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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:17:26 AM

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Those on the 'left' don't seem to mind that Bill Clinton also avoided the draft. Didn't he run off to Russsia and a few other European countries ?

Ted Kennedy
Bill "Rhodes Scholar" Clinton
Barney Frank
Chuck Schumer

We can list every politician who dodged the draft, what's the point? It happened FORTY FUCKING YEARS AGO.

And why do you give a shit about what Romney says, you aren't voting for him anyway...

Do you honestly believe that posting this drivel is going to change anyone's mind about voting for or against Romney? The lines are already drawn, and there are no undecided posting on these forums, your either pro Obama or anti Obama seeing how he's the guy in charge, and has been for the last 3 miserable years.

Well, we know you aint voting for democrats, but you want to bring up stuff about them.

And you left off your list

George W Bush
Dick Cheney
Wolfowitz
actually, the entire bush administration come to that. Nobody is voting for them, you didn't bring them up.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:25:02 AM

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George Bush was in the reserves. Dan Rather got fired for lying about his service records.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:30:22 AM

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When he bothered to show up.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:32:24 AM

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Kerry and Gore both served in Viet Nam.

Bush hid in the reserves aided by "Senator Daddy". Nice job of chickenhawking there servant.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:36:38 AM

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George Bush was in the reserves. Dan Rather got fired for lying about his service records.

Reserves went to viet nam, but he jumped a 200 list to get into it, and didnt show up. Dan Rather did not get fired for lying, but it was that he didnt have enough documentation to to stand against a sitting president.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:37:08 AM

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Kerry and Gore both served in Viet Nam.

Bush hid in the reserves aided by "Senator Daddy". Nice job of chickenhawking there servant.

I recall W saying the Service and he "had come to an agreement" for him to leave his obligation early (Harvard Business School took priority).

Any of you other Vets out there, can you see yourselves getting into an agreement ( checking out early)?

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:47:14 AM

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Those on the 'left' don't seem to mind that Bill Clinton also avoided the draft. Didn't he run off to Russsia and a few other European countries ?

Clinton opposed the war and stood by his beliefs.

Romney demonstrated in favor of the war but still didn't serve.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:51:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: hlen5

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Kerry and Gore both served in Viet Nam.

Bush hid in the reserves aided by "Senator Daddy". Nice job of chickenhawking there servant.

I recall W saying the Service and he "had come to an agreement" for him to leave his obligation early (Harvard Business School took priority).

Any of you other Vets out there, can you see yourselves getting into an agreement ( checking out early)?

I served every day of my contract. W's daddy did institute an early out program around the time I was getting out but I didn't qualify (my rating was undermanned already).

W deserted but didn't get prosecuted because his family had pull.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 11:56:51 AM

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........I served every day of my contract. W's daddy did institute an early out program around the time I was getting out but I didn't qualify (my rating was undermanned already).

W deserted but didn't get prosecuted because his family had pull.

That's exactly the point I was trying to make!!

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 6:30:30 PM

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By law.....you had to go and fight.....unless you were lucky like Mitt or a complete coward like Ted Nugent.

That's complete, ignorant nonsense, Owner59, though it fun to watch you try to both attack Romney for taking completely legal and legitimate deferrals, while celebrating Wild Bill, all on the same page of the same thread.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 6:39:58 PM

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Yes, and at the time Republicans made it seem like he was Satan himself over it.

Time for you guys to be consistent.

Your candidate is a dud who cares only about himself and his 1% social club. He will make policies that harm America and specifically each of us here to varying degrees. Romney is backed by people who are strictly tied to a religious ideological dogma that has repeatedly shown direct intent to cause harm to millions of Americans by restricting liberty, choice, and basic freedoms. Further, they are people who will not compromise, nor reason. Further, they hold to the concept that "it is not enough that I must win, but that you must lose" as has been shown over the past 4 years with so many lies and half-truths created to combat America - not just Obama, but America.

We may not agree with everything Obama has done over the past 4 years, but I believe that he really does care about America and has done his best to make policies that help all Americans as much as he can. He is not an idealog, he is an idealist who is actually capable of compromise and reason. He wants America to win - all Americans, even you and me.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 6:40:08 PM

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Do you honestly believe that posting this drivel is going to change anyone's mind about voting for or against Romney?

Well then, why do you do it all the time?

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 6:44:34 PM

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To important???

Is Willard now telling us that his daddy had been tailoring him for the presidency his entire life?? That's what it sounds like to me.

But maybe daddy simply meant 'you're too important to ME. I don't want you going off and getting killed"...and Willard is now distorting that story to imply the White House is his destiny.

If Willard believes that, he'll have to come to believe in lost destiny when Obama takes a second term.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 6:55:10 PM

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Willard is now distorting that story to imply the White House is his destiny.

No doubt he believes exactly that - it was his 'God-given duty', which is entirely consistent with the 1%ers who consider themselves too good for such mundane nonsense like paying taxes, obeying laws, etc.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 7:38:43 PM

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Because Clinton stood by his beliefs that was ok to be a draft dodger. When Mitt went to school that wasn't ok to be a draft dodger. I get it now. Another double standard.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 7:51:02 PM

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Did Clinton support the war like Mittens did ?

Mitt isn`t running against Bill Clinton.

Again.....it`s not the service.

It`s the hypocricy....

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 8:16:07 PM

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Because Clinton stood by his beliefs that was ok to be a draft dodger. When Mitt went to school that wasn't ok to be a draft dodger. I get it now. Another double standard.

Romney demonstrated in favor of the war, was of age to enlist, was physically able to serve but he sought a deferment to go preech to the french. How is that honorable? If you think others should be put in harms way you should be willing to do so yourself.

Clinton opposed the war and did his best to avoid going. Maybe not honorable but not dishonorable and hypcritical like Romney.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 8:20:59 PM

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Did his best to avoid going? He took off to Russia..Nice spin though.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 8:23:46 PM

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It`d be one thing if Mittens didn`t support the war.

But he did................and then let his peers fight, kill and die ......

He`s a pussy.

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RE: To Important to Serve in Vietnam - 8/21/2012 8:52:07 PM

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Clinton also didn't run on expanding the already bloated military.

Instead, he presided over the longest peace time economic expansion in our nation's history.

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