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Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 7:53:09 AM)
quote: Tax breaks is government allowing people and businesses to keep some of the money they earned . . . while other people pay their share instead. Hence, preferential treatment.

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 7:54:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity A "tax break" isnt government giving people or businesses money, someones been feeding you propaganda Tax breaks is government allowing people and businesses to keep some of the money they earned And gee, why does the left feel the need to demonize private businesses, such as Exxon quote: ORIGINAL: subspaceseven what do you call all the taxpayer money giving to corporations????? Gee does Exxon need a taxpayer break???GOP thinks so socialism is fine for the wealthy, Gee get all the government help you can so you do not have to use your own money, but you keep all the profits while the 99% pay for your losses...how is that not what you bitch about??????? Turn that critical rose covered eye on your own party and look at what they have done... But you can't because facts get in the way The IRS wouldn't agree with you. A tax is a debt. A tax break is a forgiven debt. If a creditor forgives a debt, according to the IRS, you must report that amount as gift income.

Sanity -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:04:22 AM)
This campaign hinges on the basic ideological difference between Conservatives and Leftists, which that difference boils down to this Conservatives believe that government should be our servant, while Leftists strongly feel as though government should be our master Who built that business indeed.

Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:07:53 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity This campaign hinges on the basic ideological difference between Conservatives and Leftists, which that difference boils down to this Conservatives believe that government should be our servant, while Leftists strongly feel as though government should be our master Who built that business indeed. BOTH of whom are looking to government to solve their business problems! Who built it indeed.

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:08:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity This campaign hinges on the basic ideological difference between Conservatives and Leftists, which that difference boils down to this Conservatives believe that government should be our servant, while Leftists strongly feel as though government should be our master Who built that business indeed. I sure wish there were some conservatives left in the Republican party. Nixon and Ford were the last of the breed. Some folks even say you hav e to go back to Goldwater.

Sanity -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:10:25 AM)
Thank you hill That's a very good illustration of the lefts belief that everything belongs to our masters in government quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The IRS wouldn't agree with you. A tax is a debt. A tax break is a forgiven debt. If a creditor forgives a debt, according to the IRS, you must report that amount as gift income.

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:14:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thank you hill That's a very good illustration of the lefts belief that everything belongs to our masters in government quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The IRS wouldn't agree with you. A tax is a debt. A tax break is a forgiven debt. If a creditor forgives a debt, according to the IRS, you must report that amount as gift income. It's not anyone's belief. It's the law. Are you truly so uninformed as to be unaware of the difference between belief and case law? As for me saying anything belongs to our masters in government, that's not even a pitiful strawman. It's just a bald faced lie.

Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:24:24 AM)
It's the victim mentality of the right these days, Hill, forgeting that it's we who control government, which acts on our behalf, answerable to us.

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:26:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's the victim mentality of the right these days, Hill, forgeting that it's we who control government, which acts on our behalf, answerable to us. Unfortunately, we dont control the government any more. Large Corpor....err excuse me, persons control both sides of the aisle.

mnottertail -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 8:41:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Thank you hill That's a very good illustration of the lefts belief that everything belongs to our masters in government quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam The IRS wouldn't agree with you. A tax is a debt. A tax break is a forgiven debt. If a creditor forgives a debt, according to the IRS, you must report that amount as gift income. the right believes it and they defend it to the hilt, too, they own the house and I dont see a bill coming out to remove that line of tax code.

Sanity -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:11:07 AM)
And the lefts version of "solving their problems is te effectively nationalize them ("You didn't build that") and tax them at confiscatory rates in order to fund crony capitalism at the highest levels of government And to buy the votes from the welfare classes needed to keep the cronys in power, Chicago style How is that poverty maintenance program coming along boys You have enough poor souls being held captive in those welfare chains yet quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity This campaign hinges on the basic ideological difference between Conservatives and Leftists, which that difference boils down to this Conservatives believe that government should be our servant, while Leftists strongly feel as though government should be our master Who built that business indeed. BOTH of whom are looking to government to solve their business problems! Who built it indeed.

Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:20:04 AM)
You're in total fantasy land. Federal tax rates have come down and down and down and down. Still the conservatives whine. Can't you guys build anything without government assistance? Because the Old conservatives managed just fine, at rates DOUBLE these.

Sanity -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:27:34 AM)
If we actually did control what our bureaucrats do, what our bloated federal government does, don't you think that congresses and the presidents approval ratings would be a little higher Apparently a majority of the country is suffering from your imaginary 'victim mentality' quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery It's the victim mentality of the right these days, Hill, forgeting that it's we who control government, which acts on our behalf, answerable to us.

mnottertail -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:31:51 AM)
I dont know, isn't florida pretty much one of those red welfare states anyhow? I don't think you will find much of anything built down there we didn't pay for.

Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:32:08 AM)
Actually, yes, it is. And Congress' approval rating drops to 12% <--- !!!!! http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/12814853-congress-approval-hits-all-time-low-budget-cuts-pose-more-threat-than-health-care

mnottertail -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:36:33 AM)
and isnt the republican numbers in congress even lower than that taken seperately? Once again, the democrats lifting the republicans up since they are inept at it. How the hell do we owe these lazy republican welfare patients who won't work and commit this widespread fraud a living? I think we should piss test these welfare patients. Goddammit democrats always gotta build this shit so repulicans can slough off and suck up at the government troughs.

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 9:39:49 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail Goddammit democrats always gotta build this shit so repulicans can slough off and suck up at the government troughs. It's not a handout, it's a tax break. [sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif][sm=rofl.gif]

Sanity -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 10:17:37 AM)
More and higher taxes, the perennial calling card of the left... Look, this isn't rocket science If record government spending were any fix for our record poverty rate and our record unemployment, a quick glance at the Obama debts would reveal that we are all living like Warren Buffett

Hillwilliam -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 10:26:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity More and higher taxes, the perennial calling card of the left... Look, this isn't rocket science If record government spending were any fix for our record poverty rate and our record unemployment, a quick glance at the Obama debts would reveal that we are all living like Warren Buffett We learned that lesson form Reagan and both Bushes.

Musicmystery -> RE: GOP convention theme "We Built This". Venue built with 62% Taxpayer Money... (8/23/2012 10:52:10 AM)
...and exacerbated by unfunded tax cuts and adding structural military commitments.

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