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Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 12:12:41 PM   
LadyConstanze


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My female dog has a few lumps removed, the biopsy results said one of them was a sarcoma, most likely due to a trauma the cells suffered when she was attacked and bitten by another dog. The vet is positive that they have removed enough tissue and she's out of danger but cautioned us to keep an eye on the area, because if it would occur again it would be in the same area.

Has anybody any experience with this? Is there anything we can do to avoid it from reoccurring? The vet said nope, but I just want to check, I mean they also didn't know about leeches for arthritis, just thought I ask around here, since quite a few people seem to have cats and dogs...

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 12:35:38 PM   
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Lady C, you might want to check with holistic vets, and do a little research on Neoplasene: http://www.buckmountainbotanicals.net/treatments/neoplasene.html/ and Artemesinin: http://csuvets.colostate.edu/pain/Articlespdf/Ancient%20Chinese%20Herb%20Cures%20Cancer.pdf.

If you'd like a phone consultation w/a holitistic vet experienced with Neoplasene, PM me.

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 1:11:01 PM   
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The 2nd link didn't work...

According to the vet she's all clear now, we felt a lump under the skin and the pre-op biopsy was "not sure, potentially dangerous" since she had more lumps (all benign) and a lipoma in her armpit that if it would grow would hinder the movement, we decided to have them all removed once she's "under it" to avoid stress on her system.

Not sure if it is available in the UK, I'm looking into it, if so, would it be OK if I come back to you? Might be that I'm in the US for an extended period of time soon, and would bring the pets with me then, then it would be fab if there is a vet near LA who does that kind of treatment. Of course we hope that it's the end of it, because the vet said they have wide surgical margins, I'm still a bit uneasy about the whole thing.

July was a bad month for the pets, both cats were attacked by some aggressive tom (stupid owner doesn't care about having her cats neutered, I'm tempted to trap the aggressive bastard and have him neutered myself) and both had abscesses from the fights that needed to be drained and treated, both cats are now afraid to either leave or come in. I only hope the cat pisses all over her house, it's the 5th cat in as many years, she always gets toms because they can't get pregnant, most of them get run over because not neutered they roam, but she still doesn't see the point in getting them neutered...

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 1:32:46 PM   
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LadyC, if dog's had multiple cancerous tumors, it's likely systemically involved, so soley treating individual tumors may not do the trick. Neoplasene can be administered internally as topically, which can aid in resolving the internal issues. Sorry the Artemesisin link failed, you'll have to do a web search yourself. Of course you may contact me regarding your dog.

If a neighborhood cat was a menace to my cat, and the owner refused to neuter, I'd have no qualms about trapping and neutering it myself, or even just trapping and turning it in to animal control.

Don't know if they have such a thing in your neck of the woods, but here's a link to the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association that lists such vets and what modalities they practice.

http://ahvma.org/Widgets/FindVet.html

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 2:14:36 PM   
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No, wasn't multiple tumors, it was just one that was a sarcoma, a rather small one but me being overly panicky where the health of the dogs is concerned and it was a tiny little lump under hear ear that concerned me, exactly where she was bitten a few month ago...

The problem with the neighbor's cat is, technically (in the UK) pets are "things" so by castrating a cat, you are "damaging" the property of somebody else, to bring a cat to be neutered you have to be registered with a vet, since I had "words" with her several times about the non neutered cats, I think she would twig why her cat comes home walking like John Wayne, all she would need to do is check with the 6 different vets in town...

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 2:28:44 PM   
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I'm not a believer in a lot of these
cancer cures... I have been told drinking
ozone water, eating broccoli and a host
of other things are cancer treatments,
while I do believe you can effect cancer
in the body by a radical change in diet,
I find the idea of "herbal chemotherapy"
absoloutly ridicules. Not to say if I had
cancer I wouldn't try it...
I'm not sure if theres anything you can
do ladyC, Best of luck with her recovery!

-ARIES

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 5:02:47 PM   
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ridiculous* even

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 7:16:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

My female dog has a few lumps removed, the biopsy results said one of them was a sarcoma, most likely due to a trauma the cells suffered when she was attacked and bitten by another dog. The vet is positive that they have removed enough tissue and she's out of danger but cautioned us to keep an eye on the area, because if it would occur again it would be in the same area.

Has anybody any experience with this? Is there anything we can do to avoid it from reoccurring? The vet said nope, but I just want to check, I mean they also didn't know about leeches for arthritis, just thought I ask around here, since quite a few people seem to have cats and dogs...


No, I have no experience with this but I do hope your little buddy gets better :(

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 7:18:41 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze

No, wasn't multiple tumors, it was just one that was a sarcoma, a rather small one but me being overly panicky where the health of the dogs is concerned and it was a tiny little lump under hear ear that concerned me, exactly where she was bitten a few month ago...

The problem with the neighbor's cat is, technically (in the UK) pets are "things" so by castrating a cat, you are "damaging" the property of somebody else, to bring a cat to be neutered you have to be registered with a vet, since I had "words" with her several times about the non neutered cats, I think she would twig why her cat comes home walking like John Wayne, all she would need to do is check with the 6 different vets in town...


Honey...I'd have no problem breaking the law in this case.

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/4/2012 8:37:46 PM   
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I wouldn't want to face a lawsuit for an ungrateful neighbor's newly neutered cat, so I guess I'd just trap & disappear him one night at the not so local humane society. Some have night drop off boxes where you don't have to identify yourself. Maybe doo doo headed owner won't try looking for him if it's in another county.

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RE: Sarcoma - 8/5/2012 4:24:53 AM   
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Personally I think it would also be a good idea to neuter the owner to avoid her passing on her genes bit to late though...

My regular vet is currently on vacation with her family, but she's fuming about somebody who doesn't fix their cats, she mentioned that they are big risk for spreading diseases and chances are that if an owner doesn't neuter cats, they might also not vaccinate the cat and it's spreading diseases through the cat population on account of being more aggressive and territorial than neutered cats. Maybe I could suggest that I book in as Ms Smith, pay cash and have the cat neutered... Due to her and her non neutered cats we changed the cat flap to an electronic one that will only let our chipped cats in, otherwise we had her pissing monsters peeing all over our house and going for the cats and dogs (I don't know what she does to her cats, feed them roids or something, cats attacking big Dobies is not quite normal).
When I told her about her cats coming in and peeing around and attacking ours, she said "It's what cats do", when I said she should have them neutered, she told me that it is not "natural", really makes me wonder if her house has a very natural smell of cat piss... I'm not surprised that the cats try to move in with others (and chase the cats away that live in other houses), she doesn't have a cat flap and I sometimes rang her bell so she would let her cats in when they stood outside in the rain and screamed their heads off... Oh yeah, and the noise during mating season is also not really great...

As for Kia, the vet thinks the sarcoma is taken care of with wide surgical margins, it was just a single one, the other lumps were just the normal lumps dogs often get (lipoma and the dog equivalent of a mole or wart), so only one was dangerous, it's just that anesthetics are hard on the system so we thought if she has to have them, we let them do everything else as well. I was just wondering if there is anything to boost the immune system and stop it, of course I try to make sure that she isn't bitten again, but anything additionally to prevent it. What I will do is pay attention where the other dog sniffs, because that is how we found the very small lump (just the size of a pin head, the ones with the little round glass beads at the end, we possibly would have missed it if Alf wouldn't have nozzled her there all the time and sniffed), you could barely feel it with the hand

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