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graceadieu -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 2:31:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: dcnovice FR In my own struggles with clinical depression, I've had times where I don't feel particularly awful (perhaps because my bar is pretty low) but look around and realize I'm leading the life of a seriously depressed person. Hmm, you know, that's a good point. I've been there, too. It's like.... my mood wouldn't feel too bad, so I'd think I was okay. But really, it was because I was just cutting off most things in my life that would require me to actually feel something about something and just numbing myself all the time with mindless things like TV and comfort food. I still go through some periods of that from time to time, but I'm better at recognizing now what it is and that I need to do something about it.

graceadieu -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 2:36:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom Yup. Trileptal for bi polar and I take it 2 pills a day twice a day. I'm doing pretty good on them. it was 1 pill in morning and 1 at night, and then we switched it to two a morning and 2 a night . It's working good. I've never taken that one, but I think it's in the same class as Lamictal, which is what I'm on. That works well for me too, but I know it does cause me to feel somewhat fuzzy-headed and apathetic and anti-social. I started taking Welbutrin ~6 months ago and it's definitely helped some with making my head feel clearer and having more focus and motivation. (My shrink recommended that one b/c unlike most antidepressants it doesn't usually cause weight gain or sexual problems.) ETA: So maybe you could talk to your shrink about adding an antidepressant? I think you mentioned earlier that you have a lot of trouble with mania, and if that's the case you gotta be careful about the antidepressants because they sometimes can cause mania, but it might be worth a shot. Also, like some other people said, regular exercise will probably help you have more energy too. I know it can be really hard to motivate yourself to get out and get some exercise, but if I can do it I usually feel a lot better afterwards, both in mood and energy.

Rule -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 2:40:06 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder A reason to get out.....to keep you healthy A reason to go out......to walk the dog A reason to go out.....volunteer A reason to go out......put yourself in touch with nature, God, your diety, etc... A reason to go out.....to people watch I am sure that she is aware of all those reasons, but it simply is not in her to act upon it. She requires a master to take nearly complete controll of her, to command her within her abilities, and her daddy is not up to the task.

sunshinemiss -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 3:30:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rule quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder A reason to get out.....to keep you healthy A reason to go out......to walk the dog A reason to go out.....volunteer A reason to go out......put yourself in touch with nature, God, your diety, etc... A reason to go out.....to people watch I am sure that she is aware of all those reasons, but it simply is not in her to act upon it. She requires a master to take nearly complete controll of her, to command her within her abilities, and her daddy is not up to the task. Gosh, amazing that all those vanilla people deal with it all the time and still live to tell about it! TFTB: Try superbetter. Did you go to that website?

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 3:34:51 PM)
Yes. I will be talking with her and seeing what she thinks we might need to do. I have been going outside and sitting in our camping chair and getting some fresh air with my dog, it's beautiful weather for it. there's a fresh breaze it's not to hot, it's a very nice break from indoors. quote: ORIGINAL: graceadieu ETA: So maybe you could talk to your shrink about adding an antidepressant? I think you mentioned earlier that you have a lot of trouble with mania, and if that's the case you gotta be careful about the antidepressants because they sometimes can cause mania, but it might be worth a shot. Also, like some other people said, regular exercise will probably help you have more energy too. I know it can be really hard to motivate yourself to get out and get some exercise, but if I can do it I usually feel a lot better afterwards, both in mood and energy.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 3:37:29 PM)
Yup. looking at it now. quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss TFTB: Try superbetter. Did you go to that website?

FullCircle -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 4:33:16 PM)
My keyboard gets depressed whenever I type 'dandelion'. I don't know anything else about depression other than it makes you feel depressed. Lack of motivation is due to never being chased by lions.

angelikaJ -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 4:56:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom Yup. looking at it now. quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss TFTB: Try superbetter. Did you go to that website? Looking is quite different than doing. [;)] Not giving a rat's ass about anything including taking your meds does mean you are depressed. Apathy and not enjoying things you used to are big indicators. I think at the moment your mind is too busy not giving a rat's ass for you to notice how you are actually feeling. You need to take your meds.

Rule -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 6:40:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: sunshinemiss Gosh, amazing that all those vanilla people deal with it all the time and still live to tell about it! She is not vanilla. She is a natural slave.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 7:37:45 PM)
Yes, I need to start taking them, it's been almost a month since I stopped. When Daddy gets home I'll take all the meds I am supposed to take and eat dinner. He's bringing me home a salad! quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Looking is quite different than doing. [;)] Not giving a rat's ass about anything including taking your meds does mean you are depressed. Apathy and not enjoying things you used to are big indicators. I think at the moment your mind is too busy not giving a rat's ass for you to notice how you are actually feeling. You need to take your meds.

angelikaJ -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 7:55:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Toppingfrmbottom Yes, I need to start taking them, it's been almost a month since I stopped. When Daddy gets home I'll take all the meds I am supposed to take and eat dinner. He's bringing me home a salad! quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Looking is quite different than doing. [;)] Not giving a rat's ass about anything including taking your meds does mean you are depressed. Apathy and not enjoying things you used to are big indicators. I think at the moment your mind is too busy not giving a rat's ass for you to notice how you are actually feeling. You need to take your meds. Not taking your mood-stabiliser is not going to make you feel less depressed unless the medication was causing depression, in which case that needs to be addressed ASAP... and then you need to be put on something else that works for you. Have you been honest with the counselor about not taking care of yourself?

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 8:41:09 PM)
Yup. She said it sounds like very good reasons I should want to take care of myself and my health and when I said, true they are, but I am having a very hard time giving a rats ass about any of it She didn't say much. But she may address it more in next session. quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ Not taking your mood-stabiliser is not going to make you feel less depressed unless the medication was causing depression, in which case that needs to be addressed ASAP... and then you need to be put on something else that works for you. Have you been honest with the counselor about not taking care of yourself?

angelikaJ -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 8:43:22 PM)
Can you now see that your behavior is depressed?

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 9:30:15 PM)
Perhaps to some level. Ive never been good at taking care of myself, so I don't know what it feels like to want to or to have pride in ones self.

angelikaJ -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 9:56:29 PM)
You are an adult. Taking care of yourself is your responsibility. And I know there are times when you do take pride in yourself, Tfb. Getting the new haircut and style... making progress with a household task. So you do know how it feels. Walk your dog. Clean your home. Practice good self care and hygiene is at the top of that list. Laying in bed most of the time is horrible for your back; your muscles will just get weaker. It is also horrible for someone who is "pre-diabetic". Bad habits are hard to change, but it is doable. Hey, I know it is true that as we grow up we are not always given the right coping skills to deal with adult-hood. But that comes to all of us here, ready or not. It is true that when one is less prepared, it makes things harder. So? Some thing is always harder for everyone. Practice, practice, practice! When things don't come naturally to us we just have to practice more. You just have to discover the want to inside of you; and perhaps the want to is out of practice too. BTW: I think Super Better could work for you; it is a game. It starts out easy in the beginning. It may be that picking out a goal seems like an overwhelming task. The thing is: you don't have to pick the perfect goal, just the one that you think will be the most helpful right now and there is no right or wrong.

littlewonder -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/1/2012 11:26:22 PM)
Since you refuse to help yourself, what about your Daddy? Can't he tell you what to do and make sure you do it??? I mean, isn't that supposed to be what he does? Or does he not want to be bothered with the extra work either? Or has he given up because you won't listen to him either?

nephandi -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/2/2012 6:40:19 AM)
Greetings Yes a common sign of depression is a lack of energy to do anything, often depression is not a feeling of sadness but just plain a feeling of hopelessness or just not being motivated to do anything. When I have depressive periods often it is not that I feel sad, but rather that nothing give a feeling of fun or meaning. I can do the things I love to do and feel nothing so I am not motivated to do them. I also feel a lack of energy, meaning that even small obstacles become to difficult to get around. Now a feeling of lacking energy do not have to be depression but it is a symptom of it that you might want to discuss with your doctor. I wish you well

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/2/2012 9:39:16 AM)
I got the hair cut cause I was tired of it all over my face and how hot and heavy it was, for a moment I was having fantasies of shaving my head bald lol. but yes I did take care in selecting one that wouldn't make me look aqward. Yes, I do feel pride when I manage to clean up parts of the house, and when I've made an effort to look put together and someone notices. That's true. Right now I think my goal will be getting ready for my dental appointment the 11th, I got half a cleaning done a while ago and I want her to be impressed with the improvement of good brushing and flossing. quote: ORIGINAL: angelikaJ And I know there are times when you do take pride in yourself, Tfb. Getting the new haircut and style... making progress with a household task. It may be that picking out a goal seems like an overwhelming task. The thing is: you don't have to pick the perfect goal, just the one that you think will be the most helpful right now and there is no right or wrong.

Toppingfrmbottom -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/2/2012 9:48:53 AM)
He has a hard time taking care of himself let alone micromanaging me. I would love him to enforce things and he won't. He used to tell me to brush my teeth, for one example when he was long distance, as a way to feel he connecting to my little side, and me, and I started doping it 100 percent almost all by myself and then for some reason, I guess cause I was doing it self sufficently he stopped monitoring it, or even asking if I had. I asked him why and he didn't have an answer. quote: ORIGINAL: littlewonder Since you refuse to help yourself, what about your Daddy? Can't he tell you what to do and make sure you do it??? I mean, isn't that supposed to be what he does? Or does he not want to be bothered with the extra work either? Or has he given up because you won't listen to him either?

FrostedFlake -> RE: Is it possible to be depressed but not feel depressed? (9/2/2012 11:24:01 AM)
The key points from over here are : You are depressed. To counter that I suggest you select a PHYSICAL ACTIVITY that you genuinely enjoy and pursue it ...FOR FUN. This suggestion may seem intellectually inadequet, however... I have experience. This will work. It amounts to doing intentionally exactly what depression makes difficult. This attacks the problem head on. In time, having fun will seem normal again. Rule is a complete and total DICK to be fucking with you, repeatedly, on this thread. He is demonstrating a total lack of class. A deep cluelessness. An aggressive don't-give-a-fuck. And an ego that wouldn't fit in an elevator. On his behalf I apologize to you.

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