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On July 17th, the Obama for America Campaign, the Democratic National Committee, and the Ohio Democratic Party filed suit in OH to strike down part of that state's law governing voting by members of the military. Their suit said that part of the law is "arbitrary" with "no discernible rational basis."

Currently, Ohio allows the public to vote early in-person up until the Friday before the election. Members of the military are given three extra days to do so. While the Democrats may see this as "arbitrary" and having "no discernible rational basis," I think it is entirely reasonable given the demands on servicemen and women's time and their obligations to their sworn duty.

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous. If you can't make it to your polling place, or you think you may not be able to, get an absentee ballot. Put it in the mail after you determine you won't be able to make it, or just send it in and don't bother to show up at the booth. In Ohio, you don't have to provide any rational reason for being absent, nor do you have to actually not be capable of showing up to vote absentee. I have voted absentee simply to avoid having to deal with polling place congestion.

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008

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Breitbart.com has fucked up.

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future.

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Of course people who write for Breitbart's websites lie. That is what their founder was all about.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous. If you can't make it to your polling place, or you think you may not be able to, get an absentee ballot. Put it in the mail after you determine you won't be able to make it, or just send it in and don't bother to show up at the booth. In Ohio, you don't have to provide any rational reason for being absent, nor do you have to actually not be capable of showing up to vote absentee. I have voted absentee simply to avoid having to deal with polling place congestion.

Do you have any proof that early voting resulted in any fraud? Making false assertions like that is one reason people don't respect things said by conservatives any more.

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008

First I've heard of this. Links please?

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ORIGINAL: joether
DS,
You should check out what Rachel Maddow had to say about this issue. The document she mentions of all the problems and irregularities can be found here. The fear from the Democrats seem to be not just militiary folks whose residents are in Ohio, but all the civilians as well.

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Of course people who write for Breitbart's websites lie. That is what their founder was all about.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous. If you can't make it to your polling place, or you think you may not be able to, get an absentee ballot. Put it in the mail after you determine you won't be able to make it, or just send it in and don't bother to show up at the booth. In Ohio, you don't have to provide any rational reason for being absent, nor do you have to actually not be capable of showing up to vote absentee. I have voted absentee simply to avoid having to deal with polling place congestion.

Do you have any proof that early voting resulted in any fraud? Making false assertions like that is one reason people don't respect things said by conservatives any more.

Said it was heavily manipulated. Never said there was any fraud. Can't prove there was any fraud, thus, I never stated there was any. Hundreds of thousands of registrations were never fully verified. And, since there was never full verification, no one knows if any were fraudulent or not. Not that it matters. ACORN was legally forced to permanently surrender it's business licenses in Ohio.

Do you have proof that Andrew Breitbart was all about lying? Yeah, turnabout is fair play.

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous.

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Of course people who write for Breitbart's websites lie. That is what their founder was all about.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous. If you can't make it to your polling place, or you think you may not be able to, get an absentee ballot. Put it in the mail after you determine you won't be able to make it, or just send it in and don't bother to show up at the booth. In Ohio, you don't have to provide any rational reason for being absent, nor do you have to actually not be capable of showing up to vote absentee. I have voted absentee simply to avoid having to deal with polling place congestion.

Do you have any proof that early voting resulted in any fraud? Making false assertions like that is one reason people don't respect things said by conservatives any more.

Said it was heavily manipulated. Never said there was any fraud. Can't prove there was any fraud, thus, I never stated there was any. Hundreds of thousands of registrations were never fully verified. And, since there was never full verification, no one knows if any were fraudulent or not. Not that it matters. ACORN was legally forced to permanently surrender it's business licenses in Ohio.
Do you have proof that Andrew Breitbart was all about lying? Yeah, turnabout is fair play.

Yes.
Shirley Sherrod
James O'keefe's ACORN story and all later fraudulent expose.

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And what exactly did you mean by heavily manipulated if you admit there was no fraud. If no one but legally registered citizens voted what possible complaint could you have?

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Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous.

How on earth was early voting "heavily manipulated" in 2008? What do you mean by that, and what is your source?
RE: absentee ballots methods in Ohio being simple and generous... That depends on who the Secretary of State is. Under Ken Blackwell, they were most certainly NEITHER simple, nor generous.

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Of course people who write for Breitbart's websites lie. That is what their founder was all about.

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ORIGINAL: DesideriScuri
Understand that I am absolutely not a fan of in-person early voting by any stretch. It was heavily manipulated in 2008, and will most likely continue to be abused in the future. The absentee ballot methods in Ohio are simple and generous. If you can't make it to your polling place, or you think you may not be able to, get an absentee ballot. Put it in the mail after you determine you won't be able to make it, or just send it in and don't bother to show up at the booth. In Ohio, you don't have to provide any rational reason for being absent, nor do you have to actually not be capable of showing up to vote absentee. I have voted absentee simply to avoid having to deal with polling place congestion.

Do you have any proof that early voting resulted in any fraud? Making false assertions like that is one reason people don't respect things said by conservatives any more.

Said it was heavily manipulated. Never said there was any fraud. Can't prove there was any fraud, thus, I never stated there was any. Hundreds of thousands of registrations were never fully verified. And, since there was never full verification, no one knows if any were fraudulent or not. Not that it matters. ACORN was legally forced to permanently surrender it's business licenses in Ohio.
Do you have proof that Andrew Breitbart was all about lying? Yeah, turnabout is fair play.

Yes.
Shirley Sherrod
James O'keefe's ACORN story and all later fraudulent expose.

I see. So, now, we have 3 people who work for or have worked for Breitbart, but there is what proof that Andrew Breitbart was "all about" lying (which was your allegation)?

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And what exactly did you mean by heavily manipulated if you admit there was no fraud. If no one but legally registered citizens voted what possible complaint could you have?

I don't doubt there was fraud perpetrated in Ohio for the 2008 campaign. There are bits and pieces about it, but nothing can be done to prove anything. Enough was proven of ACORN's Ohio-based business(es) for a RICO lawsuit to result in their permanent loss of Ohio licensing. That's not to say that ACORN was guilty as a National business, but the Ohio-based agencies were found thus.

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Desider, Does Ohio check to see that a person requesting an absentee ballot doesn't also vote in person? It seems to me that a large "old folks" home would have a fair number of elderly or senile who don't vote but are still citizens. Could someone request an absentee ballot in their names and cast votes? Or people in a mental institution or hospital who physically can't make it to the polls. Could someone send for an absentee ballot in their name and vote? There are lots of rest homes for the elderly, mental institutions and hospitals in Ohio. Does Ohio check the absentee ballots for abuse like this?

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He pushed the Shirley Sherrod lie and he pushed the many O'Keefe lies. He knew they we lies when he went in public and supported them and he knew they were lies when he published those lies on his websites.

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No. There was no substance to the case. ACORN settled because they were folding operations nationwide. You've believed lies.
Just to be clear there was never any evidence that an invalid registration filed by ACORN resulted in a fraudulent vote being cast. Also Ohio, as in most states, requires all registration forms that are filled out must be turned in even if they are known to be invalid. What the RW scum in Ohio were whining about was a small number of fraudulent registrations, a result of paid registrars trying to pad their paychecks.

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He pushed the Shirley Sherrod lie and he pushed the many O'Keefe lies. He knew they we lies when he went in public and supported them and he knew they were lies when he published those lies on his websites.

Source? Citations? Proof that Breitbart knew?

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No. There was no substance to the case. ACORN settled because they were folding operations nationwide. You've believed lies.
Just to be clear there was never any evidence that an invalid registration filed by ACORN resulted in a fraudulent vote being cast. Also Ohio, as in most states, requires all registration forms that are filled out must be turned in even if they are known to be invalid. What the RW scum in Ohio were whining about was a small number of fraudulent registrations, a result of paid registrars trying to pad their paychecks.

Source? Citations? Proof?

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Desider, Does Ohio check to see that a person requesting an absentee ballot doesn't also vote in person? It seems to me that a large "old folks" home would have a fair number of elderly or senile who don't vote but are still citizens. Could someone request an absentee ballot in their names and cast votes? Or people in a mental institution or hospital who physically can't make it to the polls. Could someone send for an absentee ballot in their name and vote? There are lots of rest homes for the elderly, mental institutions and hospitals in Ohio. Does Ohio check the absentee ballots for abuse like this?

Honestly don't know. I would assume they do check records to make sure someone isn't voting absentee and in-person. I can not, however, state one way or the other that this is the case.