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farglebargle -> Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 5:14:20 AM)

I'm pretty sure that's why the tax returns aren't being released. If his official residence isn't his kids unfinished basement, he's committed a VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT, and if I recall correctly, Republicans advocate the death penalty or something for it, right?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/




DaNewAgeViking -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 10:56:13 AM)

If that's the case, Fargle, it's hardly a surprise. But who is going to prosecute a big name Radical, even after he loses the election? I'm afraid you've discovered a disease for which there is no cure.
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Hillwilliam -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 11:00:49 AM)

Maybe someone finally found a verifiable case of Voter fraud.




crazyml -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 11:02:00 AM)

Hmm... the story you posted appears to relate to voter registration fraud.

Have you used the correct link?




subrob1967 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 12:13:59 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Maybe someone finally found a verifiable case of Voter fraud.


All you had to do is look toward Maryland




tj444 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 12:42:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I'm pretty sure that's why the tax returns aren't being released. If his official residence isn't his kids unfinished basement, he's committed a VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT, and if I recall correctly, Republicans advocate the death penalty or something for it, right?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/

Not according to the Town Clerk.. Romney's legal to vote there..
and according to your link,.. there is a guest room with a bath as part of the addition so perhaps thats where Mitt lives when in that state..

"Did Mitt Commit Voter Fraud? Town Clerk Says 'No' "
Since she has been expecting and has received numerous requests for information on Romney's residency, Cushman quickly produced two signed letters from Romney indicating he was changing his Belmont voting address from Marsh Street to Greenbrook Way in May 2009 and then to his present home on South Cottage Road.
"Since he meets all the requirements to vote in the country – he's over 18, an American citizen and a resident of the town – he is and has been registered to vote in Belmont," she said.
Cushman noted that as long as Romney isn't trespassing in someone's home and hasn't requested to become a resident of another town anywhere else in the country, he is considered a resident of Belmont.Â
While Ronmey is reported to spend considerable time in his other homes and traveling, that is not unusual for many fellow Belmont residents, said Cushman.Â
"We have quite a number of 'snow birds' who live half the year in Florida or down South and there are residents who use the town as a home-base since they are traveling on business for most of the year," said Cushman.
http://belmont.patch.com/articles/did-mitt-commit-voter-fraud-town-clerk-says-no




Aylee -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 5:02:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I'm pretty sure that's why the tax returns aren't being released. If his official residence isn't his kids unfinished basement, he's committed a VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT, and if I recall correctly, Republicans advocate the death penalty or something for it, right?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/



I never saw where he stated he was living in the basement.

This story is from June of 2011. That is over a year ago.

So. . . Fargle. . . are you going to accuse every college student that votes in their hometown while attending university in another one of Tax and Voter fraud? Hmmmmm?




subrob1967 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 5:51:26 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I'm pretty sure that's why the tax returns aren't being released. If his official residence isn't his kids unfinished basement, he's committed a VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT, and if I recall correctly, Republicans advocate the death penalty or something for it, right?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/



I never saw where he stated he was living in the basement.

This story is from June of 2011. That is over a year ago.

So. . . Fargle. . . are you going to accuse every college student that votes in their hometown while attending university in another one of Tax and Voter fraud? Hmmmmm?


Are you kidding? Everyone knows who those fra... er people vote for.[;)]




kalikshama -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 6:32:19 PM)

You might be on to something fargle...

Did Mitt Romney Commit Voter Fraud?

Mon Jun. 13, 2011

Did Mitt Romney commit voter fraud when he cast a ballot for Scott Brown in last year's special election in Massachusetts? On Monday, one of his lesser known opponents for the GOP presidential nomination, Fred Karger, filed a complaint with Massachusetts state election officials alleging that he voted for Brown, as well as in other Massachusetts elections, when he was not in fact a resident of the Bay State.

In his complaint, Karger lays out a chronology of Romney's real estate moves since his failed presidential bid in 2008. According to Karger's timetable, Romney and his wife, Ann, bought a $12.5 million home in La Jolla, California, in May 2008. ("I wanted to be where I could hear the waves," Romney told the AP of his move to the West Coast.) Thereafter, Romney became a regular at California political events, even campaigning for Meg Whitman during her gubernatorial bid. A year later, in April 2009, the Romneys sold their home in Belmont, Massachusetts, for $3.5 million, and registered to vote from an address in the basement of an 8,000 square-foot Belmont manse owned by their son Tagg. But where the Romneys really lived these past couple of years seems to be a bit of a mystery. While Romney was appearing at so many California political events people were speculating he was going to run for office there, the National Journal reported in May 2009 that the Romneys had made their primary residence a $10 million estate in New Hampshire.

The discrepancies in the news coverage prompted Karger to take a closer look, in part because he found it dubious that a guy worth $500 million would really be living in his son's basement. Investigating this mystery was right up Karger's alley. He spent 30 years working for one of California’s preeminent GOP consulting firms, doing opposition research for candidates, as well as the tobacco industry, so he has plenty of experience digging up dirt on political adversaries.

Fraudulent voter registration in Massachusetts carries a penalty of $10,000 and up to five years in jail. And the law in Massachusetts is pretty clear about the residency requirements needed to vote in the state. The state defines residence as "where a person dwells and which is the center of his domestic, social, and civil life."

Using that definition, Karger spent some time interviewing Belmont residents, including members of the Romneys' local Mormon Temple, where they’d been regulars, and asked people when they’d last seen the the former Massachusetts governor or his wife around town. The local fishmonger told Karger, "They flew the coop. They moved to California. I haven’t seen Mrs. Romney in over two years, and she used to come in here all the time." Likewise, churchgoers used to worshiping with the Romneys told Karger that they also hadn't seen the Romneys in a couple years. Yet the Romneys continued to vote in Massachusetts, including in the January 2010 special election to fill Ted Kennedy’s Senate seat. Karger says he even received personal confirmation from Ann Romney about the couple's living arrangments. In April, Karger says he ran into her in Las Vegas at a meeting of the Republican Jewish Coalition, where Mitt was speaking. According to Karger, Ann told him they are living in California.

In July 2010, the Romneys bought an $895,000 attached townhouse in Belmont, on the grounds of the McLean Mental Hospital, a move that finally gave Mitt a permanent Massachusetts address. Karger has asked the state to open an investigation into the Romneys' residency, as well as into whether they’ve been paying Massachusetts income taxes. The Romney campaign did not respond to a request for comment.

Residency issues have plagued Mitt Romney in the past. When he campaigned for governor of Massachusetts in 2002, he ran into trouble because he had switched his residency to Utah three years earlier when he moved to Park City to take over the struggling Salt Lake Olympic operation. The move technically made him ineligible to run for office in Massachusetts, which requires seven years of continuous state residency before a candidate is eligible to run. After a lot of legal wrangling and paying back taxes, he was finally allowed on the ballot.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud




Aylee -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 7:38:45 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You might be on to something fargle...

/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud


I guess that you did not read tj444's response from the town clerk.

No. He did not commit voter fraud.




cloudboy -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 8:03:45 PM)

Its too bad the elections in the USA can't focus in the issues and abilities of the candidates. We could be spared all this crap if the election cycles were regulated, and campaigning were limited to a six week period before the election. If the American voter swing voter can't figure out who to vote for over that period of time, we can just seize his voter registration card and heave it into the trash can.




subrob1967 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/13/2012 9:40:00 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You might be on to something fargle...

/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud


I guess that you did not read tj444's response from the town clerk.

No. He did not commit voter fraud.



She's using Mother Jones as a source... It's kinda obvious she missed tj's legitimate link.




tj444 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 8:38:39 AM)

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee

quote:

ORIGINAL: kalikshama

You might be on to something fargle...

/mojo/2011/06/did-mitt-romney-commit-voter-fraud


I guess that you did not read tj444's response from the town clerk.

No. He did not commit voter fraud.


She's using Mother Jones as a source... It's kinda obvious she missed tj's legitimate link.

and guess where i found that link.. it was posted in one of the 8 comments to Fargle's OP link! imagine that!... sometimes it pays to read reader comments... [:D]




kalikshama -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 10:42:21 AM)

quote:

She's using Mother Jones as a source... It's kinda obvious she missed tj's legitimate link.


It's kinda obvious you missed this from the article in the OP:

As Mother Jones, which broke the story yesterday, notes,

From the town clerk story:

"Cushman noted that as long as Romney isn't trespassing in someone's home and hasn't requested to become a resident of another town anywhere else in the country, he is considered a resident of Belmont"

His taxes would show where he claimed residence that year.




mnottertail -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 11:33:16 AM)

and in utah, paying property taxes is an assumed request to be a resident of that state.  you actually have to write a letter explaining why not if it is some vacation home or whatever, and that you don't want to be a resident.




tazzygirl -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 11:45:42 AM)

That nagging little bit of residency law.... different between each state... will come back to bite many in the ass.




Owner59 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 11:59:36 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That nagging little bit of residency law.... different between each state... will come back to bite many in the ass.


These laws are some of the most abused in the nation by 1%ers with so many houses they lose count.......


For tax purposes and for voter fraud.




tj444 -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 3:16:44 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That nagging little bit of residency law.... different between each state... will come back to bite many in the ass.


These laws are some of the most abused in the nation by 1%ers with so many houses they lose count.......


For tax purposes and for voter fraud.

I thought for income tax it depended on where you had your Driver's License address as...

You dont need to be a 1%er to have more than one house.. but it sounds to me like Mitt has only 2 houses (that he owns).. are you trying to say he can't count that high??? [:D]




LookieNoNookie -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 3:24:23 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: farglebargle

I'm pretty sure that's why the tax returns aren't being released. If his official residence isn't his kids unfinished basement, he's committed a VERY SERIOUS CRIMINAL ACT, and if I recall correctly, Republicans advocate the death penalty or something for it, right?

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brendancoffey/2011/06/15/did-mitt-romney-live-in-his-sons-unfinished-basement-last-year/


Get over it.

I'm certainly not in his class as to income, but I do ok.

Ya'll take your deductions....so do I.

Get the fuck over it.

Those of you that have 12 kids....you get yours.

Those of you that have 16 commercial bldgs., you get yours.

Everyone get's there's.

Guess what...regardless of who you vote in...your world is about to change (so is mine).

Deal with it.





tazzygirl -> RE: Mitt Romney committed TAX FRAUD claiming multiple residencies... (9/14/2012 3:44:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tj444


quote:

ORIGINAL: Owner59

quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

That nagging little bit of residency law.... different between each state... will come back to bite many in the ass.


These laws are some of the most abused in the nation by 1%ers with so many houses they lose count.......


For tax purposes and for voter fraud.

I thought for income tax it depended on where you had your Driver's License address as...

You dont need to be a 1%er to have more than one house.. but it sounds to me like Mitt has only 2 houses (that he owns).. are you trying to say he can't count that high??? [:D]


No, it doesnt depend on where your DL is based. Many dont have a DL at all.

Each state has residency rules. In order to know if Romney broke those rules, you would have to know where all his homes are, what properties he may own in all those places, what state taxes he filed and if he filed as a full resident or part time resident.




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