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DesideriScuri -> RE: Rick Santorum finally speaks truth (10/3/2012 1:52:37 PM)
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
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Truth? Not my problem, nor within my area to fix. I only mentioned that I was not able to attest to the fixing because I haven't looked. And, Google is my friend, as you should already know. But, since I haven't Googled it, what do you think that means as far as it's priority with me?
You want people to do your research... its been obvious since day one. When they wont, you accuse them of either giving false information to try and goad them into it, or you claim you really dont care.
Nothing new.
You do realize that it was you that brought up aptitude tests and my bringing up the SAT's being biased, right? I didn't ask anyone if it had been changed or hadn't been changed. You can feel like you need to correct me on shit tons of stuff, but, do us both a favor and answer the questions asked.
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While I agree that a handy person may not gravitate towards "high finance," the lure of the "big bucks" just might be enough. Isn't that why people go to college anyway; to get an education that will lead to a higher paying job? Let's not overlook that a handy person could very easily use hobbies as an outlet for that handiness while the high finance job pays the bills and affords the hobbies.
A mechanic can make.. what... 15 - 25 an hour starting out? 30K to 50K.
A nurse, the same. Two years of education for both. (Except nursing in one state)
Not bad money. Both can upgrade their skills and education while on the job... earning those smaller bucks while the high finance guys are still in school. Yeah, I can see many hands on people vying for those jobs.
And then they'll be turned against the high finance guys who make more money than they do by politicians vying for their votes. Nurses can make some serious scratch with 4-6 years of education.
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And, turning a question around still isn't an answer. But, to answer yours, the only people who merit a higher education (post-HS university/college) are the ones with the drive and ability to succeed, or the money to blow. But, we can rule out those people who have the drive, because they'll find a way if they're driven.
Having the drive doesnt always equate to being able to finance. Unfortunately, you are the only one on these boards who sees that. In the real world, its an understood problem by many.
"Where there's a will, there's a way." No clue who said it first and I don't care. It is appropriate here, though (see? I proclaimed my lack of caring as to who said it before you can tell me to google who said it, or before you google it and tell me).
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Academic performance isn't the end-all be-all. US graduation rates are rising, too. Apparently, Finland's successful school system doesn't seem to be helping the economy all that much, since the economy is simply tracking the OECD average. Sweden was doing quite well, but has started to slow. I wonder if their educational system has had a similar lull (probably not).
Considering the rest of the economies arent even doing that well, seems to me they are doing many things right.
They were, no doubt. However, you'll have to show proof that it was their educational system and not some other factor for me to sign on to their style of education.
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This chapter looks at the possible factors behind this success, which include
political consensus to educate all children together in a common school system;
an expectation that all children can achieve at high levels, regardless of family background or regional circumstance;
single-minded pursuit of teaching excellence;
collective school responsibility for learners who are struggling;
modest financial resources that are tightly focused on the classroom and a climate of trust between educators and the community.
Seems to me they are not only happy with what they are doing, but with the results of how they are doing it. Only you would see the first part as a negative. Its a common school system .
I didn't say anything negative about it? If you recall, I said that we'd have to take all the kids away from their homes and put them into government day cares so their backgrounds and upbringings don't weigh in on the education and support they get. It was you who made the claim that it was an outrageous leap on my part. But, do go on...
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