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kalikshama -> Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:16:15 PM)

Tuesday, August 21, 2:18 PM

Righting back against enormous pressure by Republican leaders to drop out of the U.S. Senate race in Missouri, Rep. Todd Akin used a radio interview Tuesday to turn his embattled campaign into a cause for “the regular people” against “the big party people.”

In an afternoon interview on Mike Huckabee’s radio show, Akin said he would stick to his decision to stay in the race and accused his critics of “overreaction” to his use of the phrase “legitimate rape” when talking about abortion and pregnancy. The remarks have incited fury among liberals and conservatives alike, and GOP leaders have demanded that Akin end his bid to unseat Democratic Sen. Claire McCaskill.

“I’ve had a chance now to have run through a primary, and the party people said when you win the primary then we’ll be with you. Well, they were with us. Then I said one word and one sentence on one day, and everything changed,” Akin told Huckabee, an early supporter. “I haven’t done anything morally or ethically wrong. It does seem like a little bit of an overreaction.”

He then went on to liken his decision to a type of crusade. “We believe taking this stand is going to strengthen our country -- going to strengthen, ultimately, the Republican Party,” he said. “What we’re doing here is standing on a principle of what America is.”

Akin said that his supporters and “good friends, closer than brothers,” had asked him to stick it out. He added that he has received “continuing calls from other congressman” expressing their support. (He did not name any of these congressman.)

He compared his race to the GOP primary, when he was outraised by rivals and lacked institutional backing. And he referred to the potential to attract more independent voters. “I realize that there are now a lot of other bravehearts that don’t fit into the political parties exactly,” he said. “I believe there is a cause here, and there is a part of the message that’s missing, and a lot of the people feel left out of the parties.

“What we’re seeing right now is a tremendous outpouring of support from just regular small people,” he said. “They’re not the big party people.”

Republicans were hoping Akin would heed their calls to withdraw from the race and preserve the party’s chances to take back the upper house.

Akin has said repeatedly that he has no intention of ending his campaign, even as his prospects of winning have likely been diminished with Republican leaders pulling financial support from the contest and denouncing his comments.

Tuesday morning, with a 5 p.m. deadline for stepping aside without a court order looming, Akin released a new campaign commercial called “Forgiveness.”

“Rape is an evil act,” he says in the 30-second ad. “I used the wrong words in the wrong way, and for that I apologize.”

According to reports, the spot is part of a $150,000 ad buy set to run through Aug. 27, suggesting that Akin has dug in his heels, at least for now.

If Akin decides to withdraw, Republicans can select a replacement. But if he remains a candidate, he would have until Sept. 25 to petition a court to be removed from the ballot if he changed his mind.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/gop-eye-tuesday-deadline-for-akin/2012/08/21/fcf695a2-eb8c-11e1-9ddc-340d5efb1e9c_story.html




hlen5 -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:18:08 PM)

Yay!!! I mean,


Yay!!!




kalikshama -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:20:03 PM)

Rep. Todd Akin is wrong about rape and pregnancy, but he’s not alone

Rep. Todd Akin, Missouri’s Republican Senate nominee, caused a public outcry Sunday when he told a local television station that “legitimate rape” rarely leads to pregnancy.

“First of all, from what I understand from doctors [pregnancy from rape] is really rare,” Akin, the Republican Senate nominee in Missouri, said. ”If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down.”

Akin later issued an apology, saying he “misspoke” when he made an “off-the-cuff” remark. Empirical evidence suggests that he is indeed wrong: Research published in the Journal of American Obstetrics and Gynecology suggests over 30,000 pregnancies result from rape annually. “Rape-related pregnancy occurs with significant frequency,” the trio of researchers from the University of South Carolina concluded. “It is a cause of many unwanted pregnancies.”

A separate 2001 study – which used a sample of 405 rape victims between ages 12 and 45 – found that 6.4 percent became pregnant.

But while Akin is wrong in his assertion about rape and pregnancy, he certainly isn’t alone. His remarks tapped into a strain of thinking that dates back to at least the 1980s, with anti-abortion politicians from Pennsylvania to Arkansas making the case that the trauma of rape can often prevent pregnancy. The argument does not come up frequently, but when it does, it nearly always leads to political controversy.

Pennsylvania state Rep. Stephen Freind (R) was an ardent abortion opponent. He authored legislation that included one of the the nation’s first abortion waiting periods, and the case went all the way to the Supreme Court.

He also looks to be the first legislator to make the argument that rape prevents pregnancy, arguing in the late 1980s that the odds of a pregnancy resulting from rape were “one in millions and millions and millions.”

His explanation? The trauma of rape causes women to “secrete a certain secretion which has the tendency to kill sperm.” Reproductive health experts immediately denounced those remarks. One told the Philadelphia Inquirer, ”Boy, if I could find out what that [secretion] was, I’d use it as a contraceptive.”

The argument was dormant for about a decade, until the late 1990s. That’s when a North Carolina legislator, whom Garance Franke-Ruta points to, extended the argument to question whether there should actually be a rape exception from abortion restrictions, given that ”The facts show that people who are raped – truly raped – the juices don’t flow.”

Arkansas politician Fay Boozman followed up during during his 1998 Senate campaign by arguing that “fear-induced hormonal changes could block a rape victim’s ability to conceive.” Those remarks lead to a backlash when then-Gov. Mike Huckabee tapped Boozman to run the state’s health department.

The argument was most recently – and perhaps most fully – articulated by National Right to Life president John Wilke in a 1999 essay titled “Rape Pregnancies Are Rare.” Wilke made a pretty similar case to Akin: That the “physical trauma” of rape has a way of preventing pregnancy.

“To get and stay pregnant a woman’s body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones,” Wilke wrote. “There’s no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy.”

The scientific evidence for this proposition is, unsurprisingly, shaky. Freind later backed off his theory about secretions, switching to an argument that rape would instead “delay, disrupt or prohibit ovulation by preventing the release of hormone-triggering factors.”

Wilke, the former Right to Life president, does not cite any evidence in his essay; “no one knows,” he says of the impact. That does not stop him from estimating that the physical trauma of rape “certainly cuts this last figure by at least 50 percent and probably more.”

Why do these arguments come up again and again, even if the scientific evidence – and public opinion – is clearly not in their favor? Usually, they come from legislators looking to push abortion regulations that tighten the constitutionally-required exceptions for cases of rape and incest.

That’s what Friend was looking for back in 1988. And that’s what Akin has pushed for in the House of Representatives. He was among the 227 co-sponsors of the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion Act, introduced earlier this year by Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.)

That legislation, as initially written, who have prohibited federal funding for abortion except in cases of incest or “forcible rape.” That last term quickly-turned heads: It had the potential to significantly curtail Medicaid’s ability to pay for an abortion for certain rape victims. Those who faced a statutory rape, where one party was too young to consent, could be left out.

That language was, much like Akin’s Sunday remarks, walked back in the face of public outcry. The legislation was revised within days to include an exception for all rape victims.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/20/rep-todd-akin-is-wrong-about-rape-and-pregnancy-but-hes-not-alone/




OsideGirl -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:21:53 PM)

Ya know.....I've often thought that if men could get pregnant, a lot of politicians would change their views.....




kalikshama -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:23:02 PM)

Poll finds Akin with slim lead over McCaskill after rape comments

Two new polls suggest Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) is still competitive in his race for Missouri's Senate seat despite the firestorm over his controversial comments on rape.

A poll released by Democratic-leaning Public Policy Polling (PPP) late Monday still gives Akin a single-percentage-point lead over incumbent Sen. Claire McCaskill (D), the same lead he posted in a PPP poll from late May.

A Survey USA poll, however, finds that a majority of Missourians believe he misspoke and want him to drop out, but that Akin still has support among Republicans in the red-trending state.

Akin tops McCaskill by 44 percent to 43 in the PPP survey, nearly identical to their May poll where he led by 45 percent to 44, but the edge is within the survey’s 4-point margin of error.

Comments made by Akin in an interview publicized on Saturday — that women who are victims of "legitimate rape" do not get pregnant because their bodies shut down that process — sparked outrage from both sides of the aisle, with Republicans nationwide distancing themselves from the congressman and ultimately calling for his resignation from the nomination.

The comments dominated the evening talk shows well into the night, after Akin scheduled and canceled an appearance on "Piers Morgan Tonight" at the 9 p.m. Eastern Time hour.

The new PPP survey was taken between 6 and 9 p.m. Central Time on Monday — after Akin's comments had been widely publicized and he had been asked by senior Republicans to drop out of the race.

His persistent lead — even as 75 percent of voters and over two-thirds of Republicans in the PPP poll say his comments were inappropriate — is likely due to McCaskill's persistent unpopularity in the state. A majority, 53 percent, of Missourians disapprove of the senator, and the same percentage of independent Missourians disapprove of her as well, indicating she'll have an uphill battle to sway voters to back her in the general election.

Still, Akin has a pretty lukewarm rating with Missourians, too, with a full 58 percent rating him unfavorably. Even those who voted for then-GOP presidential candidate Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) in 2008 are largely split over Akin, with 40 percent saying they view him favorably and 39 percent saying they view him unfavorably.

Another poll, however, conducted by SurveyUSA, is more troubling for the congressman: Fifty-four percent of those polled, split pretty evenly between women and men, believe he should drop out of the race.

By party breakdown, however, a majority of Republicans believe he should stay in the race, 52 percent. Still, he loses independents, with 58 percent of that voting bloc saying he should drop out.

A majority, 55 percent, do not believe that Akin actually misspoke — despite the fact that he's said in multiple interviews and releases that he made a mistake when he used the term "legitimate rape."

A SurveyUSA poll completed earlier this month gave Akin an 11-point lead over McCaskill, so the PPP poll could indicate that Akin's gaffe has given her an opportunity to close his lead — but is not yet the decisive blow in a race Republicans consider pivotal to their chances of taking back the Senate majority.

The SurveyUSA poll was conducted among 500 Missouri adults on Monday and has a margin of error ranging from plus or minus 3.8 percentage points to plus or minus 4.5 points. The Public Policy Polling survey was conducted among 500 likely Missouri voters from 6-9 p.m. Central Time on Monday, and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/senate-races/244471-polls-indicate-akin-still-ahead-public-doesnt-believe-he-misspoke




Hillwilliam -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:28:38 PM)

Remember folks, by definition, about half the population is of below average intelligence.
If you can appeal to and motivate these people, you're golden.

This appears to be Akin's game plan.




hlen5 -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:34:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kalikshama
........: That the “physical trauma” of rape has a way of preventing pregnancy.

“To get and stay pregnant a woman’s body must produce a very sophisticated mix of hormones,” Wilke wrote. “There’s no greater emotional trauma that can be experienced by a woman than an assault rape. This can radically upset her possibility of ovulation, fertilization, implantation and even nurturing of a pregnancy.”............


Tell that to the pregnant victims of mass rape in the Congo.




Hillwilliam -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 12:37:32 PM)

Speaking of below average.


http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/kirk-cameron-akin-defends-today-video-160847344.html




DarkSteven -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 1:26:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

Poll finds Akin with slim lead over McCaskill after rape comments

Two new polls suggest Rep. Todd Akin (R-Mo.) is still competitive in his race for Missouri's Senate seat despite the firestorm over his controversial comments on rape.



That's not it. The Dems will use him as the unofficial spokesidiot for the GOP position on abortion and women's issues. And the GOP has a very strong plank about "no abortion for no reasons never" in the party platform that'll be discussed this next week at the convention, and all the media will be tying in their platform to Akin's comments. Not to mention that Ryan gets implicated as co-sponsor of a bill to redefine rape. Akin's statement will have national implications.

In addition, the GOP knows that their only chance to take the Presidency is to focus on the economy. Moving the argument to social issues means a GOP loss, especially when it makes them look like they're locked in the Stone Age. And it allows Obama to reprise the refrain about how the GOP is determined to keep women down.




kalikshama -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 3:11:37 PM)

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DarkSteven -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 4:52:02 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
He added that he has received “continuing calls from other congressman” expressing their support. (He did not name any of these congressman.)



Did he mention their party affiliation? [:)]




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:07:49 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
He added that he has received “continuing calls from other congressman” expressing their support. (He did not name any of these congressman.)



Did he mention their party affiliation? [:)]

That should be kind of obvious, Stephen.
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SlipSlidingAway -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:26:57 PM)

So, Akin apologized, and many people say that's enough.   He is determined to stay in the race even though his own party wants him to withdraw from the race.

But really, I think almost everyone following this realizes it has nothing to do with what he said and everything to do with what he believes.  

What he seems to believe is that a woman who gets pregnant from rape was simply not traumatized enough to have actually been rape-raped.  You know, it was a pseudo-sort of rape, the kind where the victim did not put up enough of a fight for her body to take over and shut that sort of thing down.

Now, where would he get such a medieval idea?  I mean basic biology teaches that egg+sperm+time of month=conception.  How could a guy on the House Science and Technology Committee hold such an archaic view?  Well, at least one high ranking doctor advocates that view, good old Doc Jack C. Wilke.

Not familiar with Doc Wilke?  Oh, he's the "father of the anti-abortion movement" and in a 2007 statement the Romney campaign had this to say about him:

"...a leading voice within the pro-life community and will be an important surrogate for Governor Romney's pro-life and pro-family agenda."

Which seems to suggest the ruckus is not so much WHAT Akin said, it's that he got caught saying it.  He put the spotlight on an issue that Romney wants to stay far away from-  especially since his VP choice shares Akin's views.  

While Romney claims to be pro-choice, remember, he made the same claim when he ran in 1993.  This, of course, after realizing that the polls said a pro-life candidate could not win statewide in Massachusetts at that time.  Once elected?  His record speaks for itself.

Romney has flip-flopped on this issue SO many times:  http://www.democrats.org/news/october-11-GOP-debate/mitt_romney_will_say_anything_about_choice_depending_on_the_audience_hes_ta

So, seems he has no qualms changing his views depending on his audience.

Now, last time I checked, he was the Republican presidential candidate.  Yet, Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus on Tuesday defended a strict anti-abortion plank proposed for the GOP platform, saying that “this is the platform of the Republican Party, it is not the platform of Mitt Romney.”

With that platform having been approved TODAY, why would anyone trust Mitt, who is running on their ticket, not to enforce it if elected? There are a lot more Akins out there than we'd be led to believe.  At least before the election in November... 




kalikshama -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:27:41 PM)

As more and more of his fellow Republicans call on him to drop out of his race for the Senate before today's 6 p.m. ET deadline to easily get his name off the ballot, the congressman's loudest defender is his Democratic opponent.




kalikshama -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:29:17 PM)

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Now, where would he get such a medieval idea?


Akin rape theory rooted in Nazi death camp experiments




mnottertail -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:30:17 PM)

Boy, if a democrat or even a liberal did that........why the rabid right teabagger press would call him a Wiener or ..... and the conservatives would call names and hypocrisy and catcall and innundate every last american with that shit........until the fucker was kicked to the curb.





slvemike4u -> RE: Todd Akin reaffirms decision to stay in the Senate race (8/21/2012 5:32:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkSteven


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama
He added that he has received “continuing calls from other congressman” expressing their support. (He did not name any of these congressman.)



Did he mention their party affiliation? [:)]

Shit,he was probably threatened not to mention names......would you want this idiot telling the world you called him up to offer support and/or encouragement ?




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