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slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:02:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaved9 My fantasy is to be almost objectified to her without much or any regard to me existing in her world. I would not even want to actively communicate with her except to give her any necessary information in the process of her using me. As I explained earlier, I am looking for something very specific. You are right that I am sort of topping from the bottom by demanding that it be this certain situation. However the fantasy is not really a straight forward domme/sub relationship. In this case I am looking to introduce something and if it is accepted...then I would just be used by her. I realize its not a good idea to even approach her about this, and thus I wont. In this case I guess I was just seeking something that cannot really be felt physically but would just be a mental thing. I would essentially allow her to use me and I would become her object, and not something she thinks about. For example...if I paid some of her bills and over time she knew she did not need to give me attention or talk to me at all, but I was still paying some bills. I'm having a bit of trouble expressing it properly I believe, but its a sort of "objectified" feeling that I would get out of it. If I was to actually express this desire to her, I would let her determine what she would want to do as far as how its done though.

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:05:54 PM)
It does matter that it is her though and not some random person that I have no relationship or past relationship with. Its the fact that she was dominant towards me in our relationship and my thought is deep down she probably wouldn't mind using me in some form that she did not have to see or have much contact with me. But of course that thought does not make this realistic nor make it reasonable for me to approach her with this.

mnottertail -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:11:19 PM)
See, and it aint that nobody feels ya.....It is just in the way that every woman out here has tried to subtleiciously try to tell you they are wired. Look, to be frank yeah you might find that, its rather doubtful, you would have more luck with modifications like say a cuckold, but you need to deliver that girl to a bull. Cuz the woman is gonna want relationships, (dont have to be with you, although you could hang out)....or you are going to pay money and be provided a service between here and there and no other encumbrances on the woman. Hey, goddammit, some of you women translate that shit for me, I ain't good at the explanation of all that wind blowing around and gum and cigarrette wrappers you got blowing around up in there.

OsideGirl -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:11:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slaved9 quote: ORIGINAL: slaved9 My fantasy is to be almost objectified to her without much or any regard to me existing in her world. I would not even want to actively communicate with her except to give her any necessary information in the process of her using me. As I explained earlier, I am looking for something very specific. You are right that I am sort of topping from the bottom by demanding that it be this certain situation. However the fantasy is not really a straight forward domme/sub relationship. In this case I am looking to introduce something and if it is accepted...then I would just be used by her. I realize its not a good idea to even approach her about this, and thus I wont. In this case I guess I was just seeking something that cannot really be felt physically but would just be a mental thing. I would essentially allow her to use me and I would become her object, and not something she thinks about. For example...if I paid some of her bills and over time she knew she did not need to give me attention or talk to me at all, but I was still paying some bills. I'm having a bit of trouble expressing it properly I believe, but its a sort of "objectified" feeling that I would get out of it. If I was to actually express this desire to her, I would let her determine what she would want to do as far as how its done though. You're still not getting it. You want to ask a woman who is not dominant to objectify you. It's not her using you, it's you using her to get your fetish delivered so you have something to wank over. Your penis is supplying the logic, so you keep trying to justify it.

GreedyTop -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:14:22 PM)
sigh I get why the idea is hot (well, not really, but I accept that the idea is hot to you). But seriously, DON'T!! for all the reasons posted before. Do you really want a restraining order slapped on your ass? It sounded, for a minute, like you were going to let it fall into fantasy land, but you keep coming back with the "blah blah blah". To ME that says you have NOT let it go. Either that, or you're looking for wank fodder. JMNSHO, YMMV.

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:18:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: OsideGirl You're still not getting it. You want to ask a woman who is not dominant to objectify you. It's not her using you, it's you using her to get your fetish delivered so you have something to wank over. Your penis is supplying the logic, so you keep trying to justify it. I understand what your saying. She would never come to me to ask if I want to be your financial slave...and I get that. So in that way she would not be directly seeking it. I would just want to propose the idea to her and she if she would be interested. If she is not interested than we go back to never speaking. If she was interested, I would not tell her what to do or how to use me directly. I would tell her what I have to offer as far as whether its information or whatever...and then she decides what she wants. If it isn't exactly how I have fantasized, then that is fine with me honestly. I really am not to the point of making it work even though its not realistic. I just want to get advice on this idea and fantasy. I know its crazy...but I am being honest when I say its something I have thought about a lot and its really not wanking material for me. It just isnt.

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:21:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail See, and it aint that nobody feels ya.....It is just in the way that every woman out here has tried to subtleiciously try to tell you they are wired. Look, to be frank yeah you might find that, its rather doubtful, you would have more luck with modifications like say a cuckold, but you need to deliver that girl to a bull. Cuz the woman is gonna want relationships, (dont have to be with you, although you could hang out)....or you are going to pay money and be provided a service between here and there and no other encumbrances on the woman. Hey, goddammit, some of you women translate that shit for me, I ain't good at the explanation of all that wind blowing around and gum and cigarrette wrappers you got blowing around up in there. I appreciate your honest advice. I really do. I have no direct impact on her life anymore, as she is my ex. But I agree with what your saying. The problem lies in the fact that its not just "wanking" fodder for me. If it was than I would honestly just pay someone to use me like that...but it just isn't the same to me. I'm not a depressed person, but I am a very submissive person...and I honestly have never felt more submissive to someone than my ex. I desperately want her to use me, but I will not make her use me at all.

mnottertail -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:24:57 PM)
Dude, you are a cuck without the bird and without the bull. That is a very long road to hoe. George Kennedy and Paul Newman

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:25:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop sigh I get why the idea is hot (well, not really, but I accept that the idea is hot to you). But seriously, DON'T!! for all the reasons posted before. Do you really want a restraining order slapped on your ass? It sounded, for a minute, like you were going to let it fall into fantasy land, but you keep coming back with the "blah blah blah". To ME that says you have NOT let it go. Either that, or you're looking for wank fodder. JMNSHO, YMMV. First, its not wank fodder for me. I know that can be hard to believe with the over abundance of wankers that probably exist on sites like this. I am not getting off on debating whether its right or not, or just even thinking about it. You are right that I am battling with the fantasy vs. reality part. Its not that I am just trying to justify it no matter what, but it is something I have had on my mind before for a while. The fact is that this is best left in fantasy land.

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:27:08 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Dude, you are a cuck without the bird and without the bull. That is a very long road to hoe. George Kennedy and Paul Newman Your definitely right about that.

kalikshama -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:33:28 PM)
KNEEL BITCH AND PAY FOR MY OIL CONTROL VALVE REPAIR! When you've done that, write this 1,000 times: You're is the contracted form of You are. This form is used in sentences using "you" as the subject of the sentence with the verb "to be" used as either the helping verb (e.g. You're going ..., You're watching ...You're right) or the principal verb of the sentence. Your is the possessive pronoun form. This form is used to express that something belongs to "you".

OsideGirl -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:35:21 PM)
I give up. You're so busy looking at the world through your penis, you just keep trying to justify getting a woman to fulfill your fantasy and deliver your fetish.

kalikshama -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:35:52 PM)
nvm

mnottertail -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:37:18 PM)
ok, your loss.....

GreedyTop -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:38:54 PM)
yep. what Oside said. let us know when (and/or IF ) you become less dick-centric and might actually realize that there is another HUMAN (with wants/needs/desires/preferences/etc) on the other side of your fantasy. You said she hates you. Go with that.

kalikshama -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:39:15 PM)
I hemmed my pants and should know by next week if I got lucky. ETA - put it back, I just edited cuz my second post made less sense once OG posted in between - I wasn't nvm you ;)

mnottertail -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:44:59 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kalikshama KNEEL BITCH AND PAY FOR MY OIL CONTROL VALVE REPAIR! And then drive the bitch to my house, I have a use for her, you can wait in the car the first few times and hem her pants again and write up something for the CM positive experiences forum. And if the valve don't hold, I'm beating her ass, and she is gonna beat yours. Shit is gonna run downhill like their aint no tomorrow.

slaved9 -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:45:03 PM)
Honestly, I give up as well. I know that contacting my ex about this is the wrong thing to do, which is why I haven't done it yet. But I am being honest about it not being a wanker fantasy and am not going to just keep saying its not. Since you don't believe me then this thread is pointless.

mnottertail -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:48:12 PM)
well, sometimes you gotta pull stumps. you got this one fucked up without a chance of unfucking it. be clearer up front and a little less authoritative on how its got to be. Not the first thing, not the last thing and certainly not the only thing, explore <<<<<I mean that in the dictionary sense the concepts..........slowly and see if she has any like of that sort of life, if at all. The way you are going about this, you might as well hunt lipstick lesbians for a relationship. its gonna be as effective the first last and always time.....

kalikshama -> RE: Question about my ex... (8/7/2012 3:50:10 PM)
Perhaps you are defining wanker fantasy differently than we are - what's your definition and how does your scenario not meet it?

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