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Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 4:44:40 AM   
SirMark4Slut


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Status: offline 		good morning Sirs, I am a Sir as well and have just found a submissive female that has never tasted of bdsm, she is drawn to it now completely and I do own her. In her vanilla life she is an arrogant bitch, but in the bdsm world she is meek and child like.
She cannot take nipple pain at all, is there something out there that i can help her to gradually enjoy it? I am fairly new to the Dom lifestyle as well but am learning quickly. What other treatments can i give my new slave that will touch her inner being to the core?
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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 5:05:11 AM   
AthenaSurrenders


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Status: offline 		Well if you're already an expert on breast play and can't find a way to build her tolerance/enjoyment of nipple pain, then perhaps she's just never going to get there.

I can't cope with it at all lately, so I just have to endure it and cry/scream as needed. For me it's a biological thing though. What have you already tried?

As for what will touch her inner being... we don't know her, so how can we tell? What kind of thing are you looking for?

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 5:29:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm obviously not a fellow "Sir", but I must applaud you.  Being "fairly new to the lifestyle" you must indeed be learning quickly.  I mean, after viewing your profile, to have become expert in so many areas over such a short period of time is quite unusual.

Nipples are very tender and sensitive by nature.  I agree with AthenaSurrenders, not everyone is going to build up a tolerance to the pain.  However, many women who have breast fed find that, over time, the regular usage toughens nipples and makes them less sensitive.  Then again, some quit because the pain is intolerable.  While the reason and source of the pain is obviously quite different the resulting discomfort is just as real and can be very intense. Hormones and time of month can also influence pain levels.  Just things to keep in mind.

Since you already own this woman, and since you are the only one here that knows her, you should be much more attuned to her inner being than any of your fellow sirs.  Touching someone to their core is a highly individualized thing.  I don't think anyone else is going to be able to help you get there.  If you do a search, there are a lot of good books out there for beginners that might give you some ideas, though.

Best of everything...

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 6:41:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		What are you using on her nipples? I can tolerate clover clamps, but clothespins have too much of a range of pinch. What about those adjustable nipple clamps?

My pain tolerance varies with my cycle, arousal level, and frequency of play.

For tips for touching her inner being, try some of the non-fiction on the book list: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1726118/tm.htm

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 7:04:11 AM   
GreedyTop


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ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway

I'm obviously not a fellow "Sir", but I must applaud you.  Being "fairly new to the lifestyle" you must indeed be learning quickly.  I mean, after viewing your profile, to have become expert in so many areas over such a short period of time is quite unusual.

Nipples are very tender and sensitive by nature.  I agree with AthenaSurrenders, not everyone is going to build up a tolerance to the pain.  However, many women who have breast fed find that, over time, the regular usage toughens nipples and makes them less sensitive.  Then again, some quit because the pain is intolerable.  While the reason and source of the pain is obviously quite different the resulting discomfort is just as real and can be very intense. Hormones and time of month can also influence pain levels.  Just things to keep in mind.

Since you already own this woman, and since you are the only one here that knows her, you should be much more attuned to her inner being than any of your fellow sirs.  Touching someone to their core is a highly individualized thing.  I don't think anyone else is going to be able to help you get there.  If you do a search, there are a lot of good books out there for beginners that might give you some ideas, though.

Best of everything...

SSA~






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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 7:13:29 AM   
Lucifyre


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Status: offline 		OH OH! This week I can be the resident nipple expert!!!

While I can't attest to whether or not she will ever get used to or be able to tolerate anything beyone very light nipple play I CAN explain basic nipple nerve anatomy and tell you what doctors say to decrease sensativity. If it actually works or not is a YMMV thing.

Ok, the nerves that run to the nipple start under the arms and run around the sides to under the breast and then up from about the bottom center of the breast to the nipple, kind of like a very loose "U" shape. The most common theory for super sensative nipples is that the nerve is too "tight" or "short" and the way to increase sensation tolerance is to encourage the nerve line to grow (note I said encourage, NOT force). This applies also to people who have had any kind of breast surgery. the nerves have been moved around and bruised up so they can become hyper sensative (like mine) This is also why women who breastfeed have a tendancy to be able to tolerate more sensation after a time. So, any light rubbing along those lines...under the arms, under the breast and on the nipple should "wake it up" and encourage growth. Especially on the aereola and nipple itself. Obviously you can rub a little bit harder along the regular skin where the nerve runs, but on the aereola or actual nipple should be lighter touch. Be careful when stretching those areas, if you pull too hard or stretch too much you can damage the nerve and cause it to be worse, or ruin sensation all together. Those of you who like to pull and stretch on the actual nipples need to reread that last line again and take caution! Nipples are NOT meant to be stretched to 2" lengths from pencil eraser size!

You can use desensatizing creams, BUT the problem with stuff like that is the reciever won't know when there has been too much touching/pulling/stretching and it may be even easier to do permanent damage so I would not reccomend them.

All that said, there is no garuntee that "working" the nerves and nipples will do any good...all you can do is try and please be mindful of your recievers tolerance. Give her an extra speshul safeword like "FUCKING STOP IT'S TOO MUCH!" and respect it!

Lucifyre

p.s. this is the readers digest version, in my own words. I suggest you Google " Nipple Hypersensativity" and read, research and learn!

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 7:29:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway

I'm obviously not a fellow "Sir", but I must applaud you.  Being "fairly new to the lifestyle" you must indeed be learning quickly.  I mean, after viewing your profile, to have become expert in so many areas over such a short period of time is quite unusual.


This^^^^




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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 7:59:17 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SirMark4Slut
She cannot take nipple pain at all, is there something out there that i can help her to gradually enjoy it? I am fairly new to the Dom lifestyle as well but am learning quickly. What other treatments can i give my new slave that will touch her inner being to the core?

I have no advice. I do have a wish for you though. I wish you would ponder deeply and carefully the phrase "nerve damage". While you're at it, you might think on the phrase "personal responsibility".


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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 8:14:46 AM   
JanahX


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Status: offline 		Maybe she's just not into tit play. If it hurts her, leave it the fuck alone. How bout this - why don't you put some clamps on your nuts and see if there's any way you can make it feel more pleasurable - 10 bucks says ya can't.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 8:17:22 AM   
Kana


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If it hurts her, leave it the fuck alone.


But, but, isn't hurting her the point?






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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 8:19:37 AM   
GreedyTop


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Status: offline 		Kana.. you are a self admitted sadist. the OP has not made mention of being the same. In which case, I agree with Janah.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 8:29:36 AM   
Kana


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Status: offline 		Yeah-and I agree re the sadist thing. But really, why else put clamps on nips except to hurt. The degrees may vary (Ranging from clothespins to nipple screws)but the base point is the same.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 9:17:36 AM   
GreedyTop


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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 9:33:46 AM   
OsideGirl


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Status: offline 		I'm one of those people that generally doesn't like the nipples touched. That said there are ways to approach it where it's bearable for me and then there is the approach that I can't handle.

Some one who lists themselves an expert in breast play should be able to figure it out.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 9:47:24 AM   
Endivius


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quote:

ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway

I'm obviously not a fellow "Sir", but I must applaud you.  Being "fairly new to the lifestyle" you must indeed be learning quickly.  I mean, after viewing your profile, to have become expert in so many areas over such a short period of time is quite unusual.

Nipples are very tender and sensitive by nature.  I agree with AthenaSurrenders, not everyone is going to build up a tolerance to the pain.  However, many women who have breast fed find that, over time, the regular usage toughens nipples and makes them less sensitive.  Then again, some quit because the pain is intolerable.  While the reason and source of the pain is obviously quite different the resulting discomfort is just as real and can be very intense. Hormones and time of month can also influence pain levels.  Just things to keep in mind.

Since you already own this woman, and since you are the only one here that knows her, you should be much more attuned to her inner being than any of your fellow sirs.  Touching someone to their core is a highly individualized thing.  I don't think anyone else is going to be able to help you get there.  If you do a search, there are a lot of good books out there for beginners that might give you some ideas, though.

Best of everything...

SSA~







Can we keep her? I vote we keep her!





BTW op, stop touching her "inner being" and try doing some reading from the book list.


And stop watching porn.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 10:00:25 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Lucifyre

OH OH! This week I can be the resident nipple expert!!!

While I can't attest to whether or not she will ever get used to or be able to tolerate anything beyone very light nipple play I CAN explain basic nipple nerve anatomy and tell you what doctors say to decrease sensativity. If it actually works or not is a YMMV thing.

Ok, the nerves that run to the nipple start under the arms and run around the sides to under the breast and then up from about the bottom center of the breast to the nipple, kind of like a very loose "U" shape. The most common theory for super sensative nipples is that the nerve is too "tight" or "short" and the way to increase sensation tolerance is to encourage the nerve line to grow (note I said encourage, NOT force). This applies also to people who have had any kind of breast surgery. the nerves have been moved around and bruised up so they can become hyper sensative (like mine) This is also why women who breastfeed have a tendancy to be able to tolerate more sensation after a time. So, any light rubbing along those lines...under the arms, under the breast and on the nipple should "wake it up" and encourage growth. Especially on the aereola and nipple itself. Obviously you can rub a little bit harder along the regular skin where the nerve runs, but on the aereola or actual nipple should be lighter touch. Be careful when stretching those areas, if you pull too hard or stretch too much you can damage the nerve and cause it to be worse, or ruin sensation all together. Those of you who like to pull and stretch on the actual nipples need to reread that last line again and take caution! Nipples are NOT meant to be stretched to 2" lengths from pencil eraser size!

You can use desensatizing creams, BUT the problem with stuff like that is the reciever won't know when there has been too much touching/pulling/stretching and it may be even easier to do permanent damage so I would not reccomend them.

All that said, there is no garuntee that "working" the nerves and nipples will do any good...all you can do is try and please be mindful of your recievers tolerance. Give her an extra speshul safeword like "FUCKING STOP IT'S TOO MUCH!" and respect it!

Lucifyre

p.s. this is the readers digest version, in my own words. I suggest you Google " Nipple Hypersensativity" and read, research and learn!


THANK YOU!!! This is EXTREMELY useful information...thanks resident nipple expert!

The stretching of the nipples will now cease and desist...who knew? Google, google here I come. :)

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 10:03:56 AM   
SlipSlidingAway


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Status: offline 		You may, indeed, lick my brain.  LOL, how you will get to it, and if it will end up being a disappointment?  That I don't know!!!

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 10:06:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Endivius


quote:

ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway

I'm obviously not a fellow "Sir", but I must applaud you.  Being "fairly new to the lifestyle" you must indeed be learning quickly.  I mean, after viewing your profile, to have become expert in so many areas over such a short period of time is quite unusual.

Nipples are very tender and sensitive by nature.  I agree with AthenaSurrenders, not everyone is going to build up a tolerance to the pain.  However, many women who have breast fed find that, over time, the regular usage toughens nipples and makes them less sensitive.  Then again, some quit because the pain is intolerable.  While the reason and source of the pain is obviously quite different the resulting discomfort is just as real and can be very intense. Hormones and time of month can also influence pain levels.  Just things to keep in mind.

Since you already own this woman, and since you are the only one here that knows her, you should be much more attuned to her inner being than any of your fellow sirs.  Touching someone to their core is a highly individualized thing.  I don't think anyone else is going to be able to help you get there.  If you do a search, there are a lot of good books out there for beginners that might give you some ideas, though.

Best of everything...

SSA~







Can we keep her? I vote we keep her!





BTW op, stop touching her "inner being" and try doing some reading from the book list.


And stop watching porn.


Yayyyy!  You wanna keep me?  I get to stay!!!  *does happy dance before apologizing for derailing OP's thread*


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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 10:20:17 AM   
lizi


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Status: offline 		My nipples are extremely sensitive, so much so that a man insisting on his notion that my nipples should be Dominated with pain would get kicked in the nuts and find himself very alone, as I would refuse to grace such a man with my presence again. My Dominant is a rather smart cookie I believe, he used a painful tool once on my nipples and after I clocked him on the jaw with a righthanded uppercut we don't use that tool there anymore. I wasn't able to control my reaction you see, I didn't mean to punch him, but perhaps you already knew that being an expert and all. He figures it's best to have a submissive to play with than none at all.

OP, it's nice that you admitted here to being new, although in your profile you say no such thing. You are however still looking for partners on your profile, and with your many expert designations, I for one might get the wrong idea about your newness. In this lifestyle SSC and RACK are very important concepts. Look them up and see how misleading others might not fit those concepts. As Jeff pointed out, thinking about your personal responsibility to your partner might be something good to do.

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RE: Aquiring a new slave - 8/29/2012 10:22:13 AM   
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ORIGINAL: SlipSlidingAway

You may, indeed, lick my brain.  LOL, how you will get to it, and if it will end up being a disappointment?  That I don't know!!!



You have already proven that it would NOT be disappointing :)
getting to it? that's up to you and the dude in your life ;)

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