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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 10:42:06 AM   
subrob1967


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I agree with you, but that's the beauty of our Constitution, it's written to give our local governments the power to write the laws they feel necessary to govern their municipalities. If your local government is too oppressive, you have the choice to move to one with less.


This beautifully describes how gun control should work.

Or did, before the NRA interfered, telling locals how they should live.




Show me where the Constitution says your drunken behavior shall not be infringed.


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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 12:36:14 PM   
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lol, cute answer rob.

The thing is most of the time, I don't have anything to drink, and IF I have my 1 glass of wine with dinner, I am not leaving till a few hours later.

My point is, our lives are forever changed, even when doing the smallest of things.

I am far more worried about the drivers chatting on cell phones, texting, putting make up on, or just driving distracted these days.



I agree with you, but that's the beauty of our Constitution, it's written to give our local governments the power to write the laws they feel necessary to govern their municipalities. If your local government is too oppressive, you have the choice to move to one with less. But I'd be willing to bet that not a single congressman will be affected by this law, unless they crash their car.



Sorry there is nothing great about it on any level.

The job of a constitutor is to write a debt collection agreement as a 3rd party debt collector. (taxes)

There little to ZERO difference between this constitution and that of england of that time. I mean literally word for word, so when you compliment the so called founders you are complimenting the king of england.

I will ask you the same question; where in the world can anyone move that does not have the oppression by fantasy democracy?

Last time I checked people means community, and the community never voted on it either.

The legislators passed that shit, Marini never voted on a damn thing...

We the fuicking people alright!

Americans are all psychotic with double vision and split minds. they think that some scum bag sworn to protect the state not the people is working for them.

I posted this shit how many times?

WISCONSIN CONSTITUTION

PREAMBLE
We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for
our freedom, in order to secure its blessings, form a more perfect
government, insure domestic tranquility and promote the gen-
eral welfare, do establish this constitution.

There you have it, the people right!


Text from Legislative Reference Bureau Database of
2009-10 WISCONSIN STATUTES & ANNOTATIONS
Updated through 2011 Wisconsin Act 286.
Includes all Acts of the 2011-12 Legislature and all Supreme Court Orders affecting statutes enacted on or before July 1, 2012.
CHAPTER 1
SOVEREIGNTY AND JURISDICTION OF THE STATE


1.01 
State sovereignty and jurisdiction.


The sovereignty and jurisdiction of this state extend to all places within the boundaries declared in article II of the constitution, subject only to such rights of jurisdiction as have been or shall be acquired by the United States over any places therein; and the governor, and all subordinate officers of the state, shall maintain and defend its sovereignty and jurisdiction. Such sovereignty and jurisdiction are asserted and exercised over the St. Croix River from the eastern shore thereof to the center or thread of the same, and the exclusive jurisdiction of the state of Minnesota to authorize any person to obstruct the navigation of said river east of the center or thread thereof, or to enter upon the same and build piers, booms or other fixtures, or to occupy any part of said river east of the center or thread thereof for the purpose of sorting or holding logs, is denied; such acts can only be authorized by the concurrent consent of the legislature of this state.

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statutes/statutes/1


and are they sworn to protect the people? fuck no, they are sworn to protect the STATUS of the state.
The state is not the people.

people dont get it, pun intended

the people do all the voting and we the idjits get to sit back and watch the show at increasingly more expense and less rights.

They told us the moon is fucking cheese and we believed it LOL




Here I will correct it for them:


The sovereignty and jurisdiction of this state extend to all places within the boundaries declared in article II of the constitution, subject only to such rights of jurisdiction as have been or shall be acquired by the United States over any places therein; and the governor, and all subordinate officers of the state, shall maintain and defend the life, liberty, and freedom, of the people jointly, severally and individually.


There we go, now its we the people not we the people of the plutocracy or gubafia!


That was so easy even MM could do it! LMAO








< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/31/2012 12:57:10 PM >


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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 2:16:12 PM   
Musicmystery


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quote:

ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

I agree with you, but that's the beauty of our Constitution, it's written to give our local governments the power to write the laws they feel necessary to govern their municipalities. If your local government is too oppressive, you have the choice to move to one with less.


This beautifully describes how gun control should work.

Or did, before the NRA interfered, telling locals how they should live.




Show me where the Constitution says your drunken behavior shall not be infringed.


I have no trouble with drunken behavior being infringed, or automotive privileges revoked. That's sensible regulation.

Show me where the Constitution says "well-regulated" isn't permitted regarding firearms.

And show me where a private national group has the right to overturn the will of local people.

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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 2:44:09 PM   
subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I have no trouble with drunken behavior being infringed, or automotive privileges revoked. That's sensible regulation.

Show me where the Constitution says "well-regulated" isn't permitted regarding firearms.

And show me where a private national group has the right to overturn the will of local people.


Show me where THE PEOPLE doesn't mean the individual citizen. You are aware there wasn't any national guard units when the Constitution was written, aren't ya? As a so called educator, you obviously don't understand the second amendment... Perhaps you should go read the Heller decision.

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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 2:53:51 PM   
Musicmystery


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Show me where THE PEOPLE doesn't mean the individual citizen.


Sure. http://www.dictionary.com

We the People <-- see the plural, referring to the society? The Social Contract? The Jeffersonian Enlightenment?

And you still haven't answered the question.



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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 5:00:03 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

I agree with you, but that's the beauty of our Constitution, it's written to give our local governments the power to write the laws they feel necessary to govern their municipalities. If your local government is too oppressive, you have the choice to move to one with less.


This beautifully describes how gun control should work.

Or did, before the NRA interfered, telling locals how they should live.




Show me where the Constitution says your drunken behavior shall not be infringed.


I have no trouble with drunken behavior being infringed, or automotive privileges revoked. That's sensible regulation.

Show me where the Constitution says "well-regulated" isn't permitted regarding firearms.

And show me where a private national group has the right to overturn the will of local people.


First there is no such thing as automotive privileges. Driving is a commercial activity that falls under the commercial venue of gubafia. Travel on the other hand is a private and noncommercial as well as a means of locomotion to travel regardless if that is your feet, horse, or automobile. Again I posted on several occasions the case law proving the point.

you are beyond confused.

show me anywhere that "well regulated" is in effect PRIOR to calling the militia into service.

Another omission consequently a MAJOR FAIL on your part in both grammar and "accurate" history.

Secondly regulating the militia is completely distinguished and peculiar to regulating arms. Another FAIL on your part since you still after being beaten silly cannot see how something so simple works. (Like monetary inflation is it going to take 4 years of beating your brains in before you GET IT?




_____________________________

"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 5:23:39 PM   
Real0ne


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

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Show me where THE PEOPLE doesn't mean the individual citizen.


Sure. http://www.dictionary.com

We the People <-- see the plural, referring to the society? The Social Contract? The Jeffersonian Enlightenment?

And you still haven't answered the question.






prove it! That when used as a pronoun "People" as it is used refers to a "society at large". There are lots of societies that do not include you.

The philosophically a social contract but guess what.....you can wipe your ass with philosophy in court, and you better come up with a legal or equitable position or the court will wipe the floor with your ass.

Now you might get me to buy that it means the "People" who witnessed the execution of it. They are not the signatories they are after all only the WITNESSES of the document. Now that should give anyone whos brain is firing on all 8 pause.

If you want to use people to depict ONE of many you would simply state "One of the people".

Ether way if the word "People" refers to the group you are in it also refers to you, both as an individual or a group.

the people in your ilk are not allowed to have guns, and you want to tell me that does not include you in the individual sense?




_____________________________

"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

(in reply to Musicmystery)
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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 5:24:50 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: subrob1967


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
I have no trouble with drunken behavior being infringed, or automotive privileges revoked. That's sensible regulation.

Show me where the Constitution says "well-regulated" isn't permitted regarding firearms.

And show me where a private national group has the right to overturn the will of local people.


Show me where THE PEOPLE doesn't mean the individual citizen. You are aware there wasn't any national guard units when the Constitution was written, aren't ya? As a so called educator, you obviously don't understand the second amendment... Perhaps you should go read the Heller decision.


Home schooling is on a steady rise you know.

I would say that "People" are firing him if that is the case!

Institute of Education Sciences
National Center for Education Statistics


Question:
How many children are homeschooled in the United States?

Response:
In 2007, the number of homeschooled students was about 1.5 million, an increase from 850,000 in 1999 and 1.1 million in 2003. The percentage of the school-age population that was homeschooled increased from 1.7 percent in 1999 to 2.9 percent in 2007. The increase in the percentage of homeschooled students from 1999 to 2007 represents a 74 percent relative increase over the 8-year period and a 36 percent relative increase since 2003. In 2007, the majority of homeschooled students received all of their education at home (84 percent), but some attended school up to 25 hours per week. Eleven percent of homeschooled students were enrolled in school less than 9 hours per week, and 5 percent were enrolled between 9 and 25 hours per week.
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=91




< Message edited by Real0ne -- 7/31/2012 5:27:48 PM >


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"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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RE: DC passes EMERGENCY legislation/tough new DUI laws ... - 7/31/2012 6:26:08 PM   
Real0ne


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ORIGINAL: Marini

I just saw/heard this on my local news.

DC has passed EMERGENCY legislation, creating some very tough new DUI laws, that will go into effect Wednesday, August 1, 2012.

I am doing this to inform and warn, because many of you will want to visit our Nation's Capital one day, and you can't say Marini didn't warn you!


Come here and party, see the sites, and enjoy yourself!
But realize the blood alcohol limits are being lowered from .08 to .04 AND
first time offenders will face up to a $1,000 FINE AND a 180 day jail sentence.

For this to be the Nation's Capital of the United States, this is a big deal.

CBS local news/ Tougher DUI laws go into effect in DC this week!






thats the abortion that law has become in this country. yep!

Its all about fear and that fear is getting more unreasonable and capricious as time goes on.

Used to be that you had to injure someone but now someone only need be scared of injury for a bunch of scum bags to pass laws that infringe on rights for their social engineering projects.

I am sure you are one of them that believes as one of the people that you are somehow contributing to the governance of this country but nothing could be farther from the truth.

you get to elect your King and his courtiers vote for you.

You never seen any referendum but like most americans dont know the difference between being led by the nose and self governed.

Its the same shit the kings did PRIOR to the revolution.

Of did you get to vote on that? LOL

_____________________________

"We the Borg" of the us imperialists....resistance is futile

Democracy; The 'People' voted on 'which' amendment?

Yesterdays tinfoil is today's reality!

"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session

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