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DeviantlyD -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 1:15:18 AM)

Hey Kana, I fixed your post for you! This is what you really meant...right?? RIGHT????? *nods nods*

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You don't see how that wicked piece of machinery works. The spring pushes up, but the jaws dip down, so instead of the spring keeping the clip open this one works in reverse-the spring actually keeps constant hard pressure on whatever unfortunate piece of flesh is trapped between the (unpleasant touch here) alligator clips.








CRYPTICLXVI -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 6:33:48 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

[image]http://img3.fastenal.com/productimages/0745903.jpg[/image]

...and going back to "Casual Banter".

You can overnight me a dozen of those bad boys Cryptic


Kana understands...

Alligator clips.
Better price, with 5' cable.




Kana -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 7:44:08 AM)


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

[image]http://img3.fastenal.com/productimages/0745903.jpg[/image]

...and going back to "Casual Banter".

You can overnight me a dozen of those bad boys Cryptic


Kana understands...

Alligator clips.
Better price, with 5' cable.


I knew I liked ya, Kid. :-)
Hopes the lilone is smart enough to order a dozen right quick...




littlewonder -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 11:19:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

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ORIGINAL: Kana


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

[image]http://img3.fastenal.com/productimages/0745903.jpg[/image]

...and going back to "Casual Banter".

You can overnight me a dozen of those bad boys Cryptic


Kana understands...

Alligator clips.
Better price, with 5' cable.


I knew I liked ya, Kid. :-)
Hopes the lilone is smart enough to order a dozen right quick...




Pretends she never ever read this thread and thus innocent of not seeing that "request".




ExSteelAgain -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 1:31:07 PM)

I put no credence on my past influencing me. History doesn’t have to repeat itself. I am unique, talented, caring about others and introspective. I think situations out and react in a logical manner for the utilitarian best outcome for myself and others. I overcame a lot of adversities without believing the hardships have anything to do with making me the person I am. I also experienced great love from many and gave great love without it changing me.

My dominant, sadistic, sexual drive has been part of me from a very early age. It began for real when I was about 20 and spanked a woman with a hairbrush until we both came. I don’t get hung up on amateur self-analysis or attempt to diagnose others. Want a spanking, flogging, whipping, slapping, sadistically sexual session, come see me. I won’t label you anything but a play partner, friend or lover.




Salinedion -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 2:12:34 PM)

What zillionth of a percent even goes to an indie movie at all, let alone The Secretary?

What microscopic demographic deigns to buy 50 shades of grey compared to the wider kink-apathetic world?

These slights and misrepresentations in these once in a leap year kink media teapot tempests are pretty small potatoes.




Missokyst -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 2:27:00 PM)

I dont know what this is, but when a masochist sees it and gets nervous, be afraid, be very afraid...

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD


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ORIGINAL: CRYPTICLXVI

[image]http://img3.fastenal.com/productimages/0745903.jpg[/image]

...and going back to "Casual Banter".


Just WTF is that!?!?!





GotSteel -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 6:40:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
Ok that's fine. I would say that many people did find out about BDSM in a clean wholesome way.


I watched Return of the Jedi.




kitkat105 -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 9:18:49 PM)

Maybe, maybe not. I had a pretty good idea of what I did want in my relationships and have luckily come to that. I think for me personally it's a combination of personality and experience.

I like Dominant men who are in control & make the decisions and I also like doing things to please them and make their life easier.

An amusing thing my Mum said to Odeen today, "You own her now."





LanceHughes -> RE: The wrong way (9/8/2012 9:32:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
<snipped>You know the patter... "We are normal, just like everyone else only kinky. We did not develop this interest from any sort of abuse, it is just who we are." This is always said defensively, largely I believe because until very recently BDSM was considered a mental disorder by the psychiatric community (DSM-IV).
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First, a correction, and a VERY important one at that.  DSM-V has an issue date of May, 2013, so be careful, be very careful until then. 

Secondly, the parallels to being gay are strong. I'm gay because I am.  I'm a Leatherman (gay BDSMer) because I am.

Leathermen are discriminated against by the vanilla gay community in the exact same way straight BDSMers are discriminated against by the straight vanilla community. 

Lance is NOT whineing, just stating a fact that I live with "double discrimination," if that's a phrase.




chatterbox24 -> RE: The wrong way (9/9/2012 7:01:22 AM)

I came from a divorced home, mother remarried, and religion always was an influence. I was 45 before I ever had a clue about what Bdsm was. I thought it was crazy people, all about sex, deviants, evil etc.
I met a man like I had never met before. It was quite challenging and he was quite strict and disciplined. My father was a playboy, fun and undisciplined and I think thats how I came to be attracted to a dom, I craved a strong man. I didnt marry one with set rules that could never be swayed. I found it very attractive. I think some people just blindly stumble into the lifestyle, it was a fluke for me.
The situation was not ideal and became quite a mess, but I can honestly say, it was also where I found understanding of myself. The reason why we do the things we do type thing. Nothing like clarity to problems that have plagued you for years. Enlightment is such a great gift.




gungadin09 -> RE: The wrong way (9/10/2012 2:41:03 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Missokyst
When movies like "Secretary"... came out there was a huge cry out of the community......We are not like those damaged people!...

I have learned to embrace at least this part of who I am and how I got here. Those kinky roots are buried deep, but they did stem from something in the days before the web made it trendy and available to all.

At least from my POV, this is perversion. And I embrace it. Do you embrace it regardless of how you got here?


I arrived here dysfunctional, due to a mixture of nature, upbringing, bad choices, and romantic fantasy. If any one of those things had been different, I don't know if I would have got here at all.

I remember romanticizing my dysfunction, making a virtue of pathology. It was pretence, a cowardly evasion of the truth. I was one of those damaged people that the rest of the community dislikes being compared to.

What can I say, I'm working on it. The healthier I become, the more I realise how unhealthy I was before.

At this point I'm still "under construction". When I get done, I suspect I'll still be kinky. The trick will be finding way of turning something which started out negative and dysfunctional into something positive and healthy.

I can't say I "embrace" my kinkiness, because that's exactly the kind of romantic exaggeration that I'm trying to avoid. I don't "embrace" kink any more than I embrace eating, sleeping, or breathing. Do I think it's perversion? Just the parts I don't like.

Pam




mnottertail -> RE: The wrong way (9/10/2012 2:49:14 PM)

Meh, most of us are older, and have a little hail damage, it got  nothing to do with nothing, really....

the Bell curve, it's what's for dinner....some number got their kink from damage, some got their kink from wearing thier mothers underpants, some from having a vivid imagination while watching Princess Summerfall Winterspring on Howdy Doody, and watching Annette Funicello licking peanut butter in the Mickey Mouse club.....some by accident, some by design, some by a slap and tickle, some by reading dads dirty magazines (which begs the question, where did he get it from, or moms dirty magazines, (I know where she got it from) or any other number of books or movies or insides of our dna and secret ganglion that said, hey, it would be like just fuckin hawt to....

So, Ja the bent up people shit works just like the minister works, like the physicist works, like the ............

Meh. Just Meh. 

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts and minds of men?



The Shadow knows...................bwwwwwwwwwahhhhahhhhhahaaaaaaa
 




xssve -> RE: The wrong way (9/10/2012 10:21:53 PM)

What dirty magazines? I only had the Sears catalog, and to this day I think a shapeless flannel nightie is sexier than anything from Victoria's secret.

Twisted I tell ya.

But yeah, shit was crazy back in the day, there were fucked up people everywhere - I asked the neighbors visiting niece onetime what her name was, must have been only 6 or 7 at the the time - "cunt" she replied.

Gotta be a story there: I had to make her repeat it three or four time just to make sure I wasn't hearing things.

I didn't even know what it meant, they asked me at dinner that night if I had played with the girl, I said "yes", they asked me what her name was, I said "cunt".

Talk about an eclectic variety of responses.




Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: The wrong way (9/11/2012 12:32:46 AM)

Missokyst, I myself was drawn to all this madness at an early age before I even understood it. It was extremely confusing and rather much a result of a combination of many things. Yeah, some of it dark and centers around some childhood abuse issues. Notice I said "some of it". It's very much was formed and took root on many different levels and layers. Very much so starting in my childhood. I really can't undo all my experiences in life, so the alternative has been for me to embrace it. I've come to understand many many things much better over the years.

This might sound a bit odd, but one day my Grandfather... explained to me that there are two different kinds of people in the world. Leaders and followers. He explained that if I was to become a follower to pick my leader wisely. That if I was a Leader to pick my followers wisely. That both required some form of conscious thought and careful consideration. That there was no shame in being either. Then he posed an interesting question for me to ask myself... Which am I? A leader or a follower? He did not want me to answer him. Only for me to ask myself this question.

Now, little things like this... also played a role in shaping my views and the way I look at the world. There was a lot more to the Leader vs. Follower talks that he had given me. I'm just trying to condense one small piece of my own puzzle to share with others here.

My interactions with other kids also played a strong role. Yeah, even the things I watched on TV. When I got older hell even the porno stashes shared between friends. Not to mention my interactions with the Girl Next Door. many many many things!

I've been pretty reserved in the last couple of years in sharing details on the Board. Personally, I while I've had to embrace the childhood abuse elements... it's far from being the only thing which set the stage. There's plenty of people "abused or not" which are into BDSM, D/s and kink in general.

We all fall into developing our own ways of dealing with shit starting at an early age. Take on certain interests and start to develop certain urges and tendencies. Just takes hold and continues to grow and change over time.




Missokyst -> RE: The wrong way (9/11/2012 8:42:06 AM)

oh, I don't mean it to seem like the abuse was the sole reason for my interests. I write, sculpt, paint, have been a dancer a singer an artist, I have worked as a bartender, a furniture mover, a clerk and a wide range of things in between. I read before age 4 but didn't talk till I was 2.5, my first 3 yrs were actually very normal. I have never let anything stop me from learning and that includes learning about my personal influences. I want to know. More correctly, I NEED to know why things happen and that desire to learn stemmed from a very early age, during those first 3 yrs I suspect. Probably why I was so quiet, I was gathering info like a small sponge not letting anything interfere. I spent a lot of time listening to conversations and storing them kind of like a recorder.

I know a lot of people don't care about why they do what they do, or what draws them into their interests, but I like to know mine. I like to know a lot of things and each thing springs me into another path of knowlege. Heck, sometimes traveling down one path of exploration leads me into another, which is why I can't stop learning, and kinda why I have done a hell of a lot unusual kinky stuff.

I do believe that we are either leaders or followers. I have been a loner but oddly often cast as a leader because when it comes to duties I believe someone has to step up, I find few are willing to do so. It is very rare for me to be a follower in anything, politics, religion, education, or even in bdsm. I have been a slave but not a follower. I have been submissive but not a follower. In slavery it was a duty and following had nothing to do with it. In submission I obey because that is the product of my life training. And even that is not following, mostly I end up working along side my mate, choosing to let him make the calls because I trust my choice. Choices for me are made carefully. It is why there have been so few men in my life even though I have been single since 23 or so.

I KNOW there are regular people who discovered bdsm and found a niche. And I also know that I took a different path and probably never will find the way to regular. Way back in 99 when I discovered that not ever one did this and certainly not everyone who did this had some ... let's say, less than savory episodes early on in life I had to come to terms with being "OK" with being me, all over again. Because there were a lot of people who were not abused and they were making some serious negative judgements on those of us who may have been abused. In this things have not changed.

Every time someone writes a book, makes a movie, or something that re-exposes the masses to kink what I hear most is "That is not the norm!" Well... from my POV at least, it may not be the norm but it is also not bad, evil, or wrong to have been introduced to things while taking a different path, IF along the way you have learned to adapt and find contentment or even joy in doing what you do.



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ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

I really can't undo all my experiences in life, so the alternative has been for me to embrace it. I've come to understand many many things much better over the years.

This might sound a bit odd, but one day my Grandfather... explained to me that there are two different kinds of people in the world. Leaders and followers. I've been pretty reserved in the last couple of years in sharing details on the Board. Personally, I while I've had to embrace the childhood abuse elements... it's far from being the only thing which set the stage. There's plenty of people "abused or not" which are into BDSM, D/s and kink in general.






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