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Aylee -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 9:47:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have any idea how many 'credible threats' the SD receives per day? And no it would not in general be in the President's daily briefing.


Of course Mr. Obama would have to attend the security breifings in the first place.

Got a shred of evidence he didn't?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-alone-this-president-does-not-need-intel-briefers/2012/09/13/c11e1a52-fda5-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html?socialreader_check=0&denied=1

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/19523404/obama-event-in-las-vegas-to-draw-10k-people





Hillwilliam -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 9:52:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have any idea how many 'credible threats' the SD receives per day? And no it would not in general be in the President's daily briefing.


Of course Mr. Obama would have to attend the security breifings in the first place.

Got a shred of evidence he didn't?


http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/marc-thiessen-obama-alone-this-president-does-not-need-intel-briefers/2012/09/13/c11e1a52-fda5-11e1-b153-218509a954e1_story.html?socialreader_check=0&denied=1

http://www.fox5vegas.com/story/19523404/obama-event-in-las-vegas-to-draw-10k-people




Per your source.

"He noted that Obama had attended a principals meeting of the National Security Council on Sept. 10 and reiterated that he reads the PDB. “As I’ve told you every time you ask, the President gets his PDB every day,” Vietor told me by e-mail, adding this swipe at Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush: “Unlike your former boss, he has it delivered to his residence in the morning and not briefed to him.” (This new line of defense was echoed this morning by my Post colleague, Dana Milbank, who writes that Bush was briefed every day by his intelligence advisers because he “decided he would prefer to read less.”)"

He reads it himself every day like a big boy instead of having to have it read TO him like his predecessor.

Your second post says nothing about security briefings. It only mentions that a speech got pushed back a half hour.

Seriously, how do you absorb material better? Do you absorb it by reading it or having it read to you?

Most people are visually oriented so the former is true.



Lucylastic -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 9:53:01 AM)

so your saying that he doesnt get his briefings or that he doesnt have meetings to get them read to him??????
its not like he cant use an ipad or table to use viber or skype or get in touch with anyone when he is in airforce one, ....being physically present is more important??
heh, echoing Hills bit too...



Rule -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 10:33:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
If they didn't....then they fucked up

Fuck ups can happen, of course. But in events of political importance they rarely occur: nearly all such things are meticulously planned.

So the interesting question is: were any of the murdered personnel purposely sacrificed, and if so, what made them eligible to be sacrificed?



Politesub53 -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 10:56:05 AM)

Rob......Even you cant think this is the same as 9/11........... Oh wait, maybe you can. [8|]

Rule........Your question isnt interesting, its stupidity. No one was sacrificed.



Rule -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 11:59:57 AM)

I never asserted that any were sacrificed, Ps53. Please either pay attention to the posts that you are responding to or go fishing or to bed, or whatever.



slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:12:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: cloudboy


He's not interested in facts or solutions. I asked him how he would have handled the Great Recession, he refused to answer. He wants deficit reduction, but he wants insurance to have to cover preexisting conditions without an individual mandate.

He rails against Obama and the debt accumulated during his term, but he does not want to know the root causes.

Now he wants us to equate Libya with the 2001 9/11 attacks.

I've lost all respect for him.

"Lost" would seem to imply that at one time you had some ?
Really ? Why and when ?



slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:15:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have any idea how many 'credible threats' the SD receives per day? And no it would not in general be in the President's daily briefing.


Of course Mr. Obama would have to attend the security breifings in the first place.

And you are implying that President Obama routinely skips his own briefings ?
Really ?
Tell you what,you made that silly claim, now I'm going to ask for proof of same or just go ahead and label this so much right wing bullshit !



slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:21:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Rule

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk
If they didn't....then they fucked up

Fuck ups can happen, of course. But in events of political importance they rarely occur: nearly all such things are meticulously planned.

So the interesting question is: were any of the murdered personnel purposely sacrificed, and if so, what made them eligible to be sacrificed?


They were all circumcised ?
That's just a guess though [8|]



subrob1967 -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:30:43 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

Rob......Even you cant think this is the same as 9/11........... Oh wait, maybe you can. [8|]

Rule........Your question isnt interesting, its stupidity. No one was sacrificed.



Let's see... A thread was started stating that Bush knew in advance that an attack was imminent. Obama was told as early as September 4th that our embassies were going to be attacked on 9-11... Naw, there's no comparison to be made here, because 3000 people didn't die... Is that what you're excuse is?

Really? You see no problem with blaming Bush because of his inaction, but give Obama a pass for his inaction?



FirmhandKY -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:46:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


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ORIGINAL: Aylee


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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have any idea how many 'credible threats' the SD receives per day? And no it would not in general be in the President's daily briefing.


Of course Mr. Obama would have to attend the security breifings in the first place.

And you are implying that President Obama routinely skips his own briefings ?
Really ?
Tell you what,you made that silly claim, now I'm going to ask for proof of same or just go ahead and label this so much right wing bullshit !

Obama skips more than half of daily intelligence meetings
12:04 AM, Sep 12, 2012

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The Government Accountability Institute, a new conservative investigative research organization, examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.


Firm



DomYngBlk -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 1:58:20 PM)

Think you missed the point. He is big boy and reads his. Dubya obviously needed someone to tell him what he should know........



mnottertail -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:14:35 PM)

i would assume so that he could ignore it in person.

if I was the president and the shit was hitting the fan in yemen and libya and whatnot, I wouldnt be in the briefing either, my guys would get their postions and intelligence and whys and wherfores sorted out and some intelligence gathered and then we would act. 

Otherwise, you are reactionary and cowboying.   The Guns of August.



DomYngBlk -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:20:33 PM)

Wasn't Dubya supposed to have been a great president cause he was a great businessman too? ..................I knew I heard that line somewhere before.



DomKen -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:21:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: Aylee


quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Do you have any idea how many 'credible threats' the SD receives per day? And no it would not in general be in the President's daily briefing.


Of course Mr. Obama would have to attend the security breifings in the first place.

And you are implying that President Obama routinely skips his own briefings ?
Really ?
Tell you what,you made that silly claim, now I'm going to ask for proof of same or just go ahead and label this so much right wing bullshit !

Obama skips more than half of daily intelligence meetings
12:04 AM, Sep 12, 2012

quote:

The Government Accountability Institute, a new conservative investigative research organization, examined President Obama’s schedule from the day he took office until mid-June 2012, to see how often he attended his Presidential Daily Brief (PDB) — the meeting at which he is briefed on the most critical intelligence threats to the country. During his first 1,225 days in office, Obama attended his PDB just 536 times — or 43.8 percent of the time. During 2011 and the first half of 2012, his attendance became even less frequent — falling to just over 38 percent. By contrast, Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush almost never missed his daily intelligence meeting.


Firm

You're repeating debunked lies.

The President receives the written PDB every day. Unlike the previous occupant of the White House he can actually read for comprehension and doesn't need the PDB read and explained to him every day.



DomYngBlk -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:22:16 PM)

Yeah yeah...Knew about the private sector and how to get the economy rolling while both Gore and Kerry had never held a REAL job......Well that certainly worked out.



slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:23:23 PM)


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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Think you missed the point. He is big boy and reads his. Dubya obviously needed someone to tell him what he should know........

Having an intelligent man sitting behind that desk is throwing more than a few folks for a loop.
Guess you could call is "culture shock" [:)]



DomYngBlk -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:24:58 PM)

Now wait a minute..Didn't dubya get an MBA from Harvard Business School? Surely that proves his intelligence



slvemike4u -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 2:27:27 PM)

I've got 8 years worth of evidence to dispute that.....lol



subrob1967 -> RE: President Obama, what did you know, and when did you know it? (9/14/2012 3:29:04 PM)

FR

Ok so someone types up a PDB and delivers it to the residence... Now we have the people here claiming they KNOW the President actually picks up the paper and reads it.

Why they must have spy camera's set up in the residence. Keep ASSUMING guys, we ALL know how that turns out.



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