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OCD personality - 8/30/2012 9:31:14 PM   
chemeli


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Status: offline 		I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/30/2012 10:23:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		My daughter is ocd. It used to drive me crazy when she lived at home. I think she still has it because her boyfriend has commented on it from time to time. He just finds it cute and funny though.

She went to talk therapy for awhile but she blew it off and it didn't help her. When she was in a mental place for a few weeks though they would take her out of her comfort zone, not give her certain things, not allow her to do certain things and then they would talk about what she was feeling and why she felt the need. It was usually because she felt it was the only part of her life she could control on her own. She's a control freak as well. So while she was there she was able to relax and give up a bit of that control but she still has it, just not as bad as before, as far as I know of at least.


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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 12:16:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		My long-time partner has OCD. It is severe enough that we don't live together because it would drive me crazy. He's tried a medication or two but doesn't have the patience to see if they will actually help. Certain antidepressants are effective, though you have to be willing to give them an adequate try and if one doesn't work well try another until you find the right medication for your particular chemistry.

I don't know if talk therapy alone would help clinical OCD.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 6:26:01 AM   
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Status: offline 		A friend has OCD. I've gone from being a close friend to her to something much less, I couldn't take it any more. She's done long term counseling, it didn't seem to help her in the end.
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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 6:53:31 AM   
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I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

Thanks.


What did your doctor say?

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 6:53:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		Some SSRIs (a type of antidepressant) can help a lot. They do take awhile to work.
Talk therapy is unlikely to do anything but Cognitive Behavioral Therapy may help some.

Medication and CBT together is likely to be more effective than medication alone.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 7:20:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think that a lot of people have some degree of OCD.......I have realized that I do, about some really weird shit. Generic Dude does as well.

I think that, the point where it seriously hinders a person from having the life they wish to have is when they need to go looking for help. If, big picture, it doesn't really cause any problems.....I would just consider it an odd little quirk (like my towel folding thing....and my toilet paper thing....and my clean stove and microwave thing...etc etc etc) and focus on living life.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 7:39:54 AM   
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I think that a lot of people have some degree of OCD.......I have realized that I do, about some really weird shit. Generic Dude does as well.

I think that, the point where it seriously hinders a person from having the life they wish to have is when they need to go looking for help. If, big picture, it doesn't really cause any problems.....I would just consider it an odd little quirk (like my towel folding thing....and my toilet paper thing....and my clean stove and microwave thing...etc etc etc) and focus on living life.


I absolutely agree with you. Quirks aren't something that generally preclude someone from being socially successful with others. The woman I was speaking of earlier has kind of chosen her OCD over her relationships. I say that because it seems as though she is happier in the short term hanging on to what is familiar to her, but drives others crazy, to breaking out of her little capsule to doing things differently. If she were at least to make an effort that people could recognize it would go a long way to having people be more understanding and comfortable around her. She does seem to be ultimately unhappy that people leave her in the end rather than keep dealing with her issues.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 8:07:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Dr. Jeffrey M. Schwartz uses the principles of self-directed neuroplasticity to help people overcome OCD.

http://www.amazon.com/Brain-Lock-Yourself-Obsessive-Compulsive-Behavior/dp/0060987111

An estimated 5 million Americans suffer from obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and live diminished lives in which they are compelled to obsess about something or to repeat a similar task over and over. Traditionally, OCD has been treated with Prozac or similar drugs. The problem with medication, aside from its cost, is that 30 percent of people treated don't respond to it, and when the pills stop, the symptoms invariably return.

In Brain Lock, Jeffrey M. Schwartz presents a simple four-step method for overcoming OCD that is so effective, it's now used in academic treatment centers throughout the world. Proven by brain-imaging tests to actually alter the brain's chemistry, this method doesn't rely on psychopharmaceuticals. Instead, patients use cognitive self-therapy and behavior modification to develop new patterns of response to their obsessions. In essence, they use the mind to fix the brain. Using the real-life stories of actual patients, Brain Lock explains this revolutionary method and provides readers with the inspiration and tools to free themselves from their psychic prisons and regain control of their lives.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 10:36:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chemeli

I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

Thanks.


What did your doctor say?



My doctor told me i didnt have OCD, but an anti-social syndrome behavior. I cant connect well with others on a long-term basis, i'm withdrawing inside myself in social situations that arent familiar to me, i'm stuck in repetitive behaviour (but it has nothing to do with repetitive gestures...only the same routine, all day long and i cant get out of it cause it would break the little control i have over things and stress would come out). The fact is, that when i look up to the internet about it and spoke to others who had the obsessive compulsive *personality* disorder, it match with what i have. And it seems to be much more complex then that.

So, i dont drive people crazy....but i stay away from them cause it's hard for me to keep up with conversations, especially with larger groups of people (group of 5-6 people is too much for me).

The things that tipped my into thinking i had this kind of problem was the fact that i *wanted* to be social, but i *couldnt* cause it was a form of stress for my nerves. And then, besides OCD, i thought, what if this is a form of autism....?

I'm looking at the behavior of both my parents and they're the same as me. Maybe it's genetics?

Thank you all.....

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 10:38:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've had OCD since I was 3 years old. I've noticed, through observation of my life it has peaks & troughs at different points of growth, personal development and stress. The hardest part of OCD is the anxiety that is created from not being able to complete the task. Once I lessened my anxiety & stress levels, my OCD isn't as obvious. Right now, I would say I have no signs of it and this is the first time in around 10-11 years.

Cognitive behavioural therapy never worked for me because an inherit part of my OCD is compulsive negative thought which makes me resistant to it, however, I have managed to finally find a medication that is successful in treating it and my other issues.

Psychologists are good for "talking" therapies. I would be asking your primary care doctor for a referral to a psychiatrist to A) get a diagnosis and B) discuss treatment options.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 11:10:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		First, make sure you're diagnosed by a professional. OCD is not a personality, it's a set of thoughts and behaviors. A lot of people think that organizational quirks are the same as OCD, but they're nothing alike (this is not a dig at anybody who's already replied, this is a general observation of how OCD is portrayed in the media and hearing many people talk about it over the years). There are two components to OCD and if you lack either one, you do not have it. Again, see a professional for a diagnosis. The first component is a recurring thought that is difficult, if not impossible, to dispel without performing a specific action and even that action can't dispel the thought sometimes. Often the recurring thought has a lot of anxiety wrapped up with it. That's the obsession. The second component is a behavior that is linked to that thought and is the only thing that can make the obsessive thought (and anxiety) stop, even if it's only for a short period of time. That's the compulsion. If that doesn't fit what happens to you, you don't have OCD. Often over time, the obsessive thoughts become more urgent and more anxious, and the behaviors have to repeated over and over or more intensely to make the thoughts stop. It turns into a vicious pattern of escalation. There are a myriad of anxiety disorders and other things that can look sort of like mild OCD to people who don't know the difference, including general practitioners, which is why it's important to see some kind of certified mental health practitioner for a proper diagnosis.

I second the recommendation for looking into Cognitive Behavioral Therapy if you're diagnosed with OCD. If you don't work to change the behaviors you do in response to the obsessive thoughts, it's damn near impossible to break out of the cycle. And it is a very difficult road to follow alone if you don't know what you're doing and if you don't have a very strong will. If you have obsessive thoughts that are so overwhelming it's impossible for you to start behavioral therapy, you might need a medication to help you with that in the beginning. If CBT doesn't work for you, there are other behavioral therapies out there you can pursue. But whatever treatment option you do, medication is not a good choice for long term unless you've exhausted other options. It will only mask the symptoms and the symptoms are likely to pop up anyway during times of high stress or some years down the road if your body gets adjusted to the medication.

Edited for clarity in a sentence.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 12:22:40 PM   
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The first component is a recurring thought that is difficult, if not impossible, to dispel without performing a specific action and even that action can't dispel the thought sometimes. Often the recurring thought has a lot of anxiety wrapped up with it. That's the obsession. The second component is a behavior that is linked to that thought and is the only thing that can make the obsessive thought (and anxiety) stop, even if it's only for a short period of time. That's the compulsion. If that doesn't fit what happens to you, you don't have OCD.





The thing is, it's not exactly a thought, but a general way of how i am in general. Maybe it's a cognitive, psychic disorder that i dont know of. It's making reality hard to get a focus on and it's not simple to explain. Kind of like my head seems to be under wrapped on water all the time. When i move or when i'm in action, i have no problem with that, cause i focus on what i'm doing and not what i'm thinking. It's easier. But right now, when i have to focus on stable things, like just trying to write what i am writing, it's hard to just *think*. I have to think of the *precise* *words* *that* *will* *describe* *my* exact* *thought*.

I'm thinking this is the obsession. and the compulsion would be to not think at all or trying to do things which will give me not thinking, just doing (like reading, walking, talking, things fluent), which i cannot do, being in university, working, trying this thing which is having a LIFE.

i dont know if i'm making myself clear, i tried my best....

yes, getting to see a doctor would be a good thing....but i dont know how i would describe it to them. what if he thinks it's just one mood or so..? anyway.

edited cause unfocused sentencing.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 12:34:07 PM   
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I would be asking your primary care doctor for a referral to a psychiatrist to A) get a diagnosis and B) discuss treatment options.


This.

On here........we are not medical or mental health specialists and I would seriously distrust anyone that says they are. Just because it IS the internet and anyone can say they are anything they want to be.

The best way we can help you, the only ways.......listen, empathize and tell you to actually go see a doctor.



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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 12:38:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok ok, thank you.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 3:02:45 PM   
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yes, getting to see a doctor would be a good thing....but i dont know how i would describe it to them. what if he thinks it's just one mood or so..? anyway.

edited cause unfocused sentencing.


I suggest making your appointment as soon as you can. It's difficult in many areas to book an appointment with a psychiatrist (which is the type of doctor you need to see, not a GP or a psychologist) so there are usually long waiting periods unless you're considered an emergency case.

What you can do in the meantime is keep a journal. Write down every time you feel this way. You say it's difficult to find the right words; don't worry about that so much as logging the times and dates and whatever activities preceded it. If you can write your feelings, do that too, but don't get terribly caught up in that aspect. Then you'll have a record to show the doctor how often it happens and what's happening when it does. One day when you're feeling particularly cognizant, try to write out a paragraph or two describing what these moods feel like as best you can. Go back to it and tweak it when you feel like it. By the time you see the doctor, hopefully you'll have a good description ready to go. But if you don't, don't worry about it too much. Psychiatrists are trained to figure out what's going on, so yours will be able to ask you questions that help him or her figure it out.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 3:05:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chemeli

I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

Thanks.


First of all; it's CDO because it should be alphabetical. It drives me nuts when things aren't the way they're supposed to be.



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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 3:48:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chemeli

I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

Thanks.


First of all; it's CDO because it should be alphabetical. It drives me nuts when things aren't the way they're supposed to be.



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I'm french. Therefore, english and me are not that friendly sometimes. My apologies.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 3:53:32 PM   
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yes, getting to see a doctor would be a good thing....but i dont know how i would describe it to them. what if he thinks it's just one mood or so..? anyway.

edited cause unfocused sentencing.


I suggest making your appointment as soon as you can. It's difficult in many areas to book an appointment with a psychiatrist (which is the type of doctor you need to see, not a GP or a psychologist) so there are usually long waiting periods unless you're considered an emergency case.

What you can do in the meantime is keep a journal. Write down every time you feel this way. You say it's difficult to find the right words; don't worry about that so much as logging the times and dates and whatever activities preceded it. If you can write your feelings, do that too, but don't get terribly caught up in that aspect. Then you'll have a record to show the doctor how often it happens and what's happening when it does. One day when you're feeling particularly cognizant, try to write out a paragraph or two describing what these moods feel like as best you can. Go back to it and tweak it when you feel like it. By the time you see the doctor, hopefully you'll have a good description ready to go. But if you don't, don't worry about it too much. Psychiatrists are trained to figure out what's going on, so yours will be able to ask you questions that help him or her figure it out.



Good thinking....might be hard, but it's worth trying. and writing always makes me feel better somehow, so yeah.

The problem is, i always change my mind after a sentence about my mood : example : is it *really* that way that I'm feeling? what about now? and what about right now? what about this way?

grrrrr, it's mind blowing frustration

and i'm thinking there might have been some humor tongue in cheek in DaddySatyr's last post and i didnt see it lol. My apologies again.

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RE: OCD personality - 8/31/2012 3:55:36 PM   
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I'm thinking i might have it. Any kind of treatments to *cure* this? I tried talking about it to a psychologist and talking doesnt help. I get it, i just want to get *out* of it, if i can.

Thanks.


I'd go to a doctor regards this issue. If that doesn't work.....

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