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lilmissdefiant -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 6:55:41 AM)


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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read your profile. It clearly states that you consider D/s to be sessions only. No actual relationship, no vanilla down time, no going grocery shopping together.

Why do you expect to have your subs stick around after the scene when you're advertising for subs for sessions only?



Agreed



searching4mysir -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 9:38:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MISTRESSNAUGHTYX

I have had slaves submit to me and then they high tail it and are not serious in being owned.I don't know why they submit if they don't intend on carrying thru with it.any help would be appreciated



Perhaps, cupcake, it is because they saw behind the facade and realized you were a fraud?



TNDommeK -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 10:17:42 AM)

Aahhhhhh seems like someone has been found out!! Well perhaps- wait a minute, I have to be good. BOOOO! *pouts*



NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 11:26:44 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read your profile. It clearly states that you consider D/s to be sessions only. No actual relationship, no vanilla down time, no going grocery shopping together.

Why do you expect to have your subs stick around after the scene when you're advertising for subs for sessions only?

This. ^^^^



Alltiedup57 -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 1:40:33 PM)

I have the opposite , suppose to meet Dom tonight, but he failed to give time n won't reply.
Alltiedup57



sexyred1 -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 1:43:05 PM)

Alltiedup...uh, don't meet him? If someone won't confirm a meeting, I don't show up.



littlewonder -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 1:43:54 PM)

<bites tongue> [sm=bite.gif][sm=ofcourse.gif]



PeonForHer -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 3:46:19 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read your profile. It clearly states that you consider D/s to be sessions only. No actual relationship, no vanilla down time, no going grocery shopping together.

Why do you expect to have your subs stick around after the scene when you're advertising for subs for sessions only?


Oh good god, how dismal.

Could I gently advise certain femdoms of the following: It doesn't matter to malesubs of any quality that there are 100, 1000 or 1 sodding billion malesubs to every femdom. If you aren't right for him, he either won't go for you in the first place, or he'll use you then dump you if he does.

OP: I know that this is something that femdoms are used to saying - with some relish, so I've noted - to malesubs. However, it applies the reverse way more than some femdoms seem to realise. That is: Don't be lazy, don't think you'll get what you want just because you've announced that you want it. Raise your game and put some effort into it. Strive to be what quality malesubs are looking for, and don't bullshit yourself.

Whining femdoms. Oh dearie me - how boring.



NiceButMeanGirl -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 4:29:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer
Don't be lazy, don't think you'll get what you want just because you've announced that you want it. Raise your game and put some effort into it. Strive to be what quality malesubs are looking for, and don't bullshit yourself.

Whining femdoms. Oh dearie me - how boring.

That is so true!!!!!! [sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif]

NBMG



Rdwarrior -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/4/2012 6:43:58 PM)

Some subs have a romantic view of the idea of submission. As long as it is consensual they like it but when it is not what they want to do and it is truly submission it is different. It may be the first time that control was truly taken from them and they are scared. Sometimes it is enough to talk to them but if they run I rarely would consider them again.



SlaveSubtoserve -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 2:45:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven

I read your profile. It clearly states that you consider D/s to be sessions only. No actual relationship, no vanilla down time, no going grocery shopping together.

Why do you expect to have your subs stick around after the scene when you're advertising for subs for sessions only?


Oh good god, how dismal.

Could I gently advise certain femdoms of the following: It doesn't matter to malesubs of any quality that there are 100, 1000 or 1 sodding billion malesubs to every femdom. If you aren't right for him, he either won't go for you in the first place, or he'll use you then dump you if he does.

OP: I know that this is something that femdoms are used to saying - with some relish, so I've noted - to malesubs. However, it applies the reverse way more than some femdoms seem to realise. That is: Don't be lazy, don't think you'll get what you want just because you've announced that you want it. Raise your game and put some effort into it. Strive to be what quality malesubs are looking for, and don't bullshit yourself.

Whining femdoms. Oh dearie me - how boring.

quote:

Oh good god, how dismal.

Could I gently advise certain femdoms of the following: It doesn't matter to malesubs of any quality that there are 100, 1000 or 1 sodding billion malesubs to every femdom. If you aren't right for him, he either won't go for you in the first place, or he'll use you then dump you if he does.

OP: I know that this is something that femdoms are used to saying - with some relish, so I've noted - to malesubs. However, it applies the reverse way more than some femdoms seem to realise. That is: Don't be lazy, don't think you'll get what you want just because you've announced that you want it. Raise your game and put some effort into it. Strive to be what quality malesubs are looking for, and don't bullshit yourself.

Whining femdoms. Oh dearie me -



so true above by what Peon says.



Karmastic -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 4:05:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: SpaceSpank

Not enough information. Could be anything.

Quickest 2 reasons I can think of:

1) You were not what they were expecting/wanting and they ran.

2) They were very inexperienced and when it came down to it they just couldn't actually go through with it.

nail hit on the head!



HuCowMilkMaster2 -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 4:28:12 PM)

Actually, there is a wide variety of reasons associated with this situation. Since the popularity created by the advent of the Internet this philosophy and way of life has become highly convoluted with a whole bunch of new catchwords and words have been changed in their meaning and new words have been used. For example.... The term BDSM, SM, SUBMISSIVE have all sprung up since the popularity created by the internet.

Slave had only one meaning and that was the original meaning, now everybody has their own definition of what a slave is or isn't... This occured because the original way of life was to harsh and not so much fun... As the initial popularity started when the swingers wanted to have kink in their lifestyle. So the BDSM "lifestyle" emerged... over time it became so popular that it was "Cool" to be a slave or a Master... regardless if you had any formal training, regardless if you knew anything at all... And so places like this started seeing the money and created encounter web sites.

This started to attract all kind of people, those that were sincere but didn't have a clue, those that were insecure and became super advice givers believing their own garbage and giving our crappy information as they had little to no actual experience other than their unexperienced opinion pretending they knew something.

You had the predators that used this as an excuse to abuse women, you had the nerds that couldn[t get laid so they called themselves a Master or a dominant in order to get laid, you had women that now claimed to be mistrisses and were nothing more than dysfunctional women acting out and justifying their bad behavior, you had the teens that thought it was really cool and put it out to all their friends that they were cool... you had girls that were predators that scammed for money, you had girlse that lived in a fantasy world and were clueless to the reality... they didn't ahve to apply to entry into a house anymore and so with all the Masters running around with their dicks in their hands they could find ones that they thought they can manipulate and live there for free while only having to put out so often, and again you had the self sordained experts... the online jokeMasters that actually lied to themselves so much that they believed their own crap that they know something... of course they have had no real training and no real life as a real master.


This is why this is now a "Lifestyle" and a joke... This is why so called Masters have a revolving door for slaves and why slaves don't have a clue on how to be a slave... Nobody actually understands "real" training beyond forceing the slave to fuck a horse or something like that. It is all pretend and play because nobody knows the background philosophy anymore and nobody wants to put the real effort in to actually learn. It takes decades to actually earn the title of Master.

You want to know why this happens.... LOOK IN THE MIRROR



MistressDarkArt -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 5:35:24 PM)

[8|] Umm, thank you for that epic tome.[8|]

To the OP: They saw, they came, they split. Deal with it.



JeffBC -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 5:53:16 PM)

Uh... yeah sure.. because back in the golden age of BDSM when the women glowed and the men thundered I'm sure that none of this ever came up. You can't be serious right? You actually believe that there were consistent definitions for things? Man... where is Rover when we need him?



MstrDennynSlave -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 7:58:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: poise

I think the answer lies in the first line of your profile.
Being "mean" doesn't equal being dominant.



Also, your second paragraph states: "I can teach, but mainly you will do as I order." Who wants to be ordered around all the time? I'm a slave/lil girl. Master/Daddy did not expect me to know what to do when I first submitted to him. He taught me what I needed to know. He didn't order me around like a peon. True, he told me what to do. If I knew, I did it. If I didn't, he showed me. But it was not "do this, do that" simply because he was the Dominant and could do that.



MistressDarkArt -> RE: why do slaves/subs submit to a Dominant and then they do a turnabout (8/12/2012 8:52:57 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC

Uh... yeah sure.. because back in the golden age of BDSM when the women glowed and the men thundered I'm sure that none of this ever came up. You can't be serious right? You actually believe that there were consistent definitions for things? Man... where is Rover when we need him?


Jeff, if you read hucow dude's profile, I think all will become apparent. He's simply operating in some alternate reality that has nothing to do with this one.



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