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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:42:49 AM   
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I have a computer science degree, a compatible culture and am unmarried!

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:43:13 AM   
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Why should McDonald's pay for an employee to study pyschology?


Why should McDonald's exist?

Because it benefits the human beings in the country... at least in theory.

Worth keeping in mind when we're talking about the "rights" of corporations and how they balance with the "rights" of individuals.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:43:35 AM   
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For BIG companies, yes, DomKen. Many companies are small, and there is no way they'd be able to finance leaves of that sort AND replace the missing employee. They would need some kind of state support for it.

Right now, Italy has negative population growth. My family over there are scrambling. The younger generations aren't breeding because they can't afford to. It makes sense to encourage more family growth. We have too many people here in the states, and many of the babies are born to teens and poor families. We could hand out birth control in the streets and it wouldn't matter. What are those kids going to do for a living?

Our system is full of fail, and the kids are the ones suffering.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:50:08 AM   
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I've been thinking about how to get myself relocated to Europe or Canada for the last ten years or so. It's tougher than you might think.


Marriage?

Up here, the tax software is the main problem with passing the polyamory bill, so I've been thinking about whether me and Ars should try to "import" people with marketable skills and a compatible culture. I figure others elsewhere have thought about the same thing. And, yes, while you guys debate whether or not to be legalizing gay marriage, we debate how many husbands a guy can have...

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I call dibs on Peon.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:52:23 AM   
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For BIG companies, yes, DomKen. Many companies are small, and there is no way they'd be able to finance leaves of that sort AND replace the missing employee. They would need some kind of state support for it.

Right now, Italy has negative population growth. My family over there are scrambling. The younger generations aren't breeding because they can't afford to. It makes sense to encourage more family growth. We have too many people here in the states, and many of the babies are born to teens and poor families. We could hand out birth control in the streets and it wouldn't matter. What are those kids going to do for a living?

Our system is full of fail, and the kids are the ones suffering.



I have a feeling his comment was basically concerning big companies only. Can't they spare some of that tax break money they're always getting? Even going by more conservative ideology, isn't that what "trickle down" is supposed to be about?

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:52:33 AM   
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Like HELL you do.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:53:38 AM   
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Too late. I called it.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:55:12 AM   
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You be dreaming. You can have that cute SoulAlloy. Very biddable and excellent lung capacity.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:57:35 AM   
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How much do we want to strain companies? Now, they have to pay for the personal choices of employees that don't benefit the company?


German industry seems to be doing quite well despite the "strain." How would you explain that?

Seems like a good proLife agenda, doesn't it?

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 9:58:47 AM   
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You be dreaming. You can have that cute SoulAlloy. Very biddable and excellent lung capacity.



Can we split him? Really, I just want the abs.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:05:52 AM   
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You're welcome to that, though cute boy has a lovely loveliness AND is a proven breeder.

And yes, gentlemen, this is how educated women think. Now you know.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:13:52 AM   
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I thought this was fitting for this thread from my lady bits point of view




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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:16:28 AM   
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Very apt!

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:27:16 AM   
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If I go out and get drunk and lose my license, should my employer pay my transportation costs to get to work?


Are you comparing having children to drunk driving?

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:32:09 AM   
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I have a computer science degree, a compatible culture and am unmarried!


Guess we'll just have to wait for the poly laws, then. I think Ars would kill me if I used the single slot for politics.

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:35:49 AM   
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If I go out and get drunk and lose my license, should my employer pay my transportation costs to get to work?


Are you comparing having children to drunk driving?

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Lol!

Friends don't let friends....

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:50:43 AM   
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Thank you for re-posting that.

I was giving another example of personal choice that does nothing to enhance the company.

Subsidized personal choices are a long, slippery slope.



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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 10:57:43 AM   
Baroana


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Thank you for re-posting that.

I was giving another example of personal choice that does nothing to enhance the company.

Subsidized personal choices are a long, slippery slope.



Peace and comfort,



Michael




Granted, there might be something to your slippery slope argument.

However, reproduction pretty much stands alone as a social, political, economic, personal, and biological issue, don't you think?

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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 11:04:31 AM   
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I believe it is a personal choice; plain and simple.

Ever since 1973 in this country, no one that doesn't want to have a baby (except a male) has been forced to assume that responsibility.

I don't care what personal choices you make, as long as they don't affect me. As a person who is self-employed and looking forward to expanding my business, why should I have to pay for your personal choices?

Where does it end? Do I have to pay for my receptionist to get her nails done? Do I have to pay for my maintenance man to go get his bottle of Jack Danials on a Friday night? I don't care if my receptionist has a French manicure. If I required it, I'd be liable for the cost.

I am liable for my maintenance man's uniform because I require he wear safe clothing. I'm not liable for his bottle of booze.

Now, if a lady's baby is going to benefit my company, I guess I'd be willing to pay her for maternity leave. But, as it stands, now; being a parent is her personal choice and it doesn't benefit me a bit (in fact, it costs me money because I have to pay someone to replace her). I am NOT speaking against family leave. I'm speaking against paid family leave.



Peace and comfort,



Michael

Edited to add: I would support up to two years of unpaid family leave but why should I pay, twice to fill one position?


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RE: Oh yeah....makes my ovaries tingle just thinking ab... - 8/25/2012 11:30:10 AM   
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Where does it end? Do I have to pay for my receptionist to get her nails done?


Only if they're diseased.

Topic. Look it up.

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