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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 2:49:04 PM   
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I think one of the biggest problems is people confusing fin dommes with the little princesses who make profile saying things like "you have to send a tribute with your first message to prove you are real". I seriously doubt any of the guys who send money will ever lay eyes on the domme. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if the domme in question is even female. To me this is leading them on and far different from the fin dommes who actually have a relationship with their subs.

As to this point.....

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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA


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ORIGINAL: TheLilSquaw
Can we please stay on topic, which is financial domination as a legitimate kink / fetish or not.
You're the one who mentioned Terms of Service. I'm simply pointing out that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. There is no such portion of the Terms of Service which supports your contention and I'm beginning to get FUCKING irritated by people referencing a document they clearly have not read.

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That part of the TOS has been discussed in other threads, like the decline of CM and the moderation thread and we have been specifically told by mods to not discuss moderation here because this isn't a topic about moderation.
Hey you brought it up. This is more weakness on your part - being challenged to back up your statement and being manifestly incapable of doing so - and trying to use the moderators to dodge admitting you're wrong.

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Or did you NOT read that as well?
Unlike you, I actually read documents I make reference to and don't use the moderators as an excuse.


Yes actually there is. It is explained in depth here.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_4341647/tm.htm

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Alpha has already spoken on personal attacks:

http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=4248463

YOU ARE ALLOWED TO ATTACK THE POST, NOT THE POSTER

Here is a good rule of thumb. Any statement that is made that is a “you” statement, that is derogatory in nature, is not going to be allowed.

President Abraham Lincoln was the most stupid president that existed in history because he believed the sky was blue. I’m surprised that he was able to put his pants on correctly in the morning with out help…..ACCEPTABLE.,

To generic collarmemember member. You are the most stupid person I have ever known because you believe the sky is blue. I’m surprised that you are able to put your pants on correctly…. UNACCEPTABLE

To generic collarme member: The idea that the sky is blue is laughable and ludicrous and stupid! Wow. I cant believe anyone believes that! ACCEPTABLE.

To generic collarme member: The idea that the sky is blue is laughable and ludicrous and stupid! Wow. I cant believe you believe that! UNACCEPTABLE.

I can only cover a little bit about the grey area that seems to confuse people, because it is on a case by case basis and is based in large part on INTENT,

If you are talking about an idea, etc. no matter whether, right, left, middle, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Tea Party, and whatever all the other terms, it is acceptable.

To say because YOU are any one of the above YOU are “derogatory comment” is not acceptable.

It is really hard to make a personal attack without using the term you.It’s not the only way to do it, and possible other ways, but is almost certain if it is used, and is derogatory in any manner. If in doubt, honestly, you can email a Collarme Team moderator and ask them if a particular statement would be viewed as a personal attack, and get an answer. My advice would be to carefully analyze any statement you are preparing to make that has the term “you” in it before clicking send. If you don’t, please don’t be surprised if you get a post pulled, and a note from one of us.


Now I am sorry you missed it when you signed TOS to get an account here, but it is there.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 3:10:01 PM   
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Actually, you're never going to see that on My profile because it's not one of My kinks. You're also not going to see that I live for scat or that I am looking for an AB so that I can be a mommy. That doesn't mean that scat isn't a kink or that mommy/baby boy dynamics don't exist.

ETA - Jeff, you're a BDSMer about as much that I'm a findomme. You might be able to split a few hairs on 'discipline' because you do have an authority dynamic. I think that probably counts about as much as clip buying Me a birthday gift.





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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 3:21:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

The concern that I have with your comment is that it doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are other ways of executing a financial domination dynamic. Many have been talked about in this thread. Yet you haven't shown any indication that you accept that there could be more than one type of financial Domme.
There are so many problems with the very concept of "financial domination" that I'm actually spoilt for choice when it comes to which aspect to go after first. Consider the name itself which is hugely problematic. To dominate financially actually means to utilise the superior power of your finances to control another. That is, the finance is the MEANS of dominating another, it's not the RESULT of dominating another.

And secondly, these women aren't dominating shit. They're taking money from men who are desperate to throw their money at someone - ANYONE - for the illusion of a transactional transitory experience. Which is exactly the same thing strippers and whores do. To string these guys along long-term they then build the illusion of a 'relationship' with them. Of course the only relationship is a business relationship, but you won't get them admitting that because doing so is bad for business. The core of their business model is the fantasy they're selling.

These women are not dominant. Period. That should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex. They do not exert their will to extract a result, they simply show up and exploit the weakness of those who have no will of their own and that exploitation can be done by anyone - including subs. All it requires is a lack of personal ethics.

The reason they experience such venom is because they're explicitly transactional and exploitative, yet consistently try and blend in with the rest of the kink crowd as one of us when they're just another commercial entity trying to sell something.

Frankly, it's appalling they're allowed to even post here when their sig line and/or profile contain advertising. That's a classic example of thrusting their desire for profit into a group of people trying to have a conversation. And you wonder why they're despised?

Male Doms despise them because we wouldn't be caught dead exploiting our subs in that way. Indeed, I wouldn't waste my time with a sub so easily exploited. It would be a monumentally unsatisfactory experience. And I think that's another aspect: Broken subs hold no appeal for me, despite how easily you can get them to suck your cock. Financial doms exploit broken men and try and tell themselves they're "dominant". I've got news for them - there's nothing dominant about the unethical exploitation of the weak.

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But the one obvious thing that you missed in your comment is that it applies to MALES, not just male subs. Males are driven by their cocks far too often. Male Doms, male subs, vanilla males, male elephants, male spider monkeys, male mosquitoes. We are all led by our little head far too often. So why make it seem like this behavior is the exclusive territory of male subs?
Because a decent female sub is not led by her cunt. She'll actually screen the men she submits to. Male subs seem to have no such selection process.

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But in my opinion, men have been paying women since the dawn of time. We pay for dates. We buy them expensive flowers that are going to die in a few days. We buy expensive cars simply to attract women. We spend two months salary on engagement rings for women. As males, we are going to pay women one way or another.
Well, no. Men and women have been engaging in a historic exchange since the dawn of time. We exchange our labour for their reproductive capability. The rest of what you describe is only so transactional with men who are too foolish to understand how to deal with women properly. They buy into a social construct which says men pay. The reality is the exact opposite.

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How many poor vanilla schmucks have had their wives or girlfriends leave them simply because they lost their jobs and fell upon hard times? Isn't that far worse than financial domination? That poor guy thought that she actually loved him, but she left him when the money dried up. And that was despite the "for richer or poorer" crap that she said in their wedding vows.
Women don't leave because of the hard times. Women leave because the guy lost himself and was no longer the man she loved. It's not the money, it's the drive, the self-belief, the character. Decent women, God love 'em, will stick with a guy through thick and thin provided the guy doesn't lose himself. The ones who don't weren't worth marrying in the first place and the dude's better off without 'em.

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But aren't most men guilty of the same thing? If the woman stopped giving him sex, he'd be gone in a heartbeat. Replace "findom" with "man", and replace "money" with "sex", and you'll find that the exact same dynamic applies.
Relationships are capable of extending beyond the simply transactional Roch.

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Sex and money are analogous, yet I don't see anyone calling men names for "using" women for sex.
Only if your idea of relationships is a transactional one.

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Moreover, I don't see anyone starting threads to blast "Johns" who take advantage of poor prostitutes. After all, many prostitutes are victims of abuse, or they have psychological issues. Yet nobody derides the Johns who take advantage of them. So why do financial Dommes who may (or may not) take advantage of men draw so much hatred?
Well personally, I have no respect for men who pay strippers or hookers and I don't think many people do, although it's been legitimised in some of the seedier sections of American society. And there's definitely a sense of a guying being desperate if he needs to pay for it.

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Hell, I've paid "tribute" to a Domme before. But I wasn't being abused or taken advantage of. Nor was the relationship purely transactional. Rather, I viewed it as a tangible way to thank her for her time and attention.
Well y'see Roch, I'm the kind of man who doesn't think I have to pay for a woman's time or attention. She's lucky to be getting mine, so why the hell would I pay for it? Your premise is based upon your own self-evaluation as an inferior being whose only contribution to the interaction is money - rather than your attention, your wit, your presence.

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It was no different than buying flowers for a vanilla girlfriend,
When I buy flowers for my girl, it's purely to make her smile. I don't view it as 'compensation' for something she's done. You have got to get away from this idea that relationships are purely transactional - it's monumentally unhealthy.

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or allowing your wife to stay at home as a "stay-at-home mom".
(I know the women will jump all over this) allowing?

Okay, that gave me a laugh. In any case you're wrong. When a woman is a stay home mom, it's because the dude is performing his role in the ancient exchange. His labour for her reproductive capability. I can assure you that neither of them will regard building a family as transactional.

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IMO, it's simply a part of male chivalry.
Dude, chivalry was an invention of the Romantic writers and never fucking existed.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 3:23:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact
ETA - Jeff, you're a BDSMer about as much that I'm a findomme. You might be able to split a few hairs on 'discipline' because you do have an authority dynamic. I think that probably counts about as much as clip buying Me a birthday gift

Exactly. For YOU, BDSM means bondage, discipline, sadism & masochism so of course we are not "BDSM". For others, they include "D/s" in that so we are. That, at least, is my observation about how Carol & I split opinions. That actually aligns well with my own thinking. I think I have an overlap of interest with the BDSM community in the authority space but if I was actually into BDSM I'd find more draw to go to things like local events and whatnot -- or buy a crop or something at least. Even the rope stuff I've done is much more in the decoration than bondage camp. I think she looks hot in a rope body harness.


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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 3:32:11 PM   
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Thank you hishereboi :)

Edited so certain folks knew who I was thanking.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 3:32:38 PM   
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You're welcome.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 4:28:32 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: JeffBC
Exactly. For YOU, BDSM means bondage, discipline, sadism & masochism so of course we are not "BDSM". For others, they include "D/s" in that so we are. That, at least, is my observation about how Carol & I split opinions. That actually aligns well with my own thinking. I think I have an overlap of interest with the BDSM community in the authority space but if I was actually into BDSM I'd find more draw to go to things like local events and whatnot -- or buy a crop or something at least. Even the rope stuff I've done is much more in the decoration than bondage camp. I think she looks hot in a rope body harness.
I admit, I'm something of a purist when it comes to the BDSM abbreviation. Each letter had one word associated with it at it's conception and it actually was the D/s folks that decided that the D and the s in the abbreviation had to stand for two words each so that power dynamic folks who weren't kinksters wouldn't be left out.

I'd forgotten about the bondage that you were asking about a while back when I wrote the post about it. While I am a purist about the term, I do consider everything as far as scale. Bondage for decoration, fuzzy handcuffs, and silk scarves are all still bondage. Just like the lightest form of administering pain is still a form of sadism. It wouldn't be a level of sadism that would make Me happy, but I digress.

Now, the authority angle, yeah, you're right in there. Probably why you've felt more at home with MAsT than you have with other kink associated events.



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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 4:33:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TAFKAA


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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

The concern that I have with your comment is that it doesn't seem to acknowledge that there are other ways of executing a financial domination dynamic. Many have been talked about in this thread. Yet you haven't shown any indication that you accept that there could be more than one type of financial Domme.
There are so many problems with the very concept of "financial domination" that I'm actually spoilt for choice when it comes to which aspect to go after first. Consider the name itself which is hugely problematic. To dominate financially actually means to utilise the superior power of your finances to control another. That is, the finance is the MEANS of dominating another, it's not the RESULT of dominating another.

And secondly, these women aren't dominating shit. They're taking money from men who are desperate to throw their money at someone - ANYONE - for the illusion of a transactional transitory experience. Which is exactly the same thing strippers and whores do. To string these guys along long-term they then build the illusion of a 'relationship' with them. Of course the only relationship is a business relationship, but you won't get them admitting that because doing so is bad for business. The core of their business model is the fantasy they're selling.

These women are not dominant. Period. That should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a functioning cerebral cortex. They do not exert their will to extract a result, they simply show up and exploit the weakness of those who have no will of their own and that exploitation can be done by anyone - including subs. All it requires is a lack of personal ethics.

The reason they experience such venom is because they're explicitly transactional and exploitative, yet consistently try and blend in with the rest of the kink crowd as one of us when they're just another commercial entity trying to sell something.

Frankly, it's appalling they're allowed to even post here when their sig line and/or profile contain advertising. That's a classic example of thrusting their desire for profit into a group of people trying to have a conversation. And you wonder why they're despised?

Male Doms despise them because we wouldn't be caught dead exploiting our subs in that way. Indeed, I wouldn't waste my time with a sub so easily exploited. It would be a monumentally unsatisfactory experience. And I think that's another aspect: Broken subs hold no appeal for me, despite how easily you can get them to suck your cock. Financial doms exploit broken men and try and tell themselves they're "dominant". I've got news for them - there's nothing dominant about the unethical exploitation of the weak.

quote:


But the one obvious thing that you missed in your comment is that it applies to MALES, not just male subs. Males are driven by their cocks far too often. Male Doms, male subs, vanilla males, male elephants, male spider monkeys, male mosquitoes. We are all led by our little head far too often. So why make it seem like this behavior is the exclusive territory of male subs?
Because a decent female sub is not led by her cunt. She'll actually screen the men she submits to. Male subs seem to have no such selection process.

quote:

But in my opinion, men have been paying women since the dawn of time. We pay for dates. We buy them expensive flowers that are going to die in a few days. We buy expensive cars simply to attract women. We spend two months salary on engagement rings for women. As males, we are going to pay women one way or another.
Well, no. Men and women have been engaging in a historic exchange since the dawn of time. We exchange our labour for their reproductive capability. The rest of what you describe is only so transactional with men who are too foolish to understand how to deal with women properly. They buy into a social construct which says men pay. The reality is the exact opposite.

quote:

How many poor vanilla schmucks have had their wives or girlfriends leave them simply because they lost their jobs and fell upon hard times? Isn't that far worse than financial domination? That poor guy thought that she actually loved him, but she left him when the money dried up. And that was despite the "for richer or poorer" crap that she said in their wedding vows.
Women don't leave because of the hard times. Women leave because the guy lost himself and was no longer the man she loved. It's not the money, it's the drive, the self-belief, the character. Decent women, God love 'em, will stick with a guy through thick and thin provided the guy doesn't lose himself. The ones who don't weren't worth marrying in the first place and the dude's better off without 'em.

quote:

But aren't most men guilty of the same thing? If the woman stopped giving him sex, he'd be gone in a heartbeat. Replace "findom" with "man", and replace "money" with "sex", and you'll find that the exact same dynamic applies.
Relationships are capable of extending beyond the simply transactional Roch.

quote:

Sex and money are analogous, yet I don't see anyone calling men names for "using" women for sex.
Only if your idea of relationships is a transactional one.

quote:

Moreover, I don't see anyone starting threads to blast "Johns" who take advantage of poor prostitutes. After all, many prostitutes are victims of abuse, or they have psychological issues. Yet nobody derides the Johns who take advantage of them. So why do financial Dommes who may (or may not) take advantage of men draw so much hatred?
Well personally, I have no respect for men who pay strippers or hookers and I don't think many people do, although it's been legitimised in some of the seedier sections of American society. And there's definitely a sense of a guying being desperate if he needs to pay for it.

quote:

Hell, I've paid "tribute" to a Domme before. But I wasn't being abused or taken advantage of. Nor was the relationship purely transactional. Rather, I viewed it as a tangible way to thank her for her time and attention.
Well y'see Roch, I'm the kind of man who doesn't think I have to pay for a woman's time or attention. She's lucky to be getting mine, so why the hell would I pay for it? Your premise is based upon your own self-evaluation as an inferior being whose only contribution to the interaction is money - rather than your attention, your wit, your presence.

quote:

It was no different than buying flowers for a vanilla girlfriend,
When I buy flowers for my girl, it's purely to make her smile. I don't view it as 'compensation' for something she's done. You have got to get away from this idea that relationships are purely transactional - it's monumentally unhealthy.

quote:

or allowing your wife to stay at home as a "stay-at-home mom".
(I know the women will jump all over this) allowing?

Okay, that gave me a laugh. In any case you're wrong. When a woman is a stay home mom, it's because the dude is performing his role in the ancient exchange. His labour for her reproductive capability. I can assure you that neither of them will regard building a family as transactional.

quote:

IMO, it's simply a part of male chivalry.
Dude, chivalry was an invention of the Romantic writers and never fucking existed.



I would like to correct you on something you said...I work as a dancer (or in your terms "stripper") and speaking for myself, I do not do any of the following things you said strippers do. Even as a fin domme, and dancer, I paint no fantasy pictures. Each sub or male patron that I see knows full well what is going on. Contrary to your beliefs there are people are aware of what's going on.




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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 4:35:16 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: JeffBC
Exactly. For YOU, BDSM means bondage, discipline, sadism & masochism so of course we are not "BDSM". For others, they include "D/s" in that so we are. That, at least, is my observation about how Carol & I split opinions. That actually aligns well with my own thinking. I think I have an overlap of interest with the BDSM community in the authority space but if I was actually into BDSM I'd find more draw to go to things like local events and whatnot -- or buy a crop or something at least. Even the rope stuff I've done is much more in the decoration than bondage camp. I think she looks hot in a rope body harness.
I admit, I'm something of a purist when it comes to the BDSM abbreviation. Each letter had one word associated with it at it's conception and it actually was the D/s folks that decided that the D and the s in the abbreviation had to stand for two words each so that power dynamic folks who weren't kinksters wouldn't be left out.

I'd forgotten about the bondage that you were asking about a while back when I wrote the post about it. While I am a purist about the term, I do consider everything as far as scale. Bondage for decoration, fuzzy handcuffs, and silk scarves are all still bondage. Just like the lightest form of administering pain is still a form of sadism. It wouldn't be a level of sadism that would make Me happy, but I digress.

Now, the authority angle, yeah, you're right in there. Probably why you've felt more at home with MAsT than you have with other kink associated events.





I would say that Jeff and Carol are a part of D/s. I see what you guys are saying as far as BDSM. It's a splitting hairs type thing.


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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 5:06:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I would like to correct you on something you said...I work as a dancer (or in your terms "stripper") and speaking for myself, I do not do any of the following things you said strippers do. Even as a fin domme, and dancer, I paint no fantasy pictures. Each sub or male patron that I see knows full well what is going on. Contrary to your beliefs there are people are aware of what's going on.
Oh come on. Strippers are amongst the most cynical human beings in existence. They know full well how to work male patrons to extract money from them. Including feeding them lines about being "a single mom working her way through college". Strippers sell the illusion that they're choosing to spend time with their male patrons and they frequently sell the illusion that they'd hang out with the guys anyway. Ever given a client your #? That wasn't about anything other than building your business.

Don't tell me you're a stripper and then expect me to believe you don't deal in illusion. The entire premise of stripping is illusion.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 5:12:16 PM   
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I am so glad that Master and I identify simply as M/s. Makes life so much simpler. If he decides to add bondage or kinky sex or whatever, then that's great. But in all...yeah, M/s is the best description and no other initials needed lol.

Anything else is just waayy too confusing for me these days.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 5:16:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TAFKAA


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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
I would like to correct you on something you said...I work as a dancer (or in your terms "stripper") and speaking for myself, I do not do any of the following things you said strippers do. Even as a fin domme, and dancer, I paint no fantasy pictures. Each sub or male patron that I see knows full well what is going on. Contrary to your beliefs there are people are aware of what's going on.
Oh come on. Strippers are amongst the most cynical human beings in existence. They know full well how to work male patrons to extract money from them. Including feeding them lines about being "a single mom working her way through college". Strippers sell the illusion that they're choosing to spend time with their male patrons and they frequently sell the illusion that they'd hang out with the guys anyway. Ever given a client your #? That wasn't about anything other than building your business.

Don't tell me you're a stripper and then expect me to believe you don't deal in illusion. The entire premise of stripping is illusion.


Plain and simple, your wrong. I worked at a club where the owner promised to pay for college semesters so long as we maintained a B average. Only two of us enrolled in that program. And both of us do not have to pay for our loans.

Secondly, yes I have given clients My number that wasn't having to do with business. So of My clientele are actually awesome people and I enjoy their company. Your opinion of all strippers deal in illusion is just that. Or you can tell me how long you've been a dancer and Ill accept that.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 5:43:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: TNDommeK
Plain and simple, your wrong. I worked at a club where the owner promised to pay for college semesters so long as we maintained a B average. Only two of us enrolled in that program. And both of us do not have to pay for our loans.
Fucking hell, now you're trying to sell ME that illusion? Give it up, I'm nowhere near naive enough to buy that.

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Secondly, yes I have given clients My number that wasn't having to do with business. So of My clientele are actually awesome people and I enjoy their company. Your opinion of all strippers deal in illusion is just that. Or you can tell me how long you've been a dancer and Ill accept that.
Oh for fuck's sake. Building the illusion that you'd like to hang out with the dudes who pay you is stripping 101. That's how you build regular clientele. Shit woman, we're not all as naive as those guys, so just save the elementary stripper psychology. That you're even trying this crap in here is monumentally insulting. You must really think we're stupid.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 6:12:32 PM   
TNDommeK


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Plain and simple, your wrong. I worked at a club where the owner promised to pay for college semesters so long as we maintained a B average. Only two of us enrolled in that program. And both of us do not have to pay for our loans.
Fucking hell, now you're trying to sell ME that illusion? Give it up, I'm nowhere near naive enough to buy that.

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Secondly, yes I have given clients My number that wasn't having to do with business. So of My clientele are actually awesome people and I enjoy their company. Your opinion of all strippers deal in illusion is just that. Or you can tell me how long you've been a dancer and Ill accept that.
Oh for fuck's sake. Building the illusion that you'd like to hang out with the dudes who pay you is stripping 101. That's how you build regular clientele. Shit woman, we're not all as naive as those guys, so just save the elementary stripper psychology. That you're even trying this crap in here is monumentally insulting. You must really think we're stupid.

I'm not selling you anything to buy. It is what it is. Whether you chose to agree or not.

There is no "we". You are the only person here, other than that other user that trolls every so often, that feels the way you do. Again, how long have you been a dancer?

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 7:14:49 PM   
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FR,

Yet again, the topic here is not moderation. Please post moderation issues on a moderation thread.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 8:00:49 PM   
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FR,

Yet again, the topic here is not moderation. Please post moderation issues on a moderation thread.
Yes and when we post on the fucking topic, you remove that as well. Since you seem to have trouble following it, go back and read the first fucking post. "Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s?" - I contended NO and you fucking removed it because I was supposedly insulting someone's kink, when whether it's actually anyone's kink is the fucking discussion at hand!

Bullshit like this is why this place is a waste of space for anyone with a fucking brain.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 8:28:30 PM   
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Since you seem to have trouble following it, go back and read the first fucking post. "Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s?" - I contended NO and you fucking removed it because I was supposedly insulting someone's kink, when whether it's actually anyone's kink is the fucking discussion at hand!

Bullshit like this is why this place is a waste of space for anyone with a fucking brain.


You've said what you wanted to say. We are all very aware that you don't think it's valid as a fetish or a kink or anything else. We really, really get it.

There will always be those opposed to it, those that love it and those that don't give a damn about it one way or the other. Whether you agree with it or not, we're not going anywhere. Block us, hide us and move on. Save some of your energy for things that you deem worthy of your time. It's so simple.


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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 8:52:54 PM   
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Why the fuck should I shut up so you and your findomme cronies can ply your trade in a venue which supposedly doesn't allow commercial services.

If they're going to allow you in, they may as well allow the hookers and cam girls in.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 9:16:16 PM   
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Why the fuck should I shut up so you and your findomme cronies can ply your trade in a venue which supposedly doesn't allow commercial services.

If they're going to allow you in, they may as well allow the hookers and cam girls in.


They're already in, you're too late.

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RE: Is financial domination a legitimate form of D/s? - 1/11/2013 10:06:42 PM   
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Why the fuck should I shut up so you and your findomme cronies can ply your trade in a venue which supposedly doesn't allow commercial services.

If they're going to allow you in, they may as well allow the hookers and cam girls in.



Yes, because hookers aren't real people! BURN THE WITCH!


I don't understand why you can't fathom that people are all different, and that what disgusts one person may soak another's panties.


I REALLY don't know why you are trying to tell a dancer what a dancer does.

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