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Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ President - 8/17/2012 7:41:07 AM   
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Well.....there it is.....


"The killing of Osama bin Laden is often considered one of the highlights of President Obama’s first term as President and more specifically, as Commander-in-Chief. In his first interview, Admiral William McRaven, the Admiral in charge of the invasion that successfully captured and killed the master mind behind the 9/11 attacks. He had some stellar words about the man whom he credits with making the greatest decisions on that now infamous night, President Obama. From CNN’s The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer (emphasis added):




BLITZER: We always think of, in recent years, of course, at least in the past year, with admiral McRaven, as the orchestrator, the architect of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. And you know, we’ve all read a lot about it. I know Peter Bergen is here, he’s written a whole book about it, an excellent book about it. But this is the guy who’s sitting right here, who had the guts to tell the commander in chief, we should do it, let’s do it, and when you ordered that raid, and when you said, you think — you didn’t even know for sure that bin Laden was in a Abbottabad in that compound, about a mile or so away from the west point of Pakistan, did you?

ADMIRAL WILLIAM MCRAVEN, COMMANDER, U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Well, let me make one thing clear, I didn’t order the raid.

(LAUGHTER)

BLITZER: But he told the president of the United States that he thought he could do it.

MCRAVEN: And this is not a small point. The fact of the matter is, it was the president of the United States that ordered the raid.

BLITZER: And he deserves an enormous amount of credit for that decision.
The killing of Osama bin Laden is often considered one of the highlights of President Obama’s first term as President and more specifically, as Commander-in-Chief. In his first interview, Admiral William McRaven, the Admiral in charge of the invasion that successfully captured and killed the master mind behind the 9/11 attacks. He had some stellar words about the man whom he credits with making the greatest decisions on that now infamous night, President Obama. From CNN’s The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer (emphasis added):


BLITZER: We always think of, in recent years, of course, at least in the past year, with admiral McRaven, as the orchestrator, the architect of the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. And you know, we’ve all read a lot about it. I know Peter Bergen is here, he’s written a whole book about it, an excellent book about it. But this is the guy who’s sitting right here, who had the guts to tell the commander in chief, we should do it, let’s do it, and when you ordered that raid, and when you said, you think — you didn’t even know for sure that bin Laden was in a Abbottabad in that compound, about a mile or so away from the west point of Pakistan, did you?

ADMIRAL WILLIAM MCRAVEN, COMMANDER, U.S. SPECIAL OPERATIONS: Well, let me make one thing clear, I didn’t order the raid.

(LAUGHTER)

BLITZER: But he told the president of the United States that he thought he could do it.

MCRAVEN: And this is not a small point. The fact of the matter is, it was the president of the United States that ordered the raid.

BLITZER: And he deserves an enormous amount of credit for that decision.

MCRAVEN: Absolutely, he does.

BLITZER: What kind of commander in chief is he?

MCRAVEN: The president of the United States? Fantastic. Again, I’m not a political guy. I’ve worked in both administrations. I very much enjoyed working for President Bush. And I very much enjoy working for President Obama.

And it’s, again, this isn’t about politics but a commander in chief who I have the opportunity to engage with on a routine basis. And watching him and the decisions he makes along with his national security team. They’re a very impressive group of guys and gals."


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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 8:08:37 AM   
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But but but the Chickenhawks say he sucks.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 8:18:47 AM   
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Where the fuck is this Admirals birth certificate? Goddamn muslim socialist.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 8:50:31 AM   
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I'm curious to know how the good Admiral feels about those 20 members of Seal Team 6 who were among the 32 killed in Afghanistan when insurgents shot down a U.S. Marine Chinook helicopter barely 90 days after Obama proudly proclaimed that Seal Team 6 had killed Osama bin Laden?

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 8:54:26 AM   
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I`m sure he feels pretty bad about it.For their families and loved ones too.


Another con,trying to exploit a tragedy for points.....and fun.....




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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 9:00:35 AM   
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Where the fuck is this Admirals birth certificate? Goddamn muslim socialist.

What the fuck happened to the required under Hawaii election law certifying phrase "under provisions of the United States Constitution" that was edited out of the 2008 Democratic Party of Hawaii's 2008 "Official Certification Of Nomination" which was submited to the 2008 Chief Elections Officer of Hawaii? Goddamn facts.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 9:05:07 AM   
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Where the fuck is this Admirals birth certificate? Goddamn muslim socialist.

What the fuck happened to the required under Hawaii election law certifying phrase "under provisions of the United States Constitution" that was edited out of the 2008 Democratic Party of Hawaii's 2008 "Official Certification Of Nomination" which was submited to the 2008 Chief Elections Officer of Hawaii? Goddamn facts.

What the fuck happened to birthers bothering to post on topic instead of trying to exploit a tragedy for political gain?

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 9:12:32 AM   
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LOL....Moving the goal posts are you Jimmy boy?....Just hate it when there is something positive about the President, don't you?

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 9:17:05 AM   
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quote:

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Where the fuck is this Admirals birth certificate? Goddamn muslim socialist.

What the fuck happened to the required under Hawaii election law certifying phrase "under provisions of the United States Constitution" that was edited out of the 2008 Democratic Party of Hawaii's 2008 "Official Certification Of Nomination" which was submited to the 2008 Chief Elections Officer of Hawaii? Goddamn facts.

Emmm, no....

God dammed bigotry.



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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 9:20:38 AM   
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Hold it, Adm. M. was running as a democrat in 2008 from Hawaii?

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 12:31:22 PM   
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Whew, it's a good thing that Blitzer wasn't asking any leading questions, wasn't it?

It was a huge decision, there is no doubt. One, I would have also made, in that spot. Hindsight being what it is, though, did we just kill someone who had not been granted a trial? Isn't that a mainstay of our judicial system? And, I'm not saying Obama was any less American for making the choice he made. I already said that I would have made the same decision. I wouldn't believe it if someone said Bush II wouldn't have made the same decision.

How many here would have made the same decision President Obama made?

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 1:21:28 PM   
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quote:

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Whew, it's a good thing that Blitzer wasn't asking any leading questions, wasn't it?

It was a huge decision, there is no doubt. One, I would have also made, in that spot. Hindsight being what it is, though, did we just kill someone who had not been granted a trial? Isn't that a mainstay of our judicial system? And, I'm not saying Obama was any less American for making the choice he made. I already said that I would have made the same decision. I wouldn't believe it if someone said Bush II wouldn't have made the same decision.

How many here would have made the same decision President Obama made?



I am anti-war and anti-death penalty.

My thought has been this: had they taken him alive it would have caused more problems and aggression against the US would have heated up in efforts to bully us into releasing him.

With him dead, he was just another casualty of their war against us.

As a war strategy, it was better that he died.


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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 1:22:16 PM   
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LOL....Moving the goal posts are you Jimmy boy?....Just hate it when there is something positive about the President, don't you?

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Come on pal,be nice to RacistJim...the brother can't help himself,all tied up in ignorance,fear and hate.
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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 1:33:47 PM   
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How many here would have made the same decision President Obama made?


If it were me, he would be deader than Julius Caesar.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 2:08:34 PM   
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Where the fuck is this Admirals birth certificate? Goddamn muslim socialist.


It's a secret... But don't worry... if R.O. asks for his... well ... you know...


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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 2:10:52 PM   
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What the fuck happened to the required under Hawaii election law certifying phrase "under provisions of the United States Constitution" that was edited out of the 2008 Democratic Party of Hawaii's 2008 "Official Certification Of Nomination" which was submited to the 2008 Chief Elections Officer of Hawaii? Goddamn facts.



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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 2:23:53 PM   
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quote:

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Whew, it's a good thing that Blitzer wasn't asking any leading questions, wasn't it?

It was a huge decision, there is no doubt. One, I would have also made, in that spot. Hindsight being what it is, though, did we just kill someone who had not been granted a trial? Isn't that a mainstay of our judicial system? And, I'm not saying Obama was any less American for making the choice he made. I already said that I would have made the same decision. I wouldn't believe it if someone said Bush II wouldn't have made the same decision.

How many here would have made the same decision President Obama made?


Yeah, that decision is bothering me a lot. On the one hand, it violated some of the normal laws of war. On the other hand, it was a helluva lot cheaper and less messy that invading and starting a war, and far less collateral damage. I wish there was another way.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 2:36:57 PM   
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It was a huge decision, there is no doubt. One, I would have also made, in that spot. Hindsight being what it is, though, did we just kill someone who had not been granted a trial?


I agree, it was a HUGE decision, morally, diplomatically, spiritually, and politically (it's been said the same set of opportunities were offered Bush several times and the political cost greatly affected his decision.).
With that said, Bush II and Ashcroft penned SIGNIFICANT changes to legislature prior to 2001 thought impossible to pass. That became our beloved Patriot Act which Bush shoved down everyone's throat at perril of seeming <ahem> Un-Americana. It fully included assassination of non-military combatants at the pleasure of government agents well below the executive branch.

So why not debate whether the previous President's liquidation of volumes of standing law in favor of the Patriot Act was in fact the 'moral' issue? As opposed to a President lawfully executing his powers to end a huge symbol of fear amongst Americans for the better part of a decade.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 5:20:31 PM   
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Yeah, that decision is bothering me a lot. On the one hand, it violated some of the normal laws of war. On the other hand, it was a helluva lot cheaper and less messy that invading and starting a war, and far less collateral damage. I wish there was another way.


During the '08 primaries, Obama was hammered by Clinton, Biden and everybody else for vowing to do things in the exact way he did them, should the opportunity arise.

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RE: Seal Team 6 Admiral, Obama Is ‘Fantastic’ Presi... - 8/17/2012 5:27:10 PM   
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"How many here would have made the same decision President Obama made?"


This is a good point and we`re glad you brought it up....


The envious cons say that it was a no brainer decision....anyone would`ve made the same decision....

But, as the commander pointed out and has been pointed out many of the reports, the mission was fraught with tons of downsides and risks.

"We were not sure he was there and again,that gets back to some tough decisions that were made" referring to the President.



Now............. for Mittens and many republicans....... who have either said they wouldn`t have gone after bin-laden or the equivalent,bashing the President when he announce out loud and proudly,that he would go after our enemies, whereever they were..................regardless, of where they where.

Even if they were in "friendly" countries...............like Pakistan.



Boy when the President make that tough decision....the cons went wild....including and especially Mittens, about how wrong that was and other such nonsense.....thinking they had an issue.



Now that bin-laden is dead........our quaint Mittens is all.." of course I would have ordered the raid" ....What a fucking pussie assed liar he is.



I bet he doesn`t even remember what he said before bin-laden`s death.His dupes certainly want to forget.



But the American people haven`t forgotten.....



They never forgot bin-laden and they haven`t forgotten who got him or who`s flip-flopping now that obl is dead.


It wasn`t an easy decision...as the comander pointed out.


His word,is equal to or better than ever single conservative`s put together.........and then some.


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