get the responses, "When you get older you will change your mind" or "you just haven't found the right person yet". I used to get those responses all the time. Guess I have yet to reach that magic age. kyra LOL I used to a lot, but it doesn't come up in conversation as much anymore (I either hang around politer people or they just don't care). However, I will often caveat what I say with "I'm open to life changing my mind, but it's not where I see myself and it's not who I am now." This seems to shut them down for the most part. I'm also blessed with a family who doesn't feel my job is to pop out babies for their pleasure or to somehow prove I'm a secure adult. They really DO understand that this is just who I am and I will do what I want. Plus my sister had grandkids so it takes pressure off me :)

Ceyx -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:04:06 AM)
I'm just here to read the boards and talk, not to find a partner. I state as much in my profile on the other side, and have the absolute dearth of mail to show for it. Well. It's that or the fact that I'm a big jerk. One of those.

pinkee -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:15:17 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TallDarkAndWitty quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl I'm confused about what you're asking. BDSM and D/s-M/s are not the same things. Two are frequently engaged in at the same time within this community. But, I know people that engage in BDSM (bondage, discipline, Sado/masochism) and have nothing to do with D/s and some people that are heavily into D/s and never engage in BDSM. Most people define BDSM as "B&D, D/s, and SM" (it is a magical acronym where the letters represent multiple words). Then most people say that M/s is a subset of D/s. So when talking to most people D/s and M/s are part of BDSM. Now, in the online world, the representation of D/s or M/s players far outweighs what you find in 3d space. I think it is because someone into Bondage or Sensation play is just never going to be satisfied with what you find online (except maybe as a source to actually meet people). I think that many of the D/s players see themselves as different from the B&D and S&M folks because of this. It is almost like BDSM is what you do in 3d and D/s is what you do online... Taggard Let me rephrase: 1. Do Y/you seek a D/s or M/s relationship? 2. Why? 3. How long have Y/you been seeking? pinkee

SuperatusMasculs -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:23:46 AM)
As a Gentleman Dominant, I seek those who wish to submit to Control. Control is only gained through Trust, Respect, and Honor. Mental Seduction must precede any physical contact. D/s and M/s are those Controlled relationships, with B, D, S & M thrown in as levels of Physical Activity. What gets me off is Trust. The fact that as a Gentleman I am Trustworthy, and have conducted my self in such a manner as to have earned it. Implicit in the definition of Control is Trust. If you grant Control without first requiring Trust, then you walk a slippery slope, my friends. Just my opinion... Michael

Sab -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:24:29 AM)
Don't seek, didn't sought but found. :)

MistressLorelei -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:24:39 AM)
I am seeking a long-term D/s relationship. I find that there are far too many views of 'slave' to define if that's what I seek. In some cases yes, in others no way. So I will stick with the D/s definition. I am looking for a total power exchange type of relationship with a combination of darkness and light. I have been looking for several months, and now, I don't know that I am 'looking' as much as observing. If I close my eyes I may not see it, but I will sense it all the more.

accipitres -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:36:11 AM)
Actually, you can get control through fear, not just through "Trust, Respect, and Honor." Personally, I think trust is just another way of saying "I'm pretty sure you will behave the way I want you to" Where's the fun in that? I much prefer the Trickster. But then, I'm weird

Slipstreme -> RE: D/s and M/s (6/9/2006 9:42:01 AM)
Does I don't know qualify as a good answer? :P I consider myself too new to the lifestyle to aspire to anything more than what I currently have. I will go with D/s or M/s if that is where the winds take me. I see relationships in general as an evolution of sorts. I just know I can never again settle for vanilla.

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