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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 1:37:01 PM   
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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 1:44:23 PM   
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For God's sakes man, reading comprehension is your friend.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 1:48:01 PM   
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It's simply not neccessary!

Oh, and where's all the outrage from the "U.N.?"

(crickets.....)

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 1:48:17 PM   
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Over the top: Yesterday we noted that Mitt Romney, down in the polls after the convention, was throwing the kitchen sink at President Obama. Little did we know the kitchen sink would include -- on the anniversary of 9/11 -- one of the most over-the-top and (it turns out) incorrect attacks of the general election campaign. Last night after 10:00 pm ET, Romney released a statement on the attacks on the U.S. embassies in Egypt and Libya. After saying he was “outraged” by these attacks and the death of an American consulate worker, Romney said, “It's disgraceful that the Obama administration's first response was not to condemn attacks on our diplomatic missions, but to sympathize with those who waged the attacks.”
Yet after learning every piece of new information about those the attacks, the Romney statement looks worse and worse -- and simply off-key.


Bottom line? Romney has been a bad/lame boy this election year, and Republican 911 Sqanta left him some coal

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 2:28:44 PM   
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hahhahahahhahaha right wing bullflop as usual


I just read it aloud ( I mean, we are following public reaction to this as well as policy related response and political  behavior in general). I won't comment on the reaction since I would probably get accused of something. I will just say there was an acute emotional response and it wasn't anger.


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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 3:22:51 PM   
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Free Reply.

The original statement, posted by the Embassy before the attack, has been removed from the State Department website and from Twitter as well as the associated tweets. This statement was issued by the Administration through the State Department. It's been furthur confirmed the Administration did have information about real threats to our Embassies prior to the statement. The statement (issued by the Administration through the Embassy) did not warn that threatened attacks on American Embassies would not be tolerated but instead was written to sooth feelings and assure all that the Administration did not agree with the use of our Free Speech rights to show another religion in a bad light.

Kumbaya and we now have a burnt out Embassy and dead Amercians.

It must be noted there is no good reason for removing the orginal statement refered to by Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney when he refered to the Administration's posting as apologetic. The only possible reason is the Administration is embarrased by it and, failing to distance itself from it, has simply ... well, they simply erased it and hope that makes it go away.

Obama = Carter.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 3:47:54 PM   
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I know he's awesome with the paperwork but whew! That's a lotta checking up of stuff!

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 4:22:53 PM   
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Between the hyperpartisanship that seems to have settled like smog over our political class and the advent of a close election, even tragedy becomes an opportunity to score partisan points.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 4:51:01 PM   
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Free Reply.

The original statement, posted by the Embassy before the attack, has been removed from the State Department website and from Twitter as well as the associated tweets. This statement was issued by the Administration through the State Department.
Obama = Carter.

hahahaha... aren't you charming. Your misconception holds EVER SO TINY a droplet of water if there is the assumption of conspiracy.
  Clue - Egypt and Libya in different places.
But no, go on and tell us what statement the United States State Department is supposed to issue every time a Cleric in Egypt goes on TV and calls for a protest at the US Embassy and Swipes a Flag (Incidentally, DO YOU KNOW WHY that flag is draped over the wall? Nah probably not. Also, do you know how long the wall sitting episode lasted before the US Marines on duty repelled them? Doubt it)??? So what is your specific recommendation? Should they "pop a cap" in the asses of a few hundred of them? You tell  me?
   Fast forward to Libya the other SEPARATE Incident, are you claiming there's some kind of  response that hasn't taken place in the few short hours since the event? I mean besides Romney breaking the news to families in about as inappropriate manner possible.
   Bottom line sir (and that IS a SMALL "S" there), if Obama equals Carter, Romney CERTAINLY equals Trailer Trash.
 
By the way the real "kumbayah" is really LOUTS dancing on American's graves before they're even in them.

Also, show us the specific "threats" you keep going on and on about. You know there are DAILY threats issued all over the middle east against the US, right? I DEFY YOU to show us your special intelligence.
By the way, our wire just spit this out - "
U.S. officials said about 50 Marines who are members of an elite group known as a Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team are being sent to Libya to reinforce security at U.S. diplomatic facilities. The team's role is to respond on short notice to terrorism threats, say officials, who disclosed the plan on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak publicly." source = AP

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 4:55:43 PM   
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Free Reply.

The original statement, posted by the Embassy before the attack, has been removed from the State Department website and from Twitter as well as the associated tweets. This statement was issued by the Administration through the State Department. It's been furthur confirmed the Administration did have information about real threats to our Embassies prior to the statement. The statement (issued by the Administration through the Embassy) did not warn that threatened attacks on American Embassies would not be tolerated but instead was written to sooth feelings and assure all that the Administration did not agree with the use of our Free Speech rights to show another religion in a bad light.

Kumbaya and we now have a burnt out Embassy and dead Amercians.

It must be noted there is no good reason for removing the orginal statement refered to by Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney when he refered to the Administration's posting as apologetic. The only possible reason is the Administration is embarrased by it and, failing to distance itself from it, has simply ... well, they simply erased it and hope that makes it go away.

Obama = Carter.

its still there, this was taken at 7pm this evening






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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 5:16:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		I see this whole incident as a missed opportunity for Romney to actually do the right thing and look Presidential.

When you run a country or a campaign, there are just too many things going on for you to have your finger into every decision. This stands for both President Obama and Governor Romney on both communications that went out - from the embassy and from the campaign.

This tragic incident is not something to be politicized - it is the time when we close ranks.

Romney had an opportunity to come out today and admit that something happened in his campaign that he is not proud of, that he was unaware of it until it had already gone out (which I will be generous and assume to be true), but that it was inappropriate, and unfortunate, and that such a tragedy was not something over which either party should be trying to score points on. Apologies all round, and get back to things. He comes off looking like a star, in charge and owning responsibility for his campaign.

He did not do this.

In my opinion, President Obama should have been silent on the issue rather than issuing his own rebuke today.

Both parties cough up the football when the ball should have been downed and a timeout called.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 5:53:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Arturas


Free Reply.

The original statement, posted by the Embassy before the attack, has been removed from the State Department website and from Twitter as well as the associated tweets. This statement was issued by the Administration through the State Department. It's been furthur confirmed the Administration did have information about real threats to our Embassies prior to the statement. The statement (issued by the Administration through the Embassy) did not warn that threatened attacks on American Embassies would not be tolerated but instead was written to sooth feelings and assure all that the Administration did not agree with the use of our Free Speech rights to show another religion in a bad light.

Kumbaya and we now have a burnt out Embassy and dead Amercians.

It must be noted there is no good reason for removing the orginal statement refered to by Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney when he refered to the Administration's posting as apologetic. The only possible reason is the Administration is embarrased by it and, failing to distance itself from it, has simply ... well, they simply erased it and hope that makes it go away.

Obama = Carter.


What part of ~the attack happened AFTER the embassy statement~ don`t you understand?



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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 6:02:24 PM   
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The statement was not issued by Obama despite the GOP stating it was.


Sure it was. The embassy is run by Hillary and Hillary reports to Obama. Obama is President. The buck stops with the President or (either) the President has lost control. You decide. The spin stops here.

Are you seriously suggesting that the entirety of the U.S gov.speaks with one voice ?
That the left hand always knows what the right hand is doing ?
The whole apparatus operates as one well oiled machine 100 % of the time ?
Nice spin yourself pal,but I,and most other intelligent common sense folks,aren't buying the bullshit you,and Romney,are selling.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 6:41:43 PM   
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However.......the statement came BEFORE the attack......not as a result of it.

It was a statement that stated our shared values and commitment to religious freedom everywhere.......NOT, an apology.

The diplomats are fighting and dying to promote those values we cherish.....they as are our soldiers.....are on the front lines.

Those men and women are there doing a very difficult and sometimes dangerous job and we have Mittens dissing them, even before the smoke cleared. 

Mitt "doubled downed" today......seeming to be clueless that he`s looking and sounding like a complete jack-ass.

As I said before......the only one`s buying this poop are the kool-aid drinkers and other malcontents.......they are never going to vote for the president anyway and so don`t count,anyway.

But normal folks......swing voters and indys are going to recoil in disgust at how craven Romney is with this bogus,stupid attack.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 6:52:03 PM   
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No doubt his handlers and followers are kissing his taint....


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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 6:53:17 PM   
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Ok. I was wrong. There's not an interesting thing here.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 6:59:29 PM   
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But its gone now..
Im sure we all tried our hardest to "interest" you tho....

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 7:18:16 PM   
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Yup......smirks......

If one looks at Mitt when "doubles down",knowing he`s pulling this stuff out of his ass.....it looks even worse.

Trying to make political hay out of someone`s death is just fucked up......

You see less concern about the victims than with bashing the president ( for something that never happened.)He doesn`t care about them.

You see even less concern for the facts.

This reminds me of that poor dope in Iraq who said that no American troops were around as a US tank rolls by behind him......

Funny....just recently......Mitt called foreign policy a "distraction"Now while he thinks he`s got a fish on the line,FP is suddenly important.

When Mitt finds out the blood on the floor is from shooting himself in the foot....he`ll certainly flip-flop back into claiming FP is a distraction, again.


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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 7:25:12 PM   
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Ok. I was wrong. There's not an interesting thing here.





Well thanks there little buddy......but we`ll do just fine without you......don`t worry.....

But thanks for commenting on something that didn`t interest you.....lol.

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RE: GOP rushes to criticize Obama after Libyan embassy ... - 9/12/2012 7:51:49 PM   
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It's been furthur confirmed the Administration did have information about real threats to our Embassies prior to the statement.


Um. You're claiming that the Administration had foreknowledge of the upcoming attack and failed to ensure the safety of those attacked? Got a source for that?

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