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ARIES83 -> RE: Sadistic-Narcissism (9/8/2012 4:11:21 PM)
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
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ORIGINAL: WomanlyWiles
My mother doesn't have an official diagnosis, but I'm now a professional in a relevant field, and it's clear to me that she has NPD. She and my father have been married for 46 years now. He worships the ground she walks on. So yes, people with NPD can have long relationships. They're not healthy relationships and they are abusive to any children, but they can last. You just need someone to put up with it. My parents are in their early seventies, and very much of the 'you made your bed, now you have to lie on' generation. Divorce was unthinkable.
This and ..
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ORIGINAL: littlewonder
Well, my daughter is a certified narcissist and while she is in a relationship, I think she's oblivious to her narcissism and it took me by surprise that she was able to even get in a relationship. She's not exactly always the caring, loveable type of person. It takes one hell of a man to put up with the stuff she does. It's her way or no way and she will make sure you know that right up front. It's always going to be about her and everyone else second.
So, does she care? Sometimes but after she gets what she wants first and if you disagree you can pretty much count her out of your life. She's not as bad as when she was a kid, but it's definitely still noticeable.
Do they do it differently as you said....sorta. She just puts herself ahead with no thought of fall out from her actions. She come first always according to her.
this are pretty much, what I have been saying from my first post. I'm sure relationships are had but I doubt that they are truly loving, caring relationships. They're "dysfunctional", at best.
And thank you for sharing about your personal lives, ladies.
Peace and comfort,
Michael
Ok, I just wanted to clarify it because there
seemed to be a common type of conception
about Narcissism that was a bit over simplistic
and was bordering, lumping them in all in the
same boat as the most extreme forms/cases.
I've got another question for you DS, if you
not over the topic already.
This is a excerpt from a wiki article about a
book dealing with a certain aspect of
Psychopaths.
One thing I'm interested in with malignant-NPD
is, the ability to "Internalise" which has a huge
effect on their basic NPD and I think makes this
type very tricky as it basicly allows them to
compensate (maybe sub-consciously) for their
basic NPD traits and creates (as far as I can see)
a very similar kind of situation a the article below,
it's especially interesting to me if it's something
they are un-aware of.
Would you be able to share any thoughts you had
on,
-the mask effects described in the excerpt...
-the possible manifestation of the internalisation
process in Malignant-NPD.
-and if its not asking to much, some thoughts on
anything you see in common in either manifestation
and it's practical effects.
Thanks in advance [:D]
Exerpt:
Cleckley describes the psychopathic person as outwardly a perfect mimic of a normally functioning person, able to mask or disguise the fundamental lack of internal personality structure, an internal chaos that results in repeatedly purposeful destructive behavior, often more self-destructive than destructive to others. Despite the seemingly sincere, intelligent, even charming external presentation, internally the psychopathic person does not have the ability to experience genuine emotions. Cleckley questions whether this mask of sanity is voluntarily assumed intentionally to hide the lack of internal structure, or if the mask hides a serious, but yet unidentified, psychiatric defect.
-Wiki
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