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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 1:24:39 AM

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I understand how Clinton was happy to endorse Obama twice now... If I were married to Hillary, I'd endorse the guy who sent her overseas too

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 1:36:38 AM

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As a Canadian, I am in a vastly different political system. Our last provincial party had something seven different political parties running. I use to be a "party" voter, based on the government under which I had been raised. Then I became a candidate voter. In fact, our current Member of Parliament is a personal friend, we attended the wedding of his daughter, my spouse taught both his children. In the last provincial election, I reverted to being a party voter, as a vote for my candidate choice would have been a vote for the wrong team. So I, like many in my province, voted for the devil we knew, over the devil we didn't. Sometimes, I wish it was sa simple two party system.

My spouse discuss the issues deeply, as our campaigns run a very short time, usually within one month. Sometimes we agree, sometimes we don't. We don't always reveal who our choice was.

As for the wife in the OP, she was very wrong. Considering all the effort it took to win women the right to vote in the first place, to take that right from another person, is abhorent. Perhaps next time, the husband will mail the ballot himself. Knowing she held such strongly differing views, was simply asking for trouble. FWIW.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 7:58:20 AM

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My ex husband was a conservative. His interest in voting was who would be the most beneficial for the insurance industry. Just one of the many things that made me realize I was married to an idiot. I always tried to convince him we should just both pledge not to vote, since we cancelled each other out anyway, but he was too smart to fall for that.
I dated a tea Partier for a while. It should have been a dream relationship, he had an interesting job he was good at, he was a great horseman and a nice guy. I am all for not being in lockstep, but then he told me that he had paid $75.00 to go see Anne Coulter speak. There are limits to my tolerance, so I broke it off.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 12:22:57 PM

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Hey popeye. I do switch once and a while. I always wanted to tie a liberal woman to a chair and put on Rush for a couple of hours.

Servant, you're fucking BRUTAL man!

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 12:59:58 PM

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Hey popeye. I do switch once and a while. I always wanted to tie a liberal woman to a chair and put on Rush for a couple of hours.

Servant, you're fucking BRUTAL man!

I'm conservative and would kill you if you did that to me. I can't stand Rush.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 1:05:38 PM

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There were many years that mom and dad didn't go vote, because they would have cancelled each other out.

I don't think mom would have ever thrown dads absentee ballot in the trash, but, I gotta think that the husband here knew that was a possibility when he gave the ballot to his wife.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 1:50:05 PM

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I have stopped having serious relationships with people who have vastly different world views than mine. I'm just not interested in a long term committed situation with someone who feels the world should be completely different from how I would like it to be. I would not do well with someone who is more right wing on social issues, for example.

What the woman did is clearly wrong, but I wonder if it is also illegal (interference with one's right to vote? interference with U.S. mail?) I doubt her husband would press charges, but it just seems wrong on multiple levels.

I do know people in relationships who have vastly different political views. I would say that about 1/3 of those relationships are actually functioning well; but 2/3 of them are disasters. I cannot say to what extent the differing political views contribute to some of the bad relationships, but, certainly, it can't help.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:01:27 PM

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My sisters and I have completely different views. They absolutely hate Obama to the point it's frightening. They are extreme republicans while I'm a middle of the road type of voter. I don't vote for a party. I vote for the person with the least evil.

I still love my sisters...to a point. When they start going on and on about their political beliefs I either walk out of the room or ask them to cool it. If they were to hand me a ballot though for them to mail out, I would mail it because I would feel guilty otherwise. Just because our values are different doesn't mean I would devalue their vote.Now I can't say the same things for my sisters. I can guarantee they would throw mine away.

Master and I agree on quite a few of the same things so I'm not too concerned really. We share a lot of the same values and morals and he also votes for the person and not the party. We talk a lot about politics. Sometimes we disagree but not on a wide berth. Usually I can find something in his argument to agree with since I'm so middle of the road to the point it's sometimes difficult for me to choose a side. Sometimes I have to make a pros and cons list.

If Master was to hand me a ballot to mail out, I would mail it out...whether I agreed or not...one, he's my Master...I'm gonna save my ass.

2. I'd feel extremely guilty to the point I would kick myself for the rest of my laugh if I threw it away.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:06:58 PM

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Hopefully it is a short lived laugh.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:17:27 PM

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Greetings Firm,

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So ... how much toleration do you have in your close personal relationships for differing political views? Could you live and love someone who held strongly opposing political stances?

There will always be differences in opinions, interests, and the things we find enjoyable or less than so in our relationships. However, to allow those opposing viewpoints to subvert what we collectively agree and aspire towards is difficult for me to fathom. It erodes the framework and lends the impression that the gentleman's capacity is limited and suggests my omission of faith in him in that regard. Oftentimes the hardest challenge is setting aside ones preferences in deference to the other person's decision that a different course of action is best for the pair. My disagreement is inconsequential if I'm committed to following his leadership. For me, that is the crux and the unchanging element that cannot be compromised.

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Was the woman's actions above something you could condemn, or praise?

There's no honor in deception or violating your husband's trust.

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Would you stay in the marriage, if you were the husband? The wife?

I view marriage from a patriarchal standpoint. Departing would not be an option or something I'd consider. However, if I behaved in this way I would hope that he would address the problem and the underlying issues that promoted its occurrence. If I elected to assert my will in this manner it would indicate that my submission has been horribly fractured in some fashion.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:35:02 PM

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He trusted her to do what was right by him. She broke that trust. Trust is trust. Without it, there is no relationship.

This.

Political points of view have evolved over the last 20+ years in my house.

What I believe the woman SHOULD have done if she didn't believe as he did.........hand the ballot back to him and tell him to deal with his own trash.

Politics are important to me. I wouldn't facilitate the gain of public office, for anyone I didn't believe was right for the job. If someone asked me to do so, I would refuse. But I wouldn't be sneaky about it, as the woman in the article was. That, to me, was the problem.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:43:03 PM

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I have been putting this on Facebook a few times a week for the past month or so.

Politics brings out the worst in folks.

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RE: The Marriage Problem That Comes Every Four Years - 9/6/2012 2:48:00 PM

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If only there was that option for politics and religioun.

I am so FUCKING SICK of my much loved uncle's pro gun, pro religion, anti everything I believe politically......SHIT. (I've been reporting them as offensive spam....

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