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rubytuesday -> Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 12:03:06 AM)

I dont know if I should know this or not but Im putting it down to a learning curve. Whats the significance of the capital letter before the small letter as in W/we, Y/you etc etc.

Any clarification would be appreciated becuase Im coming across it a little bit.

Thanks :-)




cariad -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 12:12:11 AM)

this slave has been taught that the "W/we, O/our" etc show a sign of respect to the Dom/Domme's but that's just what she was taught and so she follows it to a "T" when posting on the boards so as not to offend anyO/one, partially because of her training but also because it's how Master wishes her to speak when writing on message boards, irc, yahoo, msn and via emails or snail mail.

hope you find the answers you are seeking and welcome to the boards [:)]




rubytuesday -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 12:16:42 AM)

Ty cariad - that sort of clarifies it - except one of the people that has used that with me has been a Dom - ah guess Im just easily confused - there is SO much to learn *sigh*

Appreciate your input though
Many thanks




temptation -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 1:27:23 AM)

ruby, it really isnt something you have to learn.

it actually isnt even something you have to use, or should use necessarily. Its more of personal choice. Some people use it to show 'respect' or homage, or whatever.. but at the same time, it drives alot of other people crazy.

So once again, personal preference. As well as capital letters on nicknames, and talking in the third person.

Some people do it, some dont. Its just personal preference, nothing more.




princess4Sir -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 4:15:18 AM)

when i write or refer to my Master, i always use an uppercase letter - as a sign of my respect for Him - when i first began doing it, i have to admit it was tedious and i was always double-checking myself to be sure i hadn't "missed" any - but within a short time it became second nature to me - to the point that when i type "vanilla" elsewhere, it takes extra effort not to upper-case certain letters and words




LadyAngelika -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 4:39:17 AM)

quote:

I dont know if I should know this or not but Im putting it down to a learning curve. Whats the significance of the capital letter before the small letter as in W/we, Y/you etc etc.


It's something certain people need/use to reinforce the power dynamic.

If the person who used this was a Dom, then he finds it important that you capitalise anything that refers to him because this is something he requires. If he isn't your Dom and you aren't particularly open to submitting to everyone else's ideologies, feel free to call him sir. ;)

- LA




MaitresseEden -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 7:32:10 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: rubytuesday

Whats the significance of the capital letter before the small letter as in W/we, Y/you etc etc.




Personally speaking, the only function it serves is to degenerate the english language and annoy the crap out of me!.

Ms. Eden




happypervert -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 8:17:06 AM)

Personally, I think it is just a ridiculous chatroom convention so on-line doms can feel important. But anyone that can get a rise out of such foolishness must actually be very petty and not have much else going for him.




GoddessJules -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 8:33:29 AM)

H/how C/can Y/you N/not L/like T/the C/cap T/thingie?????
I/i A/am P/pretty I/indifferent T/to I/it A/actually. . . I/i D/don't P/personally D/do I/it, B/but I/it D/doesn't B/bother M/me I/if O/others D/do I/it.

B/by T/the W/way, I/i A/am J/just K/kidding W/with T/this!

J/jules




rubytuesday -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 9:47:11 AM)

Thanks for the responses - esp yours Jules which frustrated the heck out of me trying to read it (just kidding ) :-)

Anyway now I know I can understnad why some people use it but I might just refrain from it - I have enough trouble trying to type halfway decently without added complications.

Keep smiling
:-)




afmvdp -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 9:56:57 AM)

yeah, basically it was created by the early online bdsm scene just the same as the "sirdomlydom" and "sub4u4eva" type screen names and has no real basis in real world activities. If you're planning on forming "cyber" relations in an online world it might be useful, but if your goal is finding someone real world...it's really not important to bother with at all.




topcat -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 3:48:09 PM)

M. Eden-

I quite agree-I actually find it disrespectful myself. The language is a thing of grace and beauty, and to claim that butchering it is somehow respectful is utterly idiotic. I expect a written communication to to me to be written well, showing respect not only for the message or the reader, but for the language.

stay warm,
Lawrence




temptation -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 5:24:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GoddessJules

H/how C/can Y/you N/not L/like T/the C/cap T/thingie?????
I/i A/am P/pretty I/indifferent T/to I/it A/actually. . . I/i D/don't P/personally D/do I/it, B/but I/it D/doesn't B/bother M/me I/if O/others D/do I/it.

B/by T/the W/way, I/i A/am J/just K/kidding W/with T/this!

J/jules


LOL.

I tried to read it and my head exploded. excuse me while I pick up the pieces..




TahoeSadist -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 6:06:43 PM)

I'm another one who absolutely detests the Cap/lower case thing. To me it is the height of silliness and ranks right down there with "third person" typing. It is beyond me to understand the appeal of either. I enjoy intelligent conversation, whether it is spoken or written, and these annoying online "forms" just do not work for that, to me. I believe that if a person wishes to be respectful, it is better expressed in what is *said*, not what letter is capitalized.

Eric




LadyAngelika -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 6:10:18 PM)

quote:

Personally, I think it is just a ridiculous chatroom convention so on-line doms can feel important.


Isn't it so funny that all Dom/mes that have responded so far really hate it?

I agree with all reasons posted above.

- LA




RiotGirl -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 7:08:19 PM)

Good to know, even if i didnt ask the question myself. Nice to know what Domly opionons are. <grin> i think the i and Him are okay. But i cant be arsed to do it all the time, and its not been requested. THANK GOD i am not any less of a slave for it!

[:D]




perverseangelic -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 7:13:21 PM)

I hate it too. It seems like a forced way of instilling that which should already be there in a relationship. I don't need to cap my partner's name or whatever title he prefers to know that I respect him as my dominant partner. To do it for any dominant person online implies I respect that person simply for their declared role online, which isn't something I do.

Too, though, I'm an English major who recently graduated from the e.e. cummings school of online typing into an attempt to write properly. I realized that the way I type online is the only form of self-representation I have. I want to represent myself in a certain way, and that seemed to indicate that observing the rules of grammer and at least making an attempt at spelling was warented.




realophelia -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 7:54:13 PM)

I don't do the All/all thing in my emails or posts. I can see why others find it respectful, but I feel that it's awkward and interferes with my ability to get my idea across clearly.

I do capitalize Dom, most of the of time. I will also capitalize my Master's name (and other Dom's names) even in casual, mostly lowercase chat. I usually capitalize my own name but not in every situation.

IMO every sub/slave should do what feels comfortable for them.

Take care :)
Ophelia





Sinergy -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/3/2004 9:40:59 PM)


Personally, I think somebody who would get angry if somebody didnt capitalize their name needs to learn some measure of self-control.

On the other hand, picking at other people's buttons to me is a sign of some level of
cattiness and disrespect, so I generally use the convention even if I dont care if I am
refered to as Sir or Dude or nutbag (nickname on the docks) or...

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

Sinergy




Suleiman -> RE: Just a quick question about W/we etc :-) (11/4/2004 12:43:47 PM)

Short answer is that there is a tradition, not used by the whole community, where a dominant is referred to with a capital letter (He, Bob, is Dominant) while submissives are always referred to with a lower case letter (she, sally, is submissive). As to how this tradition came to be, allow me to tell you a little fable:

Long before I, luddite that I am, came to rest my shaggy gaze upon this thing they call an internet, there was a time before AOL, before unlimited useage for a set fee. In this time before, users had to pay a fee for the bandwith they used, and this fee was charged by the minute, or some times by the word. Many used the internet, but found the costs prohibitive, and so they came up with ways of reducing their expenses by taking shortcuts. Some would replace letters for homophonic words (such as typing U R rather than you are), others found acronyms that they could use for simple concepts (such as rotfl).

In this time before, perverts also gathered in the internet, and they had the same expensive problem. Some would mark their dominance by the use of capital letters (Me, You, Them, Us), others would show thier submission by the use of lower case letters (me, you, them, us). Some would use brackets to indicate that they were collared. Many other conventions were established during this time, when internet access was expensive, and the internet-based community spread out in scattered groupings.

Then came the dawning of a new light, and the eternal august of the internet. Newcomers flooded in and began to peruse the ancient text-filled haunts of their hoary elders. The conventions of an earlier time became the traditions of the newcomers. Few, if any, of those who remember the time before bother with these conventions now, but still new people enter the chat rooms and message boards and learn of these things, and like children coming to understand that girls wear dresses and boys wear pants, they insist that the rote tradition continues as a blind homage to those who came before.

My mother is fond of telling a story about a family tradition gone awry. This fable speaks of a young housewife who, in the process of preparing the family dinner, asks her husband for a hacksaw. Why does she need a hacksaw to make dinner? he inquires of her. She explains that it is to cut the bone off of the end of the ham. Why should you want to do that? he asks her. She replies that that is how her family has always done it. Confused but satisfied, the young husband finds for his wife a saw. Later, the young newlywed inquires of her mother why she cut the bone off of the ham before roasting it. The mother replies that she dosen't really know, but that's how her mother always did it. Many months pass, and then a family reuinion comes about, and the young newlywed has the opportunity to converse with her grandmother. Why is it, she inquires, that she always cuts the bone off of the ham? Well you see, explains the grandmother, when I was a newlywed, we had a very tiny little apartment, and the oven wasn't very big, so I had to cut the bone off to make the ham fit inside!

Much like the housewife in this fable, many internet players insist on using this rote tradition of Dominance and submission without really bothering to find out why it is the way it is.





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